11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:19 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:31 am wrote:.

Salient points, Marionumber1.

There certainly are ample data points available (the timing of the insider trading/put options activities alone should have been enough for a formal inquiry beyond the hand-waving of the Warren/911 Commission, at a minimum; there's a money/transaction trail there. Even the likely shell companies/masked accounts behind such trades would be telling). But such formal inquiries would have almost certainly directed attention away from the Al Qaeda smokescreen. Verboten.

There is information available to scrutinize - one needn't even need to dig very deep, as you point out.

But few venture down those tracks, let alone allow themselves to get within striking distance of 'the 3rd rail'.
That said, the passage of time softens reserve. Future generations will get there, eventually.
Unfortunate we're such creatures of habit and fear that it takes so damn long to get there.


The insider trading is interesting because it occurred because of rogues within the general 9/11 conspiracy thought to line their own pockets. The dollars gained by individuals of the insider trading was miniscule compared to the wealth and power that could and have been derived from the cascading outcome of 9/11 (and still in progress).
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:25 pm

Also the broken election of GWB in 2000 is part of the 9/11 package.

If protocol had been carried out, Gore would have been POTUS. The USSC intervened and GWB was POTUS. The Democratic leadership and power brokers were apparently disinterested.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Grizzly » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:06 pm

^^^ Of which good ol' Jeb, was Governor Of Florida at the time. If memory serves me right.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:23 pm

The Past 5 GOP Presidents Have Used Fraud and Treason to Steer Themselves to Electoral Victory
In fact, Eisenhower was the last legitimately elected Republican president we’ve had in this country.
Since Dwight Eisenhower left the presidency in 1961, six different Republicans have occupied the Oval Office.
And every single one of them - from Richard Nixon to Donald Trump - have been illegitimate - ascending to the highest office in the land not through small-D democratic elections - but instead through fraud and treason.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby conniption » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:30 pm

9/11 Whistleblowers: Kevin Ryan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWRLoNOhRs
corbettreport
Published on Sep 6, 2019


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9/11 Whistleblowers: Cate Jenkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1CewEYLqjw
corbettreport
Published on Sep 7, 2019


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9/11 Whistleblowers: Barry Jennings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YhJcl0PO3U
corbettreport
Published on Sep 8, 2019
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:15 pm

DrDebug who posted here and at DU was the very best a really good friend and I miss him.

to JohnO'NeilsMemory who also posted here under a different name and at DU .....I miss you too


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Who Killed John O'Neill part II
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Who Killed John O'Neill part III
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"Who Killed John O'Neill" video -something new?
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Ultimately Silverstein was awarded nearly $5 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers
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Deutsche Bank is also one of the four banks most used by the bin Laden family.
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One of the former employees of Kroll, Jerome Hauer, organised a security job for ex-FBI anti- terror chief John O'Neill in the Twin Towers, where he died on September 11th 2001. (1)

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John O'Neill and his lost briefcase: O'Neill lost his briefcase on Aug. 19th 2001, in a Miami conference room. The briefcase was returned in a few hours, nothing was missing. In an interview with french authors Brisard + Dasquie (Forbidden Truth), he complained about the sabotage within the FBI and implied a plot against him by FBI-director Thomas Pickard or Louis Freeh

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April 26, 2001 the Port Authority leased the WTC for 99 years to Silverstein Properties and Westfield America Inc. The transaction was authorised by Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg.

On 24 July 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of the WTC following the Port Authority decision on April 26.

Silverstein and Frank Lowy, CEO of Westerfield Inc. took control of the 10.6 million- square-foot WTC complex. "Lowy leased the shopping concourse called the Mall at the WTC, which comprised about 427,000 square feet of retail space." (3)

Explicitly included in the agreement was that Silverstein and Westfield "were given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed". (4)

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CIA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR "BUZZY" KRONGARD MANAGED FIRM THAT HANDLED "PUT" OPTIONS ON UAL
by Michael C. Ruppert

<© COPYRIGHT, 2001, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications, http://www.copvcia.com . All Rights Reserved. - May be reprinted or distributed for non-profit purposes only.>

(...) there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal) foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In the case of at least one of these trades -- which has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed -- the firm used to place the "put options" on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the Central Intelligence Agency. Until 1997 A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard had been Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown. A.B. Brown was acquired by Banker's Trust in 1997. Krongard then became, as part of the merger, Vice Chairman of Banker's Trust-AB Brown, one of 20 major U.S. banks named by Senator Carl Levin this year as being connected to money laundering. Krongard's last position at Banker's Trust (BT) was to oversee "private client relations." In this capacity he had direct hands-on relations with some of the wealthiest people in the world in a kind of specialized banking operation that has been identified by the U.S. Senate and other investigators as being closely connected to the laundering of drug money.

Krongard joined the CIA in 1998 as counsel to CIA Director George Tenet. He was promoted to CIA Executive Director by President Bush in March of 2001. BT was acquired by Deutsche Bank in 1999. The combined firm is the single largest bank in Europe. And, as we shall see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected to the September 11 attacks.

The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of these options." This was the operation managed by Krongard until as recently as 1998.

As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the attacks.

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby conniption » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:31 pm

9/11 Whistleblowers: Michael Springmann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj_KOoVmAI
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Published on Sep 9, 2019

TRANSCRIPT: corbettreport.com/911whistleblowers/
That so many of the visas were issued from a single office may seem like a minor footnote at first glance, but it is not. In fact, the Jeddah Consulate is not just another US Consular Office. It has a history of issuing visas to terrorists at the request of the CIA. Just ask Michael Springmann. This is his story.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:52 pm

Thanks for those vids conniption I hadn't seen them but Jeff posted about him in Aug. '04


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The Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11

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The claims of Michael Springman, State Department veteran of the Jeddah visa bureau, that the CIA ran the office and issued visas to al Qaeda members to receive training in the United States, are merely sour grapes because he was fired for making such wild accusations.
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THE CIA OFFICER WHO OVERSAW TORTURE: Cofer Black

Cofer Black Headed Unit Alleged to Torture Detainees and Withhold Pre-9/11 Warning Memo to FBI

In the Osama bin Laden story, a former CIA official with the unlikely name “J. Cofer Black” is the character who seems to pop up in the most interesting places.

Indeed, Mr. Black is the one person at CIA who admits to having dealt with bin Laden, face-to-face, after the Soviets departed Afghanistan in the early 1990s.

During the last few years of his CIA career, Cofer Black had an extraordinarily focused, unusual assignment. Until he retired from CIA in late 2002, Cofer Black was one of the few officers within the clandestine service with a real subject matter expertise. Black’s specialty was Usama bin Laden, “UBL”, as he’s known in U.S. intelligence circles.

From 1999 until May 2002, Black was in charge of the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center, at which some historic decisions and catastrophic failures took place.

While Chief of Station in Sudan in the early 1990s, Black oversaw CIA contact with UBL, at the time that UBL was a major organizer of Mujahaddin veterans fighting in Bosnia; al Qaeda flowed in a straight line through Cofer Black to 9/11 and to the present day privatization of intelligence as Vice Chairman of Blackwater, LLC, and as Mitt Romney’s advisor on national security.

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Most career officers in the CIA clandestine division are generalists who move from station to station, assigned to fill slots in countries where their foreign languages and backgrounds are needed. Not Cofer Black. He was a specialist.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Grizzly » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:50 pm






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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby conniption » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:40 pm

9/11 Whistleblowers: William Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irNqB5N0o30
corbettreport
Published on Sep 10, 2019


TRANSCRIPT: corbettreport.com/911whistleblowers/

As a janitor holding a master key to the North Tower of the World Trade Center on the morning of 9/11, William Rodriguez risked his life till the very moment of the building's destruction helping those trapped inside the Towers to escape. But carefully curated from most mainstream reports on Rodriguez' remarkarble story is an equally remarkable fact: This 9/11 hero is in fact a 9/11 whistleblower, someone who has contradicted the official story of the September 11th attacks from day one. This is his story.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Elvis » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:16 am

conniption wrote:William Rodriguez

Thanks! Critical witness.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:46 am

8:46


the reason I started posting on the internet and I have meet the most incredible people after making that decision ..spent a lot of time in the Democratic Underground Dungeon after Skinner decided he didn't want us making General Discussion look bad


18 years



Odd..... sometimes being here the last 2 years makes me long for the kinder gentler DU dungeon days :bigsmile

jk.......RI bans the likes of (so did DU after his friend bolo outed sweetpea as a RW and I helped) here’s looking at you sweetpea

panties in a wad or knickers in a twist ....who can say sweetpea (Pinch)?
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Grizzly » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:12 pm

Slad, I think it's fantastic that you were part of the dig team back then at DU. Man, that was a remarkable time via the internet's collective minds and power of investigation by a large group! Bravo!

Salute to ya! :sun: :thumbsup
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:58 pm

they have disappeared me but all other OPs on this page are active

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Grizzly » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:49 pm


*LIVE* 9/11 first responders having a press conference right now to urge congress to reopen the 9/11 investigation.

I can't believe someone died from an explosion and was in the morgue before any plane hit any tower and nobody is talking about this!!!
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