Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:12 pm wrote:Please don't kill yourself over Pete -- or worse still, any of us.
Sorry I shouldn’t have said that
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by seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:13 pm
Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:12 pm wrote:Please don't kill yourself over Pete -- or worse still, any of us.
by PufPuf93 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:32 pm
seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:13 pm wrote:Wombaticus Rex » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:12 pm wrote:Please don't kill yourself over Pete -- or worse still, any of us.
Sorry I shouldn’t have said that
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by RocketMan » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:01 am
If you know only one thing about Pete Buttigieg, it’s that he’s The Small-Town Mayor Who Is Making A Splash. If you know half a dozen things about Pete Buttigieg, it’s that he’s also young, gay, a Rhodes Scholar, an Arabic-speaking polyglot, and an Afghanistan veteran. If you know anything more than that about Pete Buttigieg, you probably live in South Bend, Indiana. This is a little strange: These are all facts about him, but they don’t tell us much about what he believes or what he advocates. The nationwide attention to Buttigieg seems more to be due to “the fact that he is a highly-credentialed Rust Belt mayor” rather than “what he has actually said and done.” He’s a gay millennial from Indiana, yes. But should he be President of the United States?
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But it’s not fair to fully judge a person by a single comment in an interview. Pete Buttigieg has just published a campaign book, Shortest Way Home: One Mayor’s Challenge and a Model for America’s Future, that gives a much fuller insight into the way he thinks about himself, his ideals, and his plans. It has been called the “best political autobiography since Barack Obama,” revealing Buttigieg as a “president in waiting.” Indeed, I recommend that anyone considering supporting Buttigieg read it from from cover to cover. It is very personal, very well-written, and lays out a narrative that makes Buttigieg seem a natural and qualified candidate for the presidency.
It also provides irrefutable evidence that no serious progressive should want Pete Buttigieg anywhere near national public office.
by Grizzly » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:07 am
The nationwide attention to Buttigieg
They play you all like a fiddle. And you beg for it.
by Elvis » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:48 pm
by seemslikeadream » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:51 pm
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by seemslikeadream » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:34 pm
Pete Buttigieg: Democracy is more important than capitalism
2020 Democratic candidate Pete Buttigieg identified as a capitalist on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday, but noted that he believes democracy is "more important" than capitalism.
"It's got to be democratic capitalism. And that part's really important, and it's slipping away from us ... When you have the kind of regulatory capture where powerful corporations are able to arrange the rules for their benefit, that's not real capitalism. If you want to see what happens when you have capitalism without democracy, you can see it very clearly in Russia. It turns into crony capitalism, and that turns into oligarchy."
Why you'll hear about this again: Gen Z, the latest crop of voters, preferred "socialism" to "capitalism" in an Axios poll this year. 61% of Americans aged between 18 and 24 have a positive reaction to the word "socialism" — just beating out "capitalism" at 58%.
https://www.axios.com/pete-buttigieg-20 ... 9816e.html
Pence Accuses (The Also Christian) Buttigieg Of Attacking His ‘Christian Faith’
Kate Riga
AP
Vice President Mike Pence accused South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is a devout Christian, of attacking his “Christian faith” in the most recent volley between the two Hoosiers over Buttigieg’s sexual orientation and Pence’s anti-LGBTQ beliefs.
“I hope that Pete will offer more to the American people than attacks on my Christian faith or attacks on the President as he seeks the highest office in the land,” Pence told CNN. “He’d do well to reflect on the importance of respecting the freedom of religion of every American.”
Buttigieg responded during an appearance on “Ellen.”
“I’m not critical of his faith; I’m critical of bad policies,” he said. “I don’t have a problem with religion — I’m religious too. I have a problem with religion being used as a justification to harm people and especially in the LGBTQ community.”
by liminalOyster » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:38 pm
by seemslikeadream » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Pete Buttigieg has gone from totally unknown to polling third in Iowa and New Hampshire
He’s still behind Biden and Sanders, but it’s a significant increase.
Andrew ProkopApr 12, 2019, 12:10pm EDT
Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) remain at the top of the latest early state primary polls, but lately, they’ve been accompanied by a new candidate in the third-place spot: Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana.
The two most recent Iowa polls and the most recent New Hampshire poll all show Buttigieg in third place — still several points behind Biden and Sanders, but a point or two ahead of any other Democratic contender.
It’s not that Buttigieg has totally separated himself from the rest of the pack, since Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Kamala Harris (D-CA) are just a couple points behind him in all of these polls. But it’s worth noting when a candidate suddenly goes from regularly polling at zero to 1 percent to placing third in a very large field.
Those three recent polls are:
Saint Anselm College released a poll of the New Hampshire primary showing Biden with 23 percent, Sanders 16 percent, Buttigieg 11 percent, Elizabeth Warren 9 percent, and Kamala Harris at 7 percent.
Monmouth released a poll of Iowa showing Biden in the lead with 27 percent, Sanders at 16 percent, Buttigieg with 9 percent, and Warren and Harris with 7 percent each.
The most recent Iowa poll before that, from Emerson last month, showed Biden with 25 percent, Sanders 24 percent, Buttigieg 11 percent, Harris 10 percent, and Warren 9 percent.
Whether Buttigieg will manage to retain this position or grow his support further is of course unclear at this point, but we now have three polls suggesting he’s struck a chord with some Democratic voters in Iowa and New Hampshire in a way that most of the many other Democratic candidates who have jumped into the race have not.
In fundraising too, Buttigieg has done surprisingly well. His campaign said he raised $7 million in the first quarter of this year, the fourth-best in the field (behind Sanders, Harris, and Beto O’Rourke — Biden hasn’t begun fundraising yet). This was spurred, Buttigieg recently told Vox’s Ezra Klein, by his appearance at a CNN town hall on March 10.
Lots of people still have no idea who Pete Buttigieg is
Just one month ago, Buttigieg was a complete unknown. Many pollsters hadn’t even bothered to include him as an option in polls. But when they did, the South Bend mayor never topped 1 percent in any national, Iowa, or New Hampshire poll tracked by RealClearPolitics.
Indeed, Buttigieg is still relatively little known. Monmouth’s new poll found that 46 percent of Iowa Democratic voters didn’t yet have an opinion (either favorable or unfavorable) about Buttigieg. In comparison, almost every Democratic voter has an opinion on Biden, Sanders, and Warren, while 70 percent or more have an opinion of Harris, O’Rourke, and Booker.
These are the best-known contenders — click here to see the favorability ratings for the full field.
Monmouth
You could argue that this is a promising sign for Buttigieg, since many Democrats seem to have barely heard of him at this point, but a significant number who have heard of him in these early states say they’ll vote for him. Alternatively, one could argue that he’s a new face and that his appeal will wear off as he faces attacks and criticism.
Early states matter
In national polls, Buttigieg still hasn’t gotten as much of a bump. He’s no longer down at 1 percent, but Harris, Warren, O’Rourke, and Cory Booker have tended to still be ahead of him in recent polls.
While national Democratic primary polls are most common and tend to get the most attention, there is of course no “national Democratic primary” election day. Instead, the first contests will be in Iowa (currently scheduled for February 3, 2020) and New Hampshire (currently scheduled for February 11, 2020).
These contests tend to drive out poorly performing contenders and win increased attention and credibility for those who do well. For instance, both Barack Obama and John McCain spent all of 2007 trailing in national polls, but Obama’s Iowa win and McCain’s New Hampshire win in January 2008 shook up their respective races, and each eventually became the nominee. So the dynamics in these early states are worth watching closely.
In any case, it’s still incredibly early, with those first 2020 contests just under 10 months away. There haven’t yet been any debates, the race hasn’t gotten really nasty, and the poll leader Joe Biden hasn’t even officially begun his campaign. But Buttigieg has clearly had the best first quarter of any lesser-known candidate.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... imary-2020
by stickdog99 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:13 pm
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Rising star? 7 hurdles facing Democrat Pete Buttigieg's 2020 presidential campaign
Maureen GroppeUpdated 8:14 a.m. ET April 14, 2019
Pete Buttigieg, a two-term mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is now running for president at the age of 37. Here's what we know about the man and his campaign. Dwight Adams, dwight.adams@indystar.com
WASHINGTON – When Pete Buttigieg took initial steps toward running for president earlier this year, he acknowledged he was a long-shot.
“At no time in the last 100 years would a 37-year-old Midwestern mayor be even taken slightly seriously in this conversation," he said in February, during a discussion of his best-selling memoir. "We’re living in a moment that is calling for newcomers, and it’s calling for underdogs."
Now, as Buttigieg officially kicks of his campaign Sunday, he has gone from largely unknown to a media darling who is seen as a serious contender in the crowded Democratic field to take on President Donald Trump in 2020.
The South Bend mayor has outraised some of his more established rivals. And in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, he has landed in the top tier of polls among the Democratic White House hopefuls.
Buttigieg recently told The Atlantic that he expected at this stage to still be proving he belonged in the race.
"Instead, it’s a phase where we need to consolidate our support," he said.
Still, Buttigieg must show he has staying power if he wants to be the first person to go directly from City Hall to the White House. He would also be the youngest person to take the oath of office and the first openly-gay president.
Here’s a look at the main challenges he faces:
South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg flashes a thumbs-up as he prepares to depart after speaking at a meet and greet event at MadHouse Coffee on Monday, April 8, 2019, in Las Vegas. (Photo: Bizuayehu Tesfaye, AP)
Young, new to national stage
At 37, Buttigieg is a little more than half the age of Trump. Interviewers have asked why he's in such a hurry to go for the top job.
Rather than viewing his youth as a liability, Buttigieg has cast his millennial status as an asset.
“When you run for office at my age, to some extent your face is your message. And a big part of our message is going to be about generational change,” he said in a CNN interview in February.
Three of the last four presidents were born within a few weeks of each other in the summer of 1946, he likes to point out. When he’s the same age as Trump is now, it will be 2054. Buttigieg says that gives him more of a sense of urgency about dealing with issues like climate change “because they’re not somebody else’s problem. They’re personal.”
Buttigieg says his age cohorts experienced school shootings as the norm, provided a lot of troops for the post-9/11 conflicts and risk being the first generation to be worse off economically than their parents “if nothing is done to change the trajectory of this economy.”
“No one has more at stake right now than someone coming up,” he said on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. “Why not someone who views this as a personal issue?”
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg speaks to family and friends Thursday, September 25, 2014, at Concourse A at South Bend International Airport in South Bend after returning from a seven-month tour serving in the U.S. Navy in Afghanistan. SBT Photo/GREG SWIERCZ
South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg speaks to family and friends Thursday, September 25, 2014, at Concourse A at South Bend International Airport in South Bend after returning from a seven-month tour serving in the U.S. Navy in Afghanistan. SBT Photo/GREG SWIERCZ (Photo: Greg Swiercz, South Bend Tribune)
Buttigieg’s retort to the question of why the mayor of a mid-sized city is ready to be president is also a dig at the current White House occupant.
Buttigieg likes to say that he has more years of experience in government than Trump, more years of executive experience than Vice President Mike Pence and more military experience than the two put together. (Buttigieg, a member of the Naval Reserve, was deployed to Afghanistan in 2014.)
He also casts himself as a Washington D.C. outsider, saying he is not someone who has spent years "marinating" in the culture of the nation's capital. “I actually think we’d be better off if Washington started looking more like our best-run cities and towns and not the other way around,” Buttigieg says.
During nearly eight years as mayor, Buttigieg says, he’s lived the “reality-based world” of local government where he has handled everything from infrastructure and economic development programs to floods and a racially-sensitive officer-involved shooting.
“I’d be run out of town on a rail if I couldn’t run a government,” he told CNBC’s John Harwood.
And, as mayor of a blue-collar town in the industrial Midwest that once relied heavily on the auto industry, Buttigieg argues he understands those who feel left behind by economic changes and can offer more than false promises of returning to the past.
The South Bend River Lights are seen along the St. Joseph River in downtown South Bend, Ind. on Tuesday, March 12, 2019. The lights are part of a $25 million project led by Mayor Pete Buttigieg to improve infrastructure downtown and make it more vibrant and inviting to visitors and residents.
The South Bend River Lights are seen along the St. Joseph River in downtown South Bend, Ind. on Tuesday, March 12, 2019. The lights are part of a $25 million project led by Mayor Pete Buttigieg to improve infrastructure downtown and make it more vibrant and inviting to visitors and residents. (Photo: Jenna Watson/IndyStar)
South Bend success: Real or hype?
The mayor’s main record of accomplishment is what he’s done to turn around his home town. He regularly says that South Bend was on Newsweek’s list of dying cities the year he ran for mayor. Today, the unemployment rate is half what it was and the population is slowly rising after decades of decline.
"I hope the South Bend model is one that can help demonstrate on a much larger scale, but with very similar pressures, how it can be done through good government, tough choices and the right kind of leadership," he told reporters after delivering his final State of the City address in March.
But South Bend’s poverty rate is still more than 25%. The violent crime rate in 2016 was more than double the state and national rates. And the 3.7% unemployment rate is slightly higher than the state’s 3.2% rate.
Buttigieg has responded that while there are still problems, the city has improved under his watch.
“We’ve been able to change the trajectory of the city,” he told NBC’s Meet the Press.
South Bend record: Pete Buttigieg says he’s mayor of a turnaround city. Here’s how that claim stands up.
The Reverend Al Sharpton (L) asks a question of Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg during a gathering of the National Action Network in New York on April 4, 2019.
The Reverend Al Sharpton (L) asks a question of Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg during a gathering of the National Action Network in New York on April 4, 2019. (Photo: DON EMMERT, AFP/Getty Images)
Tensions with black community
Black voters make up about one-fifth of the Democratic electorate and the party’s nominee will need strong African-American support to beat Trump.
Buttigieg has faced criticism from activists from South Bend’s predominately minority communities that his administration’s redevelopment programs are leading to gentrification and that the city has been too aggressive in fining property owners over code enforcement.
The bigger issue he faced with the approximately one-quarter of the city that is black was his demotion of South Bend’s first African American police chief after the chief was accused of having illegally recorded his officers’ conversations without their consent. The tapes were rumored to include the officers using racist language to describe the chief.
The controversy became the city's costliest court battle ever, and Buttigieg has said it affected his relationship with the black community for years.
He has also had to address his comment in a 2015 speech that “all lives matter,” telling reporters recently that he had not been aware at the time that the phrase was coming to be viewed as a counter-slogan to the Black Lives Matter movement.
Speaking this month at the National Action Network, the civil rights organization founded by the Rev. Al Sharpton, Buttigieg also said he would support legislation to study the issue of reparations for descendants of slaves.
“I believe an agenda for black Americans needs to include five things that all of us care about,” he said. “Homeownership, entrepreneurship, education, health and justice.”
Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, talks with reporters after addressing the National Action Network's annual national convention in New York City on April 4, 2019.
Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, talks with reporters after addressing the National Action Network's annual national convention in New York City on April 4, 2019. (Photo: JUSTIN LANE, EPA-EFE)
Lack of policy specifics
In contrast with Elizabeth Warren who has offered a series of detailed policy proposals, Buttigieg talks of broad themes.
He told VICE News that it’s “a little bit dishonest to think you have it all figured out on Day One.”
“Part of where the left and the center-left have gone wrong is that we’ve been so policy-led that we haven’t been as philosophical,” he said. “Right now, I think we need to articulate the values, lay out our philosophical commitments and then develop policies off of that. And I’m working very hard not to put the cart before the horse.”
He’s said the top values Democrats should preach fit on a bumper sticker: freedom, democracy, security.
In particular, he has argued that Democrats should reclaim the word “freedom” and accuses Republicans of emphasizing “freedom from” over "freedom to." Democrats, he said, should talk about the freedom to start a small business without worrying about losing health care, to sue a credit card company that has ripped you off, and the freedom to marry the person you love.
Buttigieg has also promised to pursue changes to the political system, such as scrapping the electoral college, and said they must come first before tackling such issues as climate change, health care, the minimum wage and other problems.
“None of our ability to deal with any of those issues is going to get any better until we fix our democracy,” he said in an MSNBC interview in March.
Pete Buttigieg speaks at the Greenville County Democrats Monthly Breakfast held at Upstate Circle of Friends Saturday, Mar. 23, 2019.
Pete Buttigieg speaks at the Greenville County Democrats Monthly Breakfast held at Upstate Circle of Friends Saturday, Mar. 23, 2019. (Photo: SABRINA SCHAEFFER/Staff)
Mixed electoral record
Buttigieg’s record of winning elections is mixed. When he became South Bend’s mayor at 29, he was the youngest leader of a city of 100,000 or more. He won a second term in the heavily-Democratic city with 80 percent of the vote.
But before he ran for mayor in 2011, he got clobbered in a 2010 race against Indiana’s Republican state treasurer. If he couldn’t get more than 36% of the vote in a red state, does that undercut his argument that he knows how to talk to Trump voters?
Buttigieg says that the down-ballot race would have been an uphill battle for any unknown Democrat even before a backlash to President Barack Obama and the rise of the Tea Party made it a banner GOP year. He has also said the race taught him the fundamentals of campaigning – fundraising, putting a message together and selling yourself one-on-one to voters.
In 2017, Buttigieg was a late entrant to the contest to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Although he won the most endorsements of past DNC chairs, he withdrew before the vote when it was clear he was not going to beat Tom Perez for the job. Buttigieg wrote in his memoir that the support he received for his message “wasn’t enough to override years-long friendships, institutional commitments, favors called in, and countless other reasons to support one of the more recognizable and established candidates.”
South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg poses for photos with Erica Woolley of Nevada after Buttigieg spoke at a meet-and-greet at Madhouse Coffee on April 8, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg poses for photos with Erica Woolley of Nevada after Buttigieg spoke at a meet-and-greet at Madhouse Coffee on April 8, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo: Ethan Miller, Getty Images)
Running as a white male
The amount of media attention that Buttigieg has gotten has prompted grumblings that he and other men running for the Democratic nomination are being treated more favorably. And there’s a concern that the increasingly diverse party should nominate a woman or someone of color.
Buttigieg has said he agrees that there are advantages in society and politics to being male. But, he told Vox’s Zack Beauchamp, that if anyone thinks he’s had any easy time, “I would invite them to join the military and enter Indiana politics in 2010 as a gay person.”
"See how easy they find it,” he said.
If he wins the nomination, Buttigieg said he would consider choosing a woman as his running mate.
“I think it would presumptuous now for me to rule anybody in and out since I haven’t you know, got the nomination,” he recently said on The Ellen DeGeneres Show. “But I will say that gender balance and diversity in general is going to be extremely important and that starts with the ticket.”
Druet Cameron Klugh, center, has her photo taken by Chasten Buttigieg, left, with his husband Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate March 4, 2019, at the Public Library in downtown Iowa City, Iowa.
Druet Cameron Klugh, center, has her photo taken by Chasten Buttigieg, left, with his husband Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate March 4, 2019, at the Public Library in downtown Iowa City, Iowa. (Photo: Joseph Cress/Iowa City Press-Cit)
Can an openly gay man win?
Democrats are putting a priority on picking the candidate they think can best beat Trump. In a recent Monmouth University poll, for example, registered Democratic voters were asked if they would prefer a candidate they agree with on most issues or one who would be stronger against Trump. Nearly two-thirds preferred the latter.
Some Democrats may be wary of nominating Buttigieg if they fear the country isn’t ready to elect an openly gay man.
In response, Buttigieg told USA TODAY that when his party has focused on who is viewed as having the best chance of winning, rather than “someone we believed in, we wound up generating somebody who was less electable.”
“Next time a reporter asks me if America is ready for a gay president, I’m going to tell the truth,” Buttigieg said this month in a speech to a group that supports LGBTQ candidates. “I trust my fellow Americans. But at the end of the day, there is exactly one way to find out for sure.”
Contributing: Chris Sikich, USA TODAY Network.
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South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg speaks to members of the media after his final State of the City address in South Bend, Ind. on Tuesday, March 12, 2019. After serving 8 years as mayor of South Bend, Buttigieg, 37, announced that he intends to run for election in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 440568002/
JUST IN: Austin’s mayor to endorse Buttigieg in presidential campaign launch
Mayor Pete Buttigieg, of South Bend, Indiana, is expected to make his Democratic run for president official during a rally on Sunday in his hometown. [CHARLES KRUPA/ASSOCIATED PRESS]
By Luz Moreno-Lozano
Posted at 1:14 PM
Updated at 2:45 PM
Austin Mayor Steve Adler will be endorsing and introducing his municipal counterpart in South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who is officially launching his presidential campaign on Sunday.
Buttigieg, 37, is vying to become the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee and has seen his popularity rise in recent polls taken in the early primary states of Iowa and New Hampshire. He also has raised more than $7 million in campaign funds for the first quarter of 2019.
Two of Adler’s fellow Texans, former U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke of El Paso and former San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, have also joined the Democratic race for the White House.
https://www.statesman.com/news/20190414 ... ign-launch
by stickdog99 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:13 pm
RocketMan » 14 Apr 2019 07:55 wrote:Why is it so hard to support Bernie Sanders. Jesus Christ, what it so complicated about this.
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