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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:08 pm

Rubio, Pompeo, Abrams - the sheer shameless thuggishness of these people is breathtaking, yet the Democratic Party, the so-called opposition, stands solidly behind them and their ongoing fascist coup attempt.

Venezuela crisis: President Maduro's 'days numbered' - Mike Pompeo
59 minutes ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47348293


Marco Rubio Verifed Account @marcorubio 5 hours ago

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Postby Elvis » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:36 pm

I heard this NPR piece when it aired in 2017,and immediately noticed a big problem with it:

https://www.npr.org/2017/04/02/52235744 ... -in-crisis

PHILIP REEVES, BYLINE: This woman calls herself Alessandra. That's not her real name. She doesn't want her identity revealed because she doesn't want her family to know what she has to do these days to support them.

ALESSANDRA: (Through interpreter) I hope and I'm trusting God that never, ever, ever will my daughter get to know the things that I'm doing in Brazil to pay for her education.

[. . .]

(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)

REEVES: Alessandra's been working here as a prostitute for four months. She says, in Venezuela, she had a job she loved as assistant to an attorney who helps abused children and families in crisis.

Kinda pulls at your heartstrings, right?

The crash in Venezuela's currency means those are now worth less than $100 a month. She says just to pay for one semester of her daughter's college...

ALESSANDRA: (Through interpreter) I would have to work for three months continuously without buying food, without paying rent, without buying medicines or clothes.



The problem with this heart-rending, anonymous story, voiced-over in English: in Venezuela, college education is free.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:42 pm

Ah, but the kid probably goes to college in Switzerland. Or Florida.
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Postby RocketMan » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:03 am

Spain appears to draw the line at direct military intervention. That's something at least.
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Postby Grizzly » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 pm


Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza sits down with The Grayzone's Anya Parampil to discuss his secret meetings with Trump envoy Elliot Abrams, how the war in Syria reordered international relations, and Caracas' efforts to form a Non-Aligned Movement "adapted to the 21st century."

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.@AOC claims the situation VZ is not about ideology or “capitalism” or “socialism”, but about “democracy vs authoritarianism”. These are incredibly ignorant comments for a self-described “democratic-socialist” to make. She’s putty in the hands of the US national security state.
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Postby RocketMan » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:00 pm

AOC's "casual" cookout chat was painful, it hurts to admit.

The warfare state has Bernie and AOC by the throat. At least Bernie included the military-industrial complex as a "special interest" among others, pretty much at the end of his latest campaign ad.

US imperialism is the big hippo in the middle of the room like we say over here...
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Postby RocketMan » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:04 pm

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-u ... to-say-it/

The U.S.-Venezuela Aid Convoy Story Is Clearly Bogus, but No One Wants to Say It

No one actually thinks the same Donald Trump who kicked off his run for the White House by calling Mexicans rapists, and subsequently, as president, left Puerto Rico for dead after Hurricane Maria, cares at all about the Venezuelan poor. No one actually thinks the murderers row of Cold Warriors—led by two of the most extreme right-wingers in American politics, Venezuela envoy Elliott Abrams and national security adviser John Bolton—cares at all about the starving people in Venezuela or their plight. No one reading this, be they right, left, center, libertarian or communist, actually buys the prevailing narrative that the U.S. is sending “aid” to Venezuela as a humanitarian gesture.

So why is everyone pretending otherwise?
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:49 pm

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Seems the cynicism directed towards AOC was well-placed.

Nothing/no one that operates within the current system will challenge the current system.


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Roger Waters, Socialists Say No to Bernie and AOC’s Positions on Venezuela

While Senator Sanders seems to support a supposedly “democratic” kind of regime change in Venezuela, journalist Ben Norton, who has spent the past two weeks in Venezuela amid the flailing coup attempt, says it is the opposition that is un-democratic. On Twitter, Norton accused the Venezuelan opposition of dropping “all pretense of wanting democracy and demand[ing] a coup and war.”

WASHINGTON — As socialists rally in the United States over their country’s backing of a right wing coup in Venezuela, the supposedly socialist members of Congress – Senator Bernie Sanders (VT) and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) – are hitting talking points that worry critics like Roger Waters and activists in the streets alike.

The Pink Floyd bassist and composer took billionaire Sir Richard Branson to task last week as he organized a benefit concert for the Venezuelan opposition in neighboring Colombia, MintPress News reported. Now, Waters, who says that “socialism is a good thing” and in 2015 backed Sanders, is wondering if he’s “f-ing kidding” us. Sanders announced his candidacy for 2020 last week.

Waters’ expression of shock was made in reply to the Senator’s tweet on Saturday, which demanded that Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro “allow humanitarian aid into the country.” Waters pulled no punches, questioning whether Sanders is really “the perfect stooge for the one percent.”

The Venezuelan government has rejected U.S. aid as a pretext for further intervention and an affront to their border sovereignty. Elliott Abrams, who was recently named United States Special Representative for Venezuela, was previously involved in a plot to send $27 million in weapons disguised as humanitarian aid to right wing contras. Meanwhile, an airliner with links to the CIA has flown weapons into the country and the agency responsible for delivering it, USAID, has a history of torturing leftists in South America.

Poignantly, Waters warned Sanders not to “collude” with the architects of the U.S.’s coup policies: neoconservative warmongers Elliott Abrams and John Bolton, and Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL), a champion of the wealthy right wing pink wave emigre scene in Miami.

Sanders’ Foreign Policy Advisor Matt Duss took the attacks on the Maduro government further, tweeting a headline from the pages of the Daily Beast verbatim: “Socialists Should Take a Stand on Venezuela: No Trump, No Maduro, No War.”

The article, written by journalist and notorious troller of Syria anti-interventionists Charlie Davis, distanced itself from the Trump-style regime change wherein Elliott Abrams, who is associated with “death squads,” is leading the charge.

But while Davis portrays Abrams as the “bad cop,” leftwing thought leaders like himself serve as the “good cops” of empire. Yes, Trump does not “give a half a goddam about democracy,” but he is also “not necessarily wrong,” Davis argues before rambling in denunciation of Maduro’s supposed authoritarianism.

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Pretty wild that Charles Davis, a liberal-at-best from the empire itself, is deploying these commonplace & widespread memorandums to try to delegitimize & erase the leftism of actual fucking warriors who personally fought the US operations directly...

But here we are.

#HandsOffVenezuela @OLAASM

I really want to see Davis come tell guerrilla veterans in the FMLN that – because their party is coerced into cooperation memorandums with the empire to protect their people being deported by the US – that they have lost their left credentials in his Yankee estimation.

7:45 PM - Aug 4, 2018


Davis also painted Ecuador’s rightward drifting government, which has placed Julian Assange in de-facto solitary confinement and issued an arrest warrant against its socialist ex-president Rafael Correa, as a “social democracy.”

Despite all this, Duss promoted the shoutout Davis gave his boss, tweeted the passage:

"In the US, this position has been echoed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, who issued a statement stressing opposition to any foreign-imposed regime change in Venezuela—while noting Venezuelans should be provided the opportunity to change their regime on their own, if they so choose.”

While Senator Sanders seems to support a supposedly “democratic” kind of regime change in Venezuela, journalist Ben Norton, who has spent the past two weeks in Venezuela amid the flailing coup attempt, says it is the opposition that is un-democratic. On Twitter, Norton accused the Venezuelan opposition of dropping “all pretense of wanting democracy and demand[ing] a coup and war.” He told MintPress:

"The corporate media and the US government it so obediently echoes frequently claims that Venezuela is a “dictatorship,” but my past few weeks here in Caracas have shown precisely the opposite: Venezuela remains an impressively democratic country — despite non-stop foreign intervention, internal sabotage and violence from the opposition, and threats of war from the US and right-wing US-allied governments in Latin America.”

Becker made argued a similar position, telling MintPress:

"The opposition has an unelected ‘president’ who proclaimed himself such at a protest, and has now exiled himself to Colombia to beg foreign governments to invade. They pressued all opposition candidates to not run in the last elections and demanded international observers to not come and observe them. Meanwhile, the Chavista government has conducted 24 elections in the last 20 years.”

Becker further laid into what he characterized as a cynical stunt to provoke regime change:

"As both the UN and Red Cross affirmed, ‘humanitarian aid’ by definition has to be apolitical, neutral and requested by the receiving country. This wasn’t humanitarian aid — it was a stunt designed to provide the imagery for intervention. Venezuela accepted just this week ten times more actual aid from Russia, Cuba, China and the Pan American Health Organization. The Maduro government’s stance on this is completely logical: it won’t accept phony “aid” from the countries that are simultaneously stealing the government’s assets, sanctioning their industries and seizing their bank accounts — all of which makes it harder to import food and medicine. “

He added that Sanders had received backlash from fellow Democrats merely for refusing to recognize Juan Guaido as President of Venezuela.

"Sanders’ tactic for years has been to run to the right on foreign policy issues so as to protect his New Deal-style domestic program. He’s always distanced himself from actual socialist projects that have been targeted and demonized by the U.S. Empire to assure the corporate-owned media that his vision is closer to Denmark or Sweden. Now that Sanders is a main target of Trump’s anti-socialist rhetoric and that he’s a potential front-runner for the nomination, I expect we’ll see more of that from him.”


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The people of Venezuela are enduring a serious humanitarian crisis. The Maduro government must put the needs of its people first, allow humanitarian aid into the country, and refrain from violence against protesters.
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you know better than to endorse a stunt led by war criminals who have snuck weapons in aid shipments in the past. This stance will not make democrats like you more and will only lose you support from socialists



The Anti-Maduro Millennial

During an Instagram Live, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attacked the Maduro government. “What people don’t understand is that this is really kind of an issue of authoritarianism versus democracy in many different ways,” she said. “This is really an issue of a failure of democracy.”

Because Instagram Live videos are automatically deleted after 24 hours, the clip in which Cortez spoke on Venezuela was brought to light by a right wing account which attacked her for live streaming herself cooking while giving “cooking lessons, dating tips and even interior design advice.”

Cortez said she wanted to “empower and center the people of Venezuela and the will of the public.”

“What I believe in above all else is a true democracy; is democracy as a form of government; democracy in the workplace; democracy in our economy,” Cortez said. But Norton has seen just that as he has “traveled through barrios interviewing average working-class Venezuelans.” He says he has been “blown away by the democratic and revolutionary spirit that still pervades the community, despite the economic difficulties that do indeed exist — in no small part because of years of crippling US sanctions, economic warfare, and a de facto embargo, along with well-documented speculation and hoarding by capitalists inside the country.”

“The Chavista movement has encouraged democracy at many levels, from thriving communes and local councils to feminist organizations and the community-organized CLAP [Local Food Production and Provision Committees] food program,” Norton added.

“Instead of accepting all the propaganda against Venezuela,” Becker argues, “people who consider themselves democratic socialists should really study it for themselves.” He continued:

Venezuela’s socialists have held and won many elections and used the electoral process to carry out major wealth redistributions in favor of the poor and working class, with missions for housing, health care and education. But it provoked a massive backlash of course from the oligarchy, and the world’s major financial and corporate powers. The ‘billionaire class’ doesn’t just give up their power without a fight and has a lot of tools at their disposal — that’s true in Venezuela and the United States.”

The initial tweets from her colleague Ilhan Omar were far clearer, based in a principled anti-war position and even provided context about the roots of Venezuela’s economic crisis. By contrast, Ocasio-Cortes is following the same strategy as Sen. Sanders, which falsely believes you can advance a progressive agenda (and your own career) at home by saying as little as possible about foreign policy and conceding to the rhetoric of anti-communism.”

There are certain things that the U.S. ruling class can tolerate debate over in terms of domestic policy, but on the bottom line issue of the U.S. Empire, they all unite when it’s time to attack. The corporate-owned media makes sure no one gets out of line and you are cast out as a pariah. “

Importantly, Cortez also slammed Elliott Abrams from the left, saying that he “pled guilty to crimes” in relation to the Iran-Contra scandal. She added that Abrams is a “legit criminal. Plead guilty.”

While the is no question that Abrams and the other gangsters running U.S. regime change projects throughout the Cold War to today are not innocent, Cortez repeated a tired trope of criminal justice hawks: that people are “legit criminals” so long as they “plead guilty.” Studies show that 97 percent of federal defendants resolve their cases through plea bargaining.

“If anything, reporting here at the grassroots in Venezuela has further clarified to me how authoritarian my own country is: The United States, the world’s biggest incarceration nation, could stand to learn a lesson about democracy from Venezuelans,” Norton told MintPress News.
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Postby Grizzly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 am

Et tu, Bernie? Sanders shamed for joining US hawks in Venezuela regime change push

https://www.greanvillepost.com/2019/02/24/et-tu-bernie-sanders-shamed-for-joining-us-hawks-in-venezuela-regime-change-push/

Sanders—the only thing missing from this Pied Piper is the flute.
The self-described democratic socialist Senator Bernie Sanders is now getting grief from his supporters for apparently aligning himself with the Trump administration and its regime change efforts in Venezuela.

Having announced a 2020 bid for the Democratic presidential nomination this week, Sanders (I-Vermont) digressed from his twitter storm about healthcare, wage inequality and taxing the rich to endorse US “humanitarian aid” for Venezuela, which the Trump administration is using to bolster the self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaido.

The people of Venezuela are enduring a serious humanitarian crisis. The Maduro government must put the needs of its people first, allow humanitarian aid into the country, and refrain from violence against protesters,” Sanders tweeted on Saturday.


While the tweet received praise from accounts favoring regime change, and drew some mockery from conservatives, there has been a veritable avalanche of disappointment from the Vermont senator’s sympathizers – as well as journalists and celebrities opposed to the regime change operation.


Blah, blah ... Rodger Waters, blah blah...

Editor’s Note: While most reactions were, as described on this RT.com report, unfavorable to Bernie Sanders’ thinly-veiled support for the coup, there were, as usual, people who supported the coup and attacked the people berating Sanders. Don’t ask us where the hell these characters get their twisted version of history.

“Imagine being Bernie Sanders and thinking Mike Pence, John Bolton, and Elliott Abrams are innocently committed to alleviating the humanitarian plight of the Venezuelan people, and that the ‘food and medicine’ they’re sending has no ulterior motive,” wrote journalist Michael Tracey, asking Sanders “Have you lost your mind???”


Blah, blah ... Abby Martin, blah blah...

“A sad commentary on US politics that the country’s most prominent self-proclaimed socialist feels compelled to feed into an interventionist narrative crafted by the Trump administration,” commented journalist Max Blumenthal of Grayzone, currently in Venezuela covering the tensions.


The tweet was also poorly received by rank-and-file Sanders supporters, whose reactions ran the gamut from “Do better Bernie” and “This ain’t it chief” to unprintable expletives.

One podcaster even urged him to fire his foreign policy adviser, Matt Duss.
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Postby Grizzly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:38 am

Military Intervention Would Be a Disaster for Venezuela
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/military-intervention-would-be-a-disaster-for-venezuela/

Tying the delivery of aid to the opposition’s effort to overthrow Maduro was a serious mistake on Guaido’s part, and one for which the people of Venezuela will pay the price. Rubio has been angling and hoping for a confrontation that could be exploited as a pretext for U.S. intervention, and he seizing on the violence at the Venezuelan border as an excuse to begin threatening Maduro more explicitly with U.S. intervention. Today, Rubio followed up his earlier hints at military intervention with a blunt, sick invocation of the results of the 2011 intervention in Libya: Near Death picture

Rubio’s ugly tweet met with an overwhelmingly negative response, but it confirms what most critics have assumed about the administration’s Venezuela policy from the start. A thinly-veiled policy of regime change has been leading up to calls for military action, and that is what we are going to start hearing now. Rubio is a reflexive hawkish intervetionist, and he has been the driving force behind the administration’s Venezuela policy. He has extraordinary influence over what that policy will be, and now he is making a clear threat that Maduro is going to meet the same grisly fate as Gaddafi. The parallels between this policy and the Libyan intervention were already worrisome, and now they are genuinely alarming. If Rubio wanted to give Maduro an additional incentive to hang on and fight to the bitter end, recalling Gaddafi’s violent death at the hands of his domestic enemies should do the trick.

No one can honestly look at the legacy of the Libyan intervention and conclude that it would be good to repeat the same policy in Venezuela, and a war in Venezuela would likely last longer and cost a lot more than the Libyan war did. Only a fanatical ideologue who doesn’t care about the consequences of regime change would think that this is a smart comparison to make. Rubio reveals the intentions of hawkish regime changers and discredits his own policy all at once.

Needless to say, escalating Venezuela’s crisis into an armed conflict would be a disaster for the people of Venezuela and for Venezuela’s neighbors. It would very likely keep the U.S. bogged down in an unnecessary and illegal war for years to come. Alternatively, the U.S. might repeat its Libya mistake of destroying the existing regime and then leaving the country to its chaotic fate. Either way, it would make things even worse for the civilian population and destabilize the surrounding region.


These fuckers are ghouls and hungry ghosts.

"Hungry ghost" is one of the six modes of existence (see Six Realms). Hungry ghosts are pitiable creatures with huge, empty stomachs. They have pinhole mouths, and their necks are so thin they cannot swallow, so they remain hungry. Beings are reborn as hungry ghosts because of their greed, envy and jealousy. Hungry ghosts are also associated with addiction, obsession, and compulsion.

The Sanskrit word for "hungry ghost" is "preta," which means "departed one." The walking dead.

So feed them a mere grain rice and watch them choke... With the rice kernel stuck in their throats.


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Postby RocketMan » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:05 am

A salient point I think.
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Postby RocketMan » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:18 pm

Go Ilhan!
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Postby Grizzly » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:42 am

Clinton Emails Reveal Direct US Sabotage of Venezuela
https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/12104
Snakes gonna snake ...

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton led a team committed to delegitimizing the politics of the late Hugo Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution.


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Postby conniption » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:45 pm

Grizzly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:55 pm wrote:the absolute boy at the UN
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/av5aue/the_absolute_boy_at_the_un/

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watching him shit on decades of ghoulish US foreign policy and bloodthirstiness has made my goddamn week

he called out the entirety of american history from manifest destiny to iraq, absolutely incredible

/u/TheCaconym has provided timestamps:

Venezuela

Russia (absolute fire)

Bolivia

Cuba

South Africa




at around the 1h50 mark. He shows the tweet here, about 14 minutes later.



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Thanks for posting, Griz, (in the wrong thread.) Watched the DemNow video and quite a bit of the UN Security council meeting. Especially appreciated Bolivia. Thanks again. Great picture from the Onion, as well.

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Postby conniption » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:37 am

MoA

March 04, 2019

Venezuela - Random Guyaidó Returns Only To Again Be Ignored

Juan Guaidó, the random guy who claims to be 'interim president' of Venezuela, just arrived (vid) back in Caracas. He was not arrested. It seems that President Maduro's strategy is to simply ignore Guaidó and to wait until the guy campaign runs out of steam. Meanwhile U.S. media and the Trump administration are doing their best to further that...
continues... https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/03/v ... nored.html

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I am sure many readers of this column are aware that Guaidó gained prominence through his participation in student protests that involved protestors exposing their buttocks. I hope someone will appreciate this poetic take on Guaidó's career.

The JackAss of CaracAs.

The jewels of Venezuela.
The wealthy, white and young
One day festooned the capital
By baring all their bums.

And one among the many,
So marvellous of haunch
The JackAss of Caracas.
Was bum-boy par excellence.

The CIA were drooling,
NED could hardly wait
They had never seen an asshole
Quite so sure to consummate

The plans they’d always harboured
For Chavez and his train,
The JackAss of CaracAs
Would make things right again.

They whisked him off to Washington
And had no end of fun
As they trained him in the basics
Of regime change 101.


They taught him how to grovel,
Bow and scrape without a glitch.
The JackAss of CaracAs
Would be the perfect bitch.

The stakes were just enormous,
There’s gold in them there hills,
And oceans still of oil,
Just waiting to be drilled.

They stitched their plan together
And could not contain their glee
For the JackAss of CaracAs
Fit their scheming to a T.


Step one was economic;
Bring Maduro to his knees;
With sanctions, theft and sabotage
They pulled this off with ease.

They staged a lot of protests,
Violent as all get out,
Where the JackAss of CaracAs
Would scream and stomp and pout.

Step two: the Constitution.
The part they liked the most
Was the part about the President
Abandoning his post.

They knew it had no bearing
As Maduro took his place
But the JackAss of CaracAs,
With such a pretty face,


Claimed that he had been elected,
And Maduro was a fraud,
And that he enjoyed the backing
Of the Lima Group and God.

Not to mention Trump and Pence –
the latter phoned him, sure as sin –
And the JackAss of CaracAs,
Claimed the President was him.

So the folks of Venezuela,
So deprived in many ways,
Have a Presidential surplus
In these dark and stormy days.

One gained office through election,
Not through trickery and stealth;
But the JackAss of CaracAs
Was elected by himself.


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