"Paranoid Libertarianism" vs "Jackboot Neoliberalism"

[liminalOyster]

Wow. Just wow. Thanks for posting.

Yes, Wow, but I would imagine we have very different takes on this piece.

[seemslikeadream]

It can always be a fun day when David Icke’s name gets mentioned here.

[American Dream]

Now I'm intrigued. What's your take?

[liminalOyster]

Now I'm intrigued. What's your take?

1. Icke's raw material is quite standard to Latin American shamanic mythos. That he's tainted by a white british schoolboy's idiot anti-semitism speaks to the psychological shadow shit of his own being. But much of the basic mythos is nearly identical to someone like Michael Harner. Only by silencing the curious psychohistory of recurring lizard/reptile others throughout various cultures can reptilians become a smoking gun for anti-semitism.

2. Which is not to say one can't get lost in a quest for "hidden truths" come anti-semitic garbage.

3. There's a very important and not so well studied history of african-american conspiracy culture that I will be fucking damned if I'm going to trust Jezebel to parse and then use to discard Alice fucking Walker.

4. Proof of having gotten enmeshed in associational chains of meaning with various fascists and anti-semites is not the same thing as proof of being a fascist or anti-semite.

5. Neolib absolutism is a Manichean virus that wants to recode everything according to its logics.

[American Dream]

I understand what you're saying but of course I don't agree. I'll let it go at that.

[liminalOyster]

I understand what you're saying but of course I don't agree. I'll let it go at that.

You disagree with all five of these points?

[American Dream]

I'm busy now but I meant that I have a very different take on things.

[MacCruiskeen]

He's busy now.

[American Dream]

Seizing the moment, I would say that I'm much more focused on the deal breaker elements of the Icke work that I see. Sure, the anti-Semitism and far right ideas but also the monolithic and eternal conspiracy assumptions and many other things. I'll let it go at that, especially because I really am busy now.

[streeb]

deal breaker elements

= your special subject!

I'll let it go at that

and

I'll let it go at that

= your other special subject!

[JackRiddler]

He's busy now.

He's incapable of writing a simple argument now.

Also, you are all = Icke = Dugin = Fascist = Whatever the State Department says you are.

[liminalOyster]

Seizing the moment, I would say that I'm much more focused on the deal breaker elements of the Icke work that I see. Sure, the anti-Semitism and far right ideas but also the monolithic and eternal conspiracy assumptions and many other things. I'll let it go at that, especially because I really am busy now.

I would've thought needless to say that I'm not suggesting to make a "deal" with David Icke,

[American Dream]

I would've thought needless to say that I'm not suggesting to make a "deal" with David Icke

Right, I meant more in terms of ideological harmony. There will be no dating, much less marriage with that dude, for me.

[liminalOyster]

We seem to be having two different conversations. I have said next to nothing about Icke or his "philosophy," and certainly nothing positive.

[American Dream]

I understand what you're saying, and I'm letting it go at that.