TRUMP wants to buy Greenland

[82_28]

Bro, have you kept count of the countless distractions since the "Mueller Report" came out? Way in the rear view mirror. I sure have not been able to. And see that's the thing, I could fully tune out and not "pay attention" and within a month's time you're going to have to catch up. I feel it is best to just watch it unfold as it happens. Is it entertainment? I don't know. I'm not entertained but I am trained to it. However, I go into everything as a wide eyed skeptic. It really makes me question all assumptions I had about society through life.

[Grizzly]

I get it, it's not you (personally, nor slad for what that's worth...) I just can't or maybe wont understand how you guys think a different cheek of the same ass, is going to bring this host around to better serve it's inhabitants instead of itself. It's never going to happen. Never.

At least it used to be carrots and sticks, now it's only sticks. As it use to be bread & circuses now it's only circuses.

The Bin Laden at sea was my personal Waterloo...no pun intended.

[Karmamatterz]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/16/alarm-trump-requests-permanent-reauthorization-nsa-mass-spying-program-exposed
Alarm as Trump Requests Permanent Reauthorization of NSA Mass Spying Program Exposed by Snowden

"The White House is calling for reauthorization of a program that security agencies have used to spy on innocent people, violate their privacy, and chill free speech."
by
Jake Johnson, staff writer



But you know, Greenland and shit... Some peeps especially here. Should have seen through this 'three-card Monty', distraction.... BUT, BUT...MUY GREENLAND.

Great example, thanks Grizzly.

Presidents and other have for years used distraction as a means of keeping the media focused on outrageously dumb things while the federal government goes off and does something like spy on American citizens. It's standard operating procedure to use these tactics. Why people are shocked, or in disbelief, especially on here is what is more interesting than the idea of buying Greenland. Imagine the thousands and thousands of hours the media has spent "reporting" and broadcasting garbage content about outrageous crap Trump pukes/tweets etc...when they could be writing about Yemen, surveillance of Americans, killing of innocents via drones or other high tech, how drugs and other contraband (including weapons) are move across U.S. borders etc...the list could be large.

Just because a president or any elected official utters something doesn't necessarily make it worthy of reporting on. I know I know, that is a pretty wacky and crazy thing for me to believe in.

[Karmamatterz]

Almost forgot this from Iam, who I often disagree with but I think is a decent person.

That's one of the most offensive writings I've read on RI. I'll explain why:

Did you miss the thread from a few weeks ago when one RI poster "joked" about lynching people and a mod backed him in a rather non highlighted in green fashion? You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but I think my comment was pretty vanilla compared to some who think lynchings are okay.

Trump is the president, you got that right. I didn't vote for him and think he is a buffoon. I also think there is a chance he might be more clever than he is given credit for. Being clever isn't necessarily something a person should be respected for or applauded.

[DrEvil]

Trump's desire to buy Greenland is just another part of his ongoing hostility to China. Greenland has enormous rare earth element deposits, and China currently has a near monopoly on those. Trump doesn't give a shit about Greenland, he gives a shit about all the money he can extract from it, and not being dependent on China.

[JackRiddler]

EVERYTHING can be viewed as a distraction.

If so, this one carries the truth of what the present regime embodies.

Regardless, the media ecology is oversaturated with industrially produced distraction of a thousand kinds, starting with what it calls weather, sports and entertainment news. These are the majority of what is consumed daily by the majority, before we even get to the ostensibly political-economic news.

The state executive tends to be the leading producer within the part of the daily distraction ecology that is supposedly political. Most of the individual items are just general noise or feints, and not specific to given missions of distracting from something else. Very few are specific to given subjects that must be distracted from using a special distraction invented just for that purpose. Usually there is no need, since Everything is Kardashian.

Claiming that some story is a specific "distraction" from another story you think it is specifically intended to distract from eventually becomes pointless if you are claiming it on a daily basis, and pedantic if you're always suggesting we fell for it merely by mentioning a news story of interest, like this.

I think the Greenland musings are worth a short thread. You can look back on posts I've made over the years claiming that the eventual US imperialist endgame will not be the feverish vision of a final fight with China but a more straightforward takeover of Canada for the water and the new post-Arctic coastlines with their development promise. (This is also the subject of the Canadian film H2O.) No surprise that Trump-beast smells something like that too. Of course a mentality like this is the same one amping up the surveillance and control machinery.

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[Iamwhomiam]

Almost forgot this from Iam, who I often disagree with but I think is a decent person.

That's one of the most offensive writings I've read on RI. I'll explain why:

Did you miss the thread from a few weeks ago when one RI poster "joked" about lynching people and a mod backed him in a rather non highlighted in green fashion? You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but I think my comment was pretty vanilla compared to some who think lynchings are okay.

Trump is the president, you got that right. I didn't vote for him and think he is a buffoon. I also think there is a chance he might be more clever than he is given credit for. Being clever isn't necessarily something a person should be respected for or applauded.

I did not know you often disagreed with me, Karma. I am a decent person. Thank you. I have that on good authority, too. Just this past Saturday evening a fine young man of 9 told me he knew I was a good and kind man. Sr. Helen Prejean and David Kaczynski have also told me I was a good man. People who help other people are often thought of as decent people. I try to keep my indecency to myself, mostly.

I don't believe in using green ink for sarcasm. I never have and never will.

I don't mind answering your questions, Karma, but you should be aware one of my chief gripes is when folks pass on answering questions directly asked them, as you did. I'll answer you momentarily, but I'd like to ask you to answer the questions I've asked you, rather than diverting the subject to another thread. To refresh your memory:

You (Karma) wrote,"The whole board is a big complaint. There are pockets of really awesome discussions that aren't complaints, but as a whole its a giant bitchfest."

Do you really feel offering your snide criticisms are somehow "useful" to any discussion taking place now on RI? Why have you so unnecessarily added to that of which you complain?

Now to answer your questions:

Did you miss the thread from a few weeks ago when one RI poster "joked" about lynching people and a mod backed him in a rather non highlighted in green fashion? You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, but I think my comment was pretty vanilla compared to some who think lynchings are okay.

I was just about to look for that thread: would you mind providing me a link to it? Nevermind. I located it, Is the Melting of the Arctic a "Current Event" and the one in which you took issue with Dr. Evil's comment. The Force of Modifying Behavior.

No, I did not miss the comment when it was rendered. In fact, it was your complaining about it in another thread, along with the chorus, that prompted my question asked to you once again above.

No one here believes lynching is ok, at least no one has admitted to having such urges., though I suspect more have who have passed through sometime in the past. It's questionable as to whether any active members do, though among those I've suspected of harboring such views, Dr. Evil is not one who does.

Honestly, more than a few of us here have decades-long experience with Trump. He is a buffoon. That you are right about. There is no such thing as a clever buffoon. And unlike most buffoons, he's not funny at all. Never was funny and he'll never be anything more than an National Embarrassment.

You should re-read all of your comments in this thread.

This should serve to explain for you how you attempted to divert my attention away from my question's focus on your behavior to focus instead upon Dr. Evil's behavior, while completely disregarding the fact that you had been asked to answer for your own behavior. It is something seen often in Gun Control discussions, "what about alcohol and all the kids getting killed by cars and drugs" and entirely irrelevant to any discussion dealing with gun control; divert and distract - nothing to see here, move along - Not me! It's him, I tell you!

I'll have more for you in the appropriate thread tomorrow. Until then, may the force be with you.

[82_28]

What a jackwagon.

[Grizzly]

^^^ Now, that shit, is comedy, GOLD. ...lol

[Elvis]

Holy fuck...he was serious!


This is some kind of shark jump I can't quite come to terms with. Will Greenland be 'ground zero' for WWIII? That movie is totally playing in my head.

[seemslikeadream]

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[JackRiddler]

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Of course he's serious. If you had any doubts, you are still in a kind of bargaining phase regarding the 2016 election results. This is what it is. It is what he does.

Yesterday I heard someone say it was like a parody of 19th century imperialism.

False. It is 19th century imperialism. No different from.

The same imperialism that thought it was okay to "purchase" Louisiana and Alaska from their respective prior imperial claimaints without consulting anyone actually living in either territory. The same imperialism that continues today, and which has tended to favor a broad variety of indirect forms of controlling or gaining the profit and wealth derived from given territories and resources, but that can still make use of aggressive sovereignty claims (and "shoulds," as in this case) and landgrabs as backbone practices. How different is it from the dynastic land swaps and forced annexations through marriage conducted in Europe up to the 15th and 16th centuries? The classes and institutions doing this shit are no longer officially hereditary nobility but are now called owners, corporations, nation-states, and "international communities" or alliances.

Also, Trump is "serious" on that other plane, that of the Spectacle-enhanced reality he shares with the great yahoo audience.

SPACE FORCE! GREENLAND!

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[Karmamatterz]

You should re-read all of your comments in this thread.

I will and will come back to answer you in a more thoughtful way. Work is occupying much of my time right now.

[seemslikeadream]

for anyone that is wondering why

Similarly, Denmark has halted construction through its waters because of environmental concerns. But Gazprom is undaunted and insists the line can be re-routed if necessary and will be completed by early next year.

Time Is Running Out to Kill Putin’s Pet Project
Diane Francis
August 8, 2019


The logo of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project is seen on a pipe cap near the town of Kingisepp, Leningrad region, Russia June 5, 2019. REUTERS/Anton Vaganov/File Photo
Russia’s $12 billion Nord Stream 2 is not a natural gas pipeline. It’s a weapon, in the form of an underwater pipeline, that will give President Vladimir Putin the power to plunge the Soviet Union’s former satellites and republics in Europe into darkness or recession.

It must be stopped.

The pipeline is an all-water route linking Vyborg, Russia to Lubmin, Germany, and will bypass Ukraine’s pipeline and strand Poland, the Baltics, and others. Germany supports the line and would become the hub and distributor throughout the region for Gazprom, Russia’s giant gas corporation.

The project serves another strategic purpose for Putin. It has divided European Union members as well as caused concern within the trans-Atlantic alliance. Last month, the House and Senate Foreign Relations Committees overwhelmingly passed the “Protecting Europe’s Energy Security Act” which would impose targeted sanctions on the two companies—Swiss and Italian—whose vessels have deep sea pipe-laying technologies and are completing the pipeline.

"Nord Stream 2 poses a grave threat to the national security of the United States and our European allies," co-sponsor Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said. "The act would counter Russia's expansionism by targeting the vessels involved in the pipeline's construction.”

His co-sponsor, Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) echoed his concerns. "The Nord Stream 2 project is another means by which Russia can spread its malign influence by exploiting Europe's energy dependence—a tactic that the Kremlin has a history of deploying. This narrowly tailored bill is the Senate's response to those with legitimate concerns in Europe, including many in Germany, who have been ignored.”

Indeed the pipeline represents an existential threat to Europe. Currently, Russia supplies one-third of Europe’s natural gas and delivers it through three pipelines, one through Belarus and Poland, another through Ukraine and Slovakia, and Nord Stream 1. Nord Stream 2, will replace the first two, creating a dangerous, and vulnerable, infrastructure dependency. And attempts by Poland and others to halt its construction have failed.

In December, the European Parliament voted 433 to 105 in favor of canceling Nord Stream 2, to no avail.

Then, in April, member states adopted an amendment to a gas directive that would force Gazprom to divest the pipeline to independent operators, and guarantee transparency and non-discriminatory pricing. But Gazprom said it won’t comply.

Similarly, Denmark has halted construction through its waters because of environmental concerns. But Gazprom is undaunted and insists the line can be re-routed if necessary and will be completed by early next year.

Most worrisome, however, is that the Kremlin refuses to provide iron-clad guarantees, as Germany’s Angela Merkel has recommended, that Ukraine’s pipeline not be completely bypassed. The implications for Ukraine are dire, not merely because it will lose $3 billion a year in transit fees (the amount it spends on defense against Russia), but because Russia will be able to cut off supplies to the country and pave the way for more control or its re-conquest. “Once Nord Stream 2 is built, Putin can do with Ukraine whatever he wants, and then we have potentially his army on the eastern border of the EU,” Poland’s Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki warned two years ago.

“The European Union should never have allowed it to proceed as far as it has,” said Atlantic Council Eurasia Center Director John Herbst.

For years, the European Union has been unable to repel Russia’s latest incursion or even to mitigate its potential hazards. Gazprom, handmaiden to Putin, has flouted laws, unleashed a disinformation campaign, sued opponents, and dispersed unseemly inducements to European officials and influencers.

Frankly, Russia’s disregard for European votes, laws, and court rulings against the pipeline should be reason enough to ban the project.

“The essential fact of the matter is that time’s running out,” said Daniel Vajdich, whose firm Yorktown Solutions advises Ukraine’s energy conglomerate Naftogaz. “The Russians engaged in a propaganda campaign to depict the pipeline as a done deal to discourage Congress and the administration from taking action. That’s not the case.”

The US Congress and President Donald Trump must pass this sanctions act to help put pressure on behalf of EU countries, Ukraine, and German pipeline opponents.

“There’s large majority sentiment in both houses for this,” said Atlantic Council’s Herbst. [Congress] “should not complicate this act with other sanctions, but simply keep it narrow, clean, and keep it about Nord Stream 2 only. I’m optimistic that it will pass this fall.”
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u ... et-project

[8bitagent]

Holy fuck...he was serious!


This is some kind of shark jump I can't quite come to terms with. Will Greenland be 'ground zero' for WWIII? That movie is totally playing in my head.

Aside from now calling himself the "chosen one/God" lately, Trump seems to have a habit of going on long rambling speeches about fake awards he never received.


It's not just the fact Trump is clearly losing his mind(yeah I know, "Trump is playing 6D Chess and punking the media" as Reddit/The Donald says), but again my conspiracy mind has to wonder if certain interests are feeding his delusions. A lot of the anti Bush 2000's era "conspiracy" people who were left or of the Ron Paul Libertarian side have gone full blown Trump apologist, but even they have to wonder if it's no accident Trump is president.

Maybe there's some esoteric energy grid "ley lines" in Greenland or Epstein's New Mexico ranch or wherever this elite fuckery is going. Maybe it's simply the global mineral companies want to suck Greenland dry of billion dollar resources as they did in Afghanistan post 2001. I dismissed the Greenland Trump thing, til I read how Greenland's ice is melting to lay bare the land to make it much easier for future energy companies to harvest all the natural resources. But then I am also reading of the strategic bases. If World War 3 is to come in the next decade with US and allies against Russia and China, perhaps Greenland is a major strategic point for US/allies as you allude to.

Why was Epstein/Maxwell and his elite pedo orbit so obsessed with "Ocean projects"? Couldnt be because they were partly good samaritan ecologists and environmentalists. Maybe the psychopath elite, despite pushing eco-destroying climate change accelerating measures, at the same time are aggressively pursuing a secret agenda with certain remote points on the globe(the Norway seed vault project comes to mind)