What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment?

[Cordelia]

Take a child who's never seen gore or porn, show that child 1000 hours of gore and 1000 hours of porn, and tell me that's not child abuse. Our culture is a child abuser, a ritualistic traumatizer.

^^^Word. Good to see you back FourthBase; hope you stick around.

[82_28]

I watch a lot of 60's and 70's TV and the violence is so damned tame. Shout out to MeTV I guess. There is obviously such a different tone in "action" shows from back then. It was car chases and fights and most people die like flies on the first shot from a "tiny" gun. Plus cool car chases in the day.

[FourthBase]

Did I miss anyone on the board talking about the normalization of cannibalism on the Santa Clarita Diet or on the Sabrina reboot which also normalizes a pretty gruesome verson of theistic Satanism? Does anyone on the board still pay attention to the music videos Vigilant Citizen either analyzes or misanalyzes, or does a stream of artistic messages produced by elites involving mind control, ritual abuse, freemasonry, and the occult just not warrant the attention of consummate conspiracy theorists anymore?

[FourthBase]

Did I miss anyone on the board talking about the normalization of cannibalism on the Santa Clarita Diet or on the Sabrina reboot which also normalizes a pretty gruesome verson of theistic Satanism? Does anyone on the board still pay attention to the music videos Vigilant Citizen either analyzes or misanalyzes, or does a stream of artistic messages produced by elites involving mind control, ritual abuse, freemasonry, and the occult just not warrant the attention of consummate conspiracy theorists anymore?

Posted before I searched for "Sabrina cannibalism", and it turns out one person did bring it up.

^^They've hinted that she might come back (but probably not). Apparently it was a scheduling conflict with a Netflix movie she's in.

I forgot to mention my latest guilty pleasure: the new Sabrina the Teenage Witch show on Netflix. It's surprisingly entertaining and dark. It's got cannibalism, children served up for dinner, Sabrina performing human sacrifice and a main character who is under house arrest for trying to blow up the Vatican. And Miranda Otto (aunt Zelda) praising Satan and ranting about the false god and his propaganda machine never gets old. It's definitely not the Sabrina I grew up with.

And since we don't have a gaming thread, I'm currently replaying the Director's Cut of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It's an awesome game with so much rigint stuff in it. Secret FEMA internment camps, human experimentation, corporations taking over, the media fabricating and twisting the news, mind control, dodgy implants, spooky AIs, cults, geo-engineering, private military contractors up to nefarious shit and shadowy, powerful people pulling all the strings, all set in a cyberpunk near future. It's like they looked at rigint for inspiration and decided to go with all of it.

[thrulookingglass]

How is it that people become so shocked by the violence on fictional tv shows, movies, video games, etc. and completely complacent about the REAL violence involved in the world's militiaries, police forces and even their "God"? What the fuck is Satanism anyhow? Can anyone explain this to me, because according to the Bible Satan and God have a pretty good relationship. Desensitizing one to violence may begin with worshiping a crucifixion or a being who, out of complete anger and rage, drowns an entire planet. If you want to blame anyone for desensitizing YOU to violence, look in the mirror. I'm not worried about Stephen King going on a school shooting rampage. I'm not worried that Rob Zombie is going to saw off people's heads with a chain saw. Even Shakespearean plays offer portrayals of violence. Who weeps for Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? Unreal. Real children dying in Yemen, business as usual. Witchcraft on Sabrina! CALL THE COPS! Scared of five pointed stars with a circle around them, upside down crosses, swastikas, but ready to embrace a being may or may not torture homosexuals forever. Gads! We are the evil force here. Shame on anyone for blaming there errant behaviors on anyone but themselves. Violence solves nothing. Never could. Never will. Fear worship. Too afraid to stand up for whats right. What will the neighbors say when I reject "capitalism"? Comfortable in your current decay. Not my problem. Jesus gonna save it. The egg of torture worship we sit upon is ours to hatch. Righteousness doesn't come from might or fear, it comes by necessity. Archie Bunker made me racist, Jodie Dallas made my son queer, CBS, NBC, and CNN let me know that free market capitalism would free us from sin. Horrific actions destroy grace in the world, not imaginations thereof.

Sammy Davis Jr. was enamored by Satanism for a while. No one is pissing on his grave. Frank Sinatra out and out raped a few women, drugging them before taking advantage of them, but he's still king of the board. It's the queer teletubbies ruining the world, not clandestine military action or simply 'industry'. Sell your soul, the devil spun forth blues music at the crossroads, throw a pinch of salt over your shoulder, ouija boards are gateways to demons, self flagellations, mock crucifixions (because one wasn't bad enough), don't forget your Sharia law fart cleansing rituals because 'ol Satan made shit stink too.

Keeping religion immune from criticism is both unwarranted and dangerous. Unless we are willing to expose religious irrationality whenever it arises, we will encourage irrational public policy and promote ignorance over education for our children. - Scientific American, LM Krauss

When will we admit that we're the monsters we've been looking for? Name me one day and age where humanity didn't rule through violence and heartless retributions? Violence in video games? Anyone actually read the bible? When God burned to death 250 men for burning incense in Numbers 16.35? Drown them in the flood or burnt to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptian children did he kill? The swords most harmful end isn't that which mars flesh, but that which wields it as a punitive measure in faith that evil can be used to correct evil.

Violence isn't on television. Its right outside your door.

[FourthBase]

I wonder if edgy tinfoil lefties would still be tickled by a Drew Barrymore show where she makes cannibalizing poor people look cool. Or a Sabrina show where her cool child-eating Satanist family are Trump-loving Dyncorp executives.

I also still wonder what lefties here would say about a major Republican lobbyist owning a murdered-children/abused-infant/naked-teens/decapitated-corpse art collection. Or if it had been a Bush campaign chairman hanging cannibalism paintings in the headquarters and bragging about buying vacation property 50 feet from where the Donner Party ate each other.

I guess that kind of shit is okay if it's "enlightened", lol.

[JackRiddler]

Wow.

How is it that people become so shocked by the violence on fictional tv shows, movies, video games, etc. and completely complacent about the REAL violence involved in the world's militiaries, police forces and even their "God"? What the fuck is Satanism anyhow? Can anyone explain this to me, because according to the Bible Satan and God have a pretty good relationship. Desensitizing one to violence may begin with worshiping a crucifixion or a being who, out of complete anger and rage, drowns an entire planet. If you want to blame anyone for desensitizing YOU to violence, look in the mirror. I'm not worried about Stephen King going on a school shooting rampage. I'm not worried that Rob Zombie is going to saw off people's heads with a chain saw. Even Shakespearean plays offer portrayals of violence. Who weeps for Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? Unreal. Real children dying in Yemen, business as usual. Witchcraft on Sabrina! CALL THE COPS! Scared of five pointed stars with a circle around them, upside down crosses, swastikas, but ready to embrace a being may or may not torture homosexuals forever. Gads! We are the evil force here. Shame on anyone for blaming there errant behaviors on anyone but themselves. Violence solves nothing. Never could. Never will. Fear worship. Too afraid to stand up for whats right. What will the neighbors say when I reject "capitalism"? Comfortable in your current decay. Not my problem. Jesus gonna save it. The egg of torture worship we sit upon is ours to hatch. Righteousness doesn't come from might or fear, it comes by necessity. Archie Bunker made me racist, Jodie Dallas made my son queer, CBS, NBC, and CNN let me know that free market capitalism would free us from sin. Horrific actions destroy grace in the world, not imaginations thereof.

Sammy Davis Jr. was enamored by Satanism for a while. No one is pissing on his grave. Frank Sinatra out and out raped a few women, drugging them before taking advantage of them, but he's still king of the board. It's the queer teletubbies ruining the world, not clandestine military action or simply 'industry'. Sell your soul, the devil spun forth blues music at the crossroads, throw a pinch of salt over your shoulder, ouija boards are gateways to demons, self flagellations, mock crucifixions (because one wasn't bad enough), don't forget your Sharia law fart cleansing rituals because 'ol Satan made shit stink too.

Keeping religion immune from criticism is both unwarranted and dangerous. Unless we are willing to expose religious irrationality whenever it arises, we will encourage irrational public policy and promote ignorance over education for our children. - Scientific American, LM Krauss

When will we admit that we're the monsters we've been looking for? Name me one day and age where humanity didn't rule through violence and heartless retributions? Violence in video games? Anyone actually read the bible? When God burned to death 250 men for burning incense in Numbers 16.35? Drown them in the flood or burnt to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptian children did he kill? The swords most harmful end isn't that which mars flesh, but that which wields it as a punitive measure in faith that evil can be used to correct evil.

Violence isn't on television. Its right outside your door.

[Iamwhomiam]

^^^^ Jack, please edit your quote to exclude your comment from thrulookingglass'. Thanks.

I wonder if edgy tinfoil lefties would still be tickled by a Drew Barrymore show where she makes cannibalizing poor people look cool. Or a Sabrina show where her cool child-eating Satanist family are Trump-loving Dyncorp executives.

I also still wonder what lefties here would say about a major Republican lobbyist owning a murdered-children/abused-infant/naked-teens/decapitated-corpse art collection. Or if it had been a Bush campaign chairman hanging cannibalism paintings in the headquarters and bragging about buying vacation property 50 feet from where the Donner Party ate each other.

I guess that kind of shit is okay if it's "enlightened", lol.

When I fist started binge-watching Black Mirror online, I had no idea it was anything more than a fantasy. Once I learned what it was really all about, I felt disgusted and became annoyed with myself for having watched it. I couldn't imagine wanting to watch a show like the Sabrina show or why anyone would, no matter whom it is being cannibalized . Oh, I get the youthful rebel mindset would be attracted to such an anti-establishment, witchery (satanistic?) and cannibal themed production with youthful actors, but adults?

"I also still wonder what lefties here would say about a major Republican lobbyist owning a murdered-children/abused-infant/naked-teens/decapitated-corpse art collection. Or if it had been a Bush campaign chairman hanging cannibalism paintings in the headquarters and bragging about buying vacation property 50 feet from where the Donner Party ate each other."

Which Republican lobbyist did you have in mind, Fourth Base? There are so may fitting your description, you've got to narrow it down a bit. You know something about Bannon that we don't? Or were you referring to Manafort? But brag about their Pass property, they do, and about the killing they're making by fracking it. And they much prefer the moving picture to the tortured still-life, so being entertained by watching snuff films is much more their style.

But then again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist; I know conspiracies exist and are quite numerous and common.

But let's get to the point of why you initiated this particular thread. It seems you were looking for a term to use to disparage left leaning folks you communicate with via FB. What is your interest in dissociative states induced thru trauma? Have you become masochistic or sadist?

I mean its pretty strange to ask for help and then besmirch those who have tried to help you. Ultimately, as much as I love you, shame on you! Do not politicize abuse. We all know abusers belong to every party that exists. They're all bad people, no matter how high their perversion gets them.

[FourthBase]

Which Republican lobbyist did you have in mind, Fourth Base? There are so may fitting your description, you've got to narrow it down a bit. You know something about Bannon that we don't? Or were you referring to Manafort? But brag about their Pass property, they do, and about the killing they're making by fracking it. And they much prefer the moving picture to the tortured still-life, so being entertained by watching snuff films is much more their style.

Tony Podesta.

Remember him?

But then again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist; I know conspiracies exist and are quite numerous and common.

Come on, we're all conspiracy theorists here.

But let's get to the point of why you initiated this particular thread. It seems you were looking for a term to use to disparage left leaning folks you communicate with via FB. What is your interest in dissociative states induced thru trauma? Have you become masochistic or sadist?

I was writing a paper for a community college science fiction class about the movie Serenity and couldn't remember the term, is all.

I mean its pretty strange to ask for help and then besmirch those who have tried to help you. Ultimately, as much as I love you, shame on you! Do not politicize abuse. We all know abusers belong to every party that exists. They're all bad people, no matter how high their perversion gets them.

I didn't politicize abuse three years ago, was the problem. I was equally horrified by the ghoulish progressives of Pizzagate. But almost everyone here bailed on their RigInt spidey senses in favor of tribal loyalty.

[FourthBase]

If you ask yourself how you would respond if another Franklin Scandal broke through the gatekeepers, the answer is that you probably turtled and played partisan gatekeeper. If you wonder what you would say if youth were being bombarded with traumatizing propaganda by occult elites, the answer is you probably appreciate the aesthetics.

[FourthBase]

I actually nodded along in agreement with much of the lookingglass rant above. For example, it's true, the old God of Genesis and Job is a psychopath. Job just wanted to know why, and God self-righteously evaded the answer because the only real answer is that it was all just a bet with Satan, who is not supposed to exist because there's only supposed to be one god, which all proves this God is an evil lying cunt, but swarms of tribal loyalists swear by its beauty as holy wisdom literature anyway. Not too dissimilar, now that I think about it. It's as if the Bible were the original Pizzagate and inspecting the rot is blasphemy.

[82_28]

Did you get your answer you reached out for, 4B? If you answer in the affirmative I will just close this. But as one "overseer" of this joint, I am not going to let this devolve into ugliness.

Did you get the answer to your query?

[FourthBase]

It really is interesting to ponder how differently Pizzagate would be interpreted if you mash it up in a Franklin context. Let's say George H. W. Bush is on the record frequently flying on billionaire pedophile pimp Lawrence King's private jet and co-founding a corrupt charity with him, a prominent Republican lobbyist and fundraiser close to Bush proudly shows off his collection of child snuff art, Bush's campaign chairman repeatedly gloats about a cannibalism fetish and gets invited to bloody occult rituals led by a rich and famous performance artist who also has a cannibalism fetish, Neil Bush vacations with and invites to his wedding Lawrence King's partner in crime well after King is caught, meanwhile Craig Spence owns a restaurant which entices children to play games inside but then also hosts all-ages black metal concerts and publishes a private newsletter with injokes about murder and pedophilia. How would that go over?

[FourthBase]

Did you get your answer you reached out for, 4B? If you answer in the affirmative I will just close this. But as one "overseer" of this joint, I am not going to let this devolve into ugliness.

Did you get the answer to your query?

Holy shit, you're literally a gatekeeper now, lol?
What in the fuck is "ugliness"?

What is it that you can't tolerate?

[82_28]

If you got your answer you were seeking and want to keep this thread alive for everyone's sake, I invite you to rename it. Yes, I am a mod which I just noticed you looked at. I will make no efforts to change anyone's trains of thought and do not do so, but yes, I have that "power". But just tighten it up a bit for the sake of everyone. Or if your train is going a different direction now, start a new thread!

Gatekeeper? Yeah, no. You just changed subjects asking for help and then switched the impetus around. I ain't gonna edit shit. I was only prodding you to make your own choice and I guess I can make mine which is locking this thread. You are still perfectly free to start new ones. Then again, this could just fall off the map. But for continuity's sake, if you got your answer, then you got your answer.