What is a globalist? The working definition thread

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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:28 pm

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If I am a random poster here, then you are quadruply so. I mean seriously, your commandeering 98 threads here as your permanent archive of copy-paste is a big reason why there are so few members left still posting. Few enough that those still posting can hardly be called random. Ass. What, you think thousands of non-posters are reading your vitally important tantra thread? You should thank me for actually engaging. How many responses have you even gotten in the last month?

This is about standing by what you post (or providing critique of it, if that was your intent). You posted the defamation. Backing it up or backing off from it is about being honorable, not "homework." (Talk about projection: Your answer is a fucking link farm I'm supposed to read, but then you suggest that being asked to justify your own freely chosen posts is "homework.") Being able to do it in your own words, at least briefly, shows you think for yourself.

As it happens, I had read the article from Anti-Fascist news, and the charge is bullshit. I just summarized the most important "charge" here, but I've decided to omit it. You don't give me homework either. You're the one copy-pasting defamation. I'm curious whether you can back it in your own words. What's the key charge against Adbusters in that article, hm? Do you seriously believe it is "anti-Semitic"? Or that it justifies a blanket defamation of Occupy? If this is homework, it's something you can do in two minutes, but I don't expect you to be that straightforward. More dissembling would be your usual thing. Prove me wrong.

And you post this crap right after an actual fascist committed mass murder in a synagogue, at a time when the right-wing hate and incitement is at unprecedented volume and actual fascists are on the rise. Let's just confuse the crap out of that with some bullshit blanket attacks on the left?

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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby Elvis » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:15 am

Jeezuz effing christ, AD, is there any aspect of the radical left and countercultural resistance that you can't predictably find a way to defame? Is there some reason you must continuously occupy one third of this board with huge doses of dressed-up neoliberal propaganda?

No reply needed. I just find it weird.
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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:06 pm

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Ain't it the truth. I don't usually respond, but this comes RIGHT AFTER an actual Nazi ideologue murders 11 Jews at a liberal-progressive synagogue in the U.S. The worst such attack ever in this country, and yet fully in line with the current rise of the undisguised fascists and right-wing extremists in the U.S., who are receiving daily incitements to violence by multiple right-wing celebrity figures like McInnes and, oh, yeah, the fucking president. The Nazi's stated motivation for his mass murder relates directly to the "caravan" propaganda being pushed by Trump, FOX and the right wing. It's not some encoded or unconscious or viral or secret anti-Semitism and racism that requires brilliant sleuths like AD to diagnose and scold us about. This is a fucking Nazi in an increasingly Nazi time. RIGHT AFTER this atrocity, which has never had even the most remote analogue from any political camp in North America OTHER than fucking right-wing racists, and which was committed not only against Jews but specifically against a liberal-progressive congregation, AD posts some paste from his usual copy-farms about how Adbusters is anti-Semitic, and thus OWS (2011) must have also been by association. And when called on it he can't even express in two lousy sentences why this defamation is supposed to be the case, although he can expend ten sentences in dissembling about why he doesn't have to answer. What the fuck are the priorities here? Real Nazis, real murder, real anti-Semitism, and this is when you still want to resume harping and hamstringing people on the left, by seeking phony, diagnosed, elusive secret tendencies that make them just like the Nazis too? I'm kind of surprised AD has missed the boat on the Corbyn defamation campaign. (Maybe he didn't, it's not like I follow all his threads.) Netanyahu and the Israeli ambassador were also RIGHT THERE after Pittsburgh, hastening to condemn leftists as anti-Semites.

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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby DrEvil » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:48 pm

Elvis » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:15 am wrote:Jeezuz effing christ, AD, is there any aspect of the radical left and countercultural resistance that you can't predictably find a way to defame? Is there some reason you must continuously occupy one third of this board with huge doses of dressed-up neoliberal propaganda?

No reply needed. I just find it weird.


Second this. Wtf, AD?! Is it so hard to string together two sentences with actual content? When you make an outrageous claim it's not everyone else's job to disprove it, it's your job to back it up, and endless copy/paste in reply to a valid question is a bullshit way of doing it.
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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:54 pm

I didn't make an outrageous claim- I posted an article that contained a very brief criticism of Adbusters. My feelings about that publication are mixed- I do think they are sometimes vexed by muddy politics but I also like some of what they do. This mix from them- with an obvious nod to the Situationists- really rocked my world:

PLAY ALL
live without dead time


http://www.ADBUSTERS.org 2002 CD "live without dead time"

1 THE PLEDGE Saul Williams / INTRO DjSpooky --2:18 2 INTERLUDE: JOURNEY INTO SOUND DjSpooky -- 1:04 3 GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT Adbusters -- 0:40 4 COMING UP AniDiFranco -- 2:24 5 MUSLIM CHANT Bhagdad Live! / BUY NOTHING DAY Adbusters -- 0:56 6 BASIC BEAT Tino / DYNAMITE FRESH Meat Beat Manifesto -- 3:44 7 THAT SUBLIMINAL KID AND THE LAST MOHICAN DJS. vs DjGoo -- 3:34 8 WHY IS THIS COMMERCIAL? Negativland -- 1:53 9 INTERLUDE DJSpooky / GIVE BLOOD (DJS.REMIX) Saul Williams -- 3:40 10 RE:VOLUTION (FEAT.G.W.BUSH) Coldcut -- 3:14 11 THE FIRST CONSPIRACY (DRUM SOLO) The (International) Noise Conspiracy / LET FREEDOM RING Martin Luther King, Jr. -- 0:54 12 RELUCTANT WARRIOR DjS. feat. Mad Professor / AMERICAN PSYCHOSIS (SYMPTOM ONE) Mista White -- 2:00 13 RIVERS OF DUB Asian Dub Foundation / AMERICAN PSYCHOSIS (SYMPTOM ONE) Mista White / ADS AND PHONE CONVERSATIONS Adbusters -- 4:31 14 DUBTOMETRY INTERLUDE DjS. feat. Mad Professor -- 0:31 15 STATE EXTENSION EBN -- 1:13 16 VAJRA KILAYA MIX Intrinsic Sky Sound System -- 1:04 17 STARBUCKS Mathew Herbert / VARIOUS EXCERPTS Mario Savio and Malcolm X -- 1:02 18 ROCK THE NATION (THE DAWNING) M. Franti and Spearhead -- 3:11 19 DEEP SPACE - 9MM El-P ??? EI-P -- 2:20 20 REVOLVERLUTION Public Enemy -- 2:04 21 SATISFIED? J-Live -- 2:30 22 FAMOUS ANIMAL Honey Barbara [+ Franquin's Marsupilami] -- 2:40 23 ASYLUM FOR DUB Mad Professor -- 2:04 24 AS YET UNTITLED Alter Ego / LACK OF IDENTITY Marshall McLuhan -- 2:50 25 LEAVING BABYLON Bad Brains -- 3:19 26 NUCLEAR WAR Sun Ra & His Arkestra -- 2:37 27 NEW WORLD ORDER Stephen Smith -- 2:18 28 END THE VIETNAM WAR (DJS.REMIX) Allen Ginsberg / DRUMS AND BREAKBEATS illyB -- 4:56 29 PINK FROSTY DEMO Fugazi -- 3:15 30 BUY NOTHING DAY IN JAPAN Adbusters -- 0:13 31 HUMAN BEINGS WANT TO BE HAPPY King Britt feat. Ursula Rucker -- 1:02


Listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir2ZGfq ... 8916047DC/
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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:58 pm

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I'm still right, you're still wrong. Imagine I posted some "brief criticism," without evidence provided, calling you anti-Semitic -- which in our culture is pretty close to total destruction of someone's reputation, and in the immediate aftermath of Pittsburgh is much worse -- and you complained, and my response was more links rather than a) backing it up in words or b) saying I hadn't noticed, or that I disagreed, or that it was a mistake, or some such.

Nevertheless, that compilation looks like it's going to make for a great distraction, I do look forward to playing it.

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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby American Dream » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:33 pm

I do have concerns about things said in Adbusters regarding Jews and/or Jewishness. You are free to differ and I am under no obligation to convince you otherwise. I don't think I could anyway, so I see no particularly compelling reason to try.

End of story.
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Re: What is a globalist? The working definition thread

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:23 pm

You have concerns but no examples?
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