What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment?

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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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I just searched the board for any posts about Billy Eilish. Absolutely zero results found. How is it possible that the number one pop star for young teens puts out music videos about satanic mind control and not a single person on Rigorous Intuition thinks to ask, "Wait, what the fuck?"

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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby 82_28 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:45 pm

Well you kinda just did! I have never heard of that guy before you brought him up.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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82_28 » 04 Oct 2019 15:45 wrote:Well you kinda just did! I have never heard of that guy before you brought him up.


Open the link and actually read it.
It's interesting and disturbing.
Eilish is a girl.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:24 am

I became familiar with her only early yesterday. The NY Times had a clip from SNL of her with Woody Harrelson. She was the show's guest performer Saturday, I believe.

What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

That vigilant citizen site is something else. "An entire article could be written about this ultimate depiction of human suffering."

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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 03:24 wrote:I became familiar with her only early yesterday. The NY Times had a clip from SNL of her with Woody Harrelson. She was the show's guest performer Saturday, I believe.

What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

That vigilant citizen site is something else. "An entire article could be written about this ultimate depiction of human suffering."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfdgwJenJKY


A sensational market-capturing gimmick. See, I told you if it were framed in an anti-capitalist way you'd eat this shit up. ;)

But seriously, does it not occur to you that something horribly, horribly fucking wrong has happened when catering to tween entertainment demand means feeding them satanic mind control?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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And yeah I get the irony of how creepy, sadistic, demonic, and cannibalistic the Christian fetish for sacrificing Jesus is, too. I mean, Jesus is basically a witch. I'm a connoisseur of irony. It's hilarious. But we've already established that right wing Christianity can be a cover for immense evil. It's a bummer for that freethinking realization to be paired with reflexive dismissal of or apathy about or apologies for any immense evil that left wing enlightenment could be a cover for.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:30 am

Here's a hypothetical question too tough for many here to answer honestly, prompted by the Larouche nutjob who just exquisitely trolled AOC: What would philosophically prevent a satanic witch with a NARAL-level absolutist stance on abortion rights from eating an aborted fetus?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:12 pm

FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:10 am wrote:
Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 03:24 wrote:I became familiar with her only early yesterday. The NY Times had a clip from SNL of her with Woody Harrelson. She was the show's guest performer Saturday, I believe.

What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

That vigilant citizen site is something else. "An entire article could be written about this ultimate depiction of human suffering."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PZsSWwc9xA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfdgwJenJKY


A sensational market-capturing gimmick. See, I told you if it were framed in an anti-capitalist way you'd eat this shit up. ;)

But seriously, does it not occur to you that something horribly, horribly fucking wrong has happened when catering to tween entertainment demand means feeding them satanic mind control?


Anti-capitalist? Quite the contrary, to be sure: "What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick."

"But seriously, does it not occur to you that something horribly, horribly fucking wrong has happened when catering to tween entertainment demand means feeding them satanic mind control?"


I'm reminded every day that something's horribly wrong, and acknowledge I'm all but powerless these days to change anything more than my underwear. My days of activism has passed on to a new generation, so in pursuing me with your questions, you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't recall your concern about the dark encompassing heavy metal artists, who preach hate from the same book, ever being mentioned here before. Hey, I saw Alice Cooper perform "Killer," but it didn't make me want to murder and eat anyone.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:18 pm

FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:30 am wrote:Here's a hypothetical question too tough for many here to answer honestly, prompted by the Larouche nutjob who just exquisitely trolled AOC: What would philosophically prevent a satanic witch with a NARAL-level absolutist stance on abortion rights from eating an aborted fetus?


Maybe they're vegan?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:49 pm

FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:19 am wrote:And yeah I get the irony of how creepy, sadistic, demonic, and cannibalistic the Christian fetish for sacrificing Jesus is, too. I mean, Jesus is basically a witch. I'm a connoisseur of irony. It's hilarious. But we've already established that right wing Christianity can be a cover for immense evil. It's a bummer for that freethinking realization to be paired with reflexive dismissal of or apathy about or apologies for any immense evil that left wing enlightenment could be a cover for.


4thB, you really need to drop that "enlightenment" bit. It's not enlightenment that's the reward, but power, whether real or imagined. And forget about creating artificial division lines - left = evil and right = goodness. It alters the argument by polarizing your audience and through misdirection. Satanism is as widespread as the Roman Catholic Church, so I've been led to believe after reading only a bit of RI's vast archives.

When one truly considers the ritual practices of the Catholic Church Mass, eating the host, a representation of cannibalizing their Savior, and drinking wine, representing the imbibement of Christ's blood, and its long history of pedophilic priests, a religion you, to the best of my knowledge, practice weekly, if not daily. Should I accuse you of supporting such conduct, simply by being a member of this cult? Of course not. Nor should you believe every young pop star is engaged in satanism, regardless how bizarre their performances may appear to you or me.

Now please don't misconstrue my remarks to thinking I fault you or find you an evil participant for being a member of your religion. Everyone can believe what they wish to, whether I understand why they hold their beliefs or not.

My days of fighting the good fight are over. I'm preparing for death. So, what are you going to do about this evil you perceive? Rant about its evils here, or through your direct action, work to pursue its exposure and end?
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:14 pm

Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 13:12 wrote:
FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:10 am wrote:
Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 03:24 wrote:I became familiar with her only early yesterday. The NY Times had a clip from SNL of her with Woody Harrelson. She was the show's guest performer Saturday, I believe.

What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

That vigilant citizen site is something else. "An entire article could be written about this ultimate depiction of human suffering."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PZsSWwc9xA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfdgwJenJKY


A sensational market-capturing gimmick. See, I told you if it were framed in an anti-capitalist way you'd eat this shit up. ;)

But seriously, does it not occur to you that something horribly, horribly fucking wrong has happened when catering to tween entertainment demand means feeding them satanic mind control?


Anti-capitalist? Quite the contrary, to be sure: "What's sensational, but only that, is what some teens do to capture a market. Satanism and Illuminati memes are prolific, and I'm sure, taken to be factual when they are nothing more than a marketing gimmick."

"But seriously, does it not occur to you that something horribly, horribly fucking wrong has happened when catering to tween entertainment demand means feeding them satanic mind control?"


I'm reminded every day that something's horribly wrong, and acknowledge I'm all but powerless these days to change anything more than my underwear. My days of activism has passed on to a new generation, so in pursuing me with your questions, you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't recall your concern about the dark encompassing heavy metal artists, who preach hate from the same book, ever being mentioned here before. Hey, I saw Alice Cooper perform "Killer," but it didn't make me want to murder and eat anyone.


If the new youth voice appointed by MTV were a Swedish black metal band, I would absolutely be just as appalled. And, yes, looking back, it's probably not healthy for kids to grow up on the dark propaganda of even mainstream heavy metal, either. Such kids might not themselves mature into psychotic monsters, but they'll be so gradually deadened and blinded to deepening abnormality that they'll wind up letting their kids grow up on satanic mind control propaganda until one day, lo and behold, devil-worshipping cannibals are totally normal.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 13:18 wrote:
FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:30 am wrote:Here's a hypothetical question too tough for many here to answer honestly, prompted by the Larouche nutjob who just exquisitely trolled AOC: What would philosophically prevent a satanic witch with a NARAL-level absolutist stance on abortion rights from eating an aborted fetus?


Maybe they're vegan?


Maybe. But then again the women having abortions to serve up as sacrificial meals would be consenting to it in a way cows and hens and fish and bees can't. Ultimately, the aborted fetus is mere tissue to pro-choice absolutists, no more special than a placenta which gets made into casserole or soup, no more sacred than evacuated human shit. Is coprophagia haram to vegans? Then again, a witch might want to eat a fetus precisely because her religious kink is disgracing that which is sacred. Again, what's stopping her? Ethically, morally? Nothing. What would stop her legally? What law would she be breaking, if she were caught red-faced? A rule about proper medical waste disposal, that's it. Smoking weed in public brings harsher consequences than eating an aborted fetus. Because the risk is so low and the transgressive value is so high, of course there are going to be witches who ritualistically practice fetus-eating. There must be hundreds if not thousands of fetus-eaters. And the vast majority of them will be, or at least pretend to be, progressives.
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

Postby FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:03 pm

Iamwhomiam » 05 Oct 2019 13:49 wrote:
FourthBase » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:19 am wrote:And yeah I get the irony of how creepy, sadistic, demonic, and cannibalistic the Christian fetish for sacrificing Jesus is, too. I mean, Jesus is basically a witch. I'm a connoisseur of irony. It's hilarious. But we've already established that right wing Christianity can be a cover for immense evil. It's a bummer for that freethinking realization to be paired with reflexive dismissal of or apathy about or apologies for any immense evil that left wing enlightenment could be a cover for.


4thB, you really need to drop that "enlightenment" bit. It's not enlightenment that's the reward, but power, whether real or imagined.


Yeah, no shit. The enlightenment is just a pretense.

And forget about creating artificial division lines - left = evil and right = goodness. It alters the argument by polarizing your audience and through misdirection. Satanism is as widespread as the Roman Catholic Church, so I've been led to believe after reading only a bit of RI's vast archives.


Do you not get what I'm suggesting? I'm saying that a powerful minority of the right and a powerful minority of the left are both evil. I could probably count on one hand the number of Rigorous Intuition posters willing to contemplate the latter.

As for Satanism versus Catholicism, look, let's be real, if you're a theistic Satanist, you're willfully fucking evil. By definition. Whereas the vast majority of Catholics are, far from perfect, but not evil. I don't buy the harmless PR of the atheistic Satanists who get all the media attention now as mere cosplayers making a political point. I mean, they're literally fucking Satanists whose sacred motto is do whatever the fuck you want, so what would ever philosophically stop them from lying to the media publicly and then privately murdering pets and devouring fetus flesh?

When one truly considers the ritual practices of the Catholic Church Mass, eating the host, a representation of cannibalizing their Savior, and drinking wine, representing the imbibement of Christ's blood, and its long history of pedophilic priests, a religion you, to the best of my knowledge, practice weekly, if not daily. Should I accuse you of supporting such conduct, simply by being a member of this cult? Of course not. Nor should you believe every young pop star is engaged in satanism, regardless how bizarre their performances may appear to you or me.


I am not a Catholic. Do you really think Catholics call God an evil lying cunt and Jesus a witch? If the music industry elite were pumping kids with videos that glorify priests molesting children, what would you think? You certainly wouldn't just call it merely bizarre, merely a gimmick, merely a peculiar sort of erotica.

Now please don't misconstrue my remarks to thinking I fault you or find you an evil participant for being a member of your religion. Everyone can believe what they wish to, whether I understand why they hold their beliefs or not.

My days of fighting the good fight are over. I'm preparing for death. So, what are you going to do about this evil you perceive? Rant about its evils here, or through your direct action, work to pursue its exposure and end?


It's not ranting, it's trying to persuade some of the most supposedly openminded conspiracy theorists in the world that they're ignoring a big pile of evil shit rotting right under their noses all because the perps are The Good Guys. If I can't do that, what hope do I have of persuading normal people. Hmm. Actually, maybe that'll be way easier, since normal people aren't emotionally invested in edgy art or ideologies. Good point, lol!
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Re: What's the theory that says trauma induces enlightenment

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As much as it's hilarious to observe how delusionally self-important this place can be, myself not excluded, there really is something crucially important about this place. There are not many cliques online that are open to examining territory like Pizzagate and Vigilant Citizen, and most that exist are either insanely stupid or insanely right wing or both. This place used to be dedicated to sniffing out shit like the horrific occult secrets of the elite. If even Rigorous Intuition posters gatekeep themselves, self-enforce a taboo, then there may be literally no other community in the world that thinks about whatever truth there might be in Pizzagate or Vigilant Citizen, except for toxic fundies and Nazis. Which makes for the perfect crime, when you think about it. Just like how some ritual abusers use fantastical props to spoil the credibility of survivor testimony, they must also love it when whatever little does leak out is auto-discredited as the delusions of Jesus freaks and fascists. I mean, this place wouldn't have much currency in the mainstream realm beyond Crazy Pinkos, either, but on the other hand RI should be better equipped to understand the situation than shallow reactionaries, better equipped to convey whatever is horribly true about the situation to others on the left. There'd be a stereoscopic focus on the situation, from the left and the right. Which could all make RI a dangerous place for the ghouls who use tribal loyalty as a shield. Ah, but RI enables the shield instead. I repeat: To the extent that you willfully ignore the implications of the disturbingly factual parts of Pizzagate and Vigilant Citizen, you are acting as a shield for sadistic occult elites. Please do not do that.
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