Coming Soon - War with Iran?

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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:58 pm

thrulookingglass » 04 Jan 2020 12:01 wrote:If you/we do not advocate for grace for the least of us, where will we find any for our own? Non-violence is the path to peace. This was done as a distraction from the impeachment much as Reagan and Grenada. US citizens contact your elected officials and let them know you do not want war with Iran. The USA is the culprit here not Iran. CIA blowback! ‘Nuff said!


Peace is great! So why would you ever not also blame Iran and the scumbag Soleimani who helped Hezbollah and Hamas and various violent militias murder people? You want grace for Soleimani? WHY? What would you have rather attempted, a non-violent debate with him to discourage him from orchestrating attacks? Honestly, so long as this assassination doesn't prompt war, then picking off the leaders of violence like this seems like it would be a vast improvement over war. Almost like resolving global conflicts via dueling. Are people just upset that the US would be way better at it? Not a fair fight? Oh well.

Could've been intended to distract from the impeachment. Could've been intended to force Democrats into the appearance of publicly supporting Iran. Could've been intended to start a war to please Exxon, Raytheon, and Israel. Could've been a needless show of force to reinforce American power to the whole world. Could've been all of the above, and more, besides the official explanation that Soleimani needed to go because he was arranging more American murder. Also could've been that, though. If it were just that last one, hypothetically, would people here object to taking him out, and insist that American forces take their Iranian terrorist medicine?
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:06 pm

FB, do yourself a favour and inform your view.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Elvis » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:49 pm

This didn't age well:

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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:57 pm

^Have you seen the video?





FB, can you explain the article below from your world view? Israel knows what America will do before congress knows what America will do.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ssion=true
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Sounder » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:01 pm

I'm curious Fourth Base, do you support the White Helmets and US activities in Syria?
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:12 pm

Harvey » 04 Jan 2020 13:06 wrote:FB, do yourself a favour and inform your view.


Are.

Hezbollah.

And.

Hamas.

Jihadists.

Or.

Not.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:20 pm

FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:12 pm wrote:
Harvey » 04 Jan 2020 13:06 wrote:FB, do yourself a favour and inform your view.


Are.

Hezbollah.

And.

Hamas.

Jihadists.

Or.

Not.


What is a jihadist?
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:21 pm

Harvey » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:57 pm wrote:^Have you seen the video?





FB, can you explain the article below from your world view? Israel knows what America will do before congress knows what America will do.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ssion=true
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:24 pm

FourthBase wrote:Are.

Hezbollah.

And.

Hamas.

Jihadists.

Or.

Not.


Yes, I believe they are Jihadists. But there is a question that lays beyond the answer. That question is: why?
Why are they Jihadists, Fourthbase?
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby RocketMan » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:14 pm

What is a "jihadist", exactly? A very good question. Is it the same as "terrorist"? "Insurgent"?

You seem to have it all figured out, FourthBase, so why hang around with us mortal "fools" grasping in the dark, denying the Holy Beneficence of US Full Spectrum Dominance?

For the LULZ? For the kekekekekes?
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby thrulookingglass » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:15 pm

Let's not be rude.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:48 pm

Harvey » 04 Jan 2020 13:57 wrote:^Have you seen the video?





FB, can you explain the article below from your world view? Israel knows what America will do before congress knows what America will do.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ssion=true


Pretty easy scenario to explain.

"Hey ally, here's a head's up, we're about to do something that might incite your enemy to immediately attack you."

Israel is an ally. Congress, as it is right now? Not so much an ally. More like an internal enemy, of the president at least. If Trump had warned the House, that shit would've been leaked quicker than you can say "piss tape", spoiling the whole operation.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:09 pm

Sounder » 04 Jan 2020 14:01 wrote:I'm curious Fourth Base, do you support the White Helmets and US activities in Syria?


Eh.

Seems like American and Russian propaganda are both partly true. They're obviously a Western-sponsored intelligence and propaganda operation. That's not even disputed, is it? But as part of their op they do seem to be actually helping the victims of what sure as hell seem to be real war crimes. (The hoax and crisis actor theories are bullshit, I think.) Some members look like they're, uh, partisan, to say the least. I'm sure the group includes a few jihadists and some jihadist-sympathizers, and given the situation and the size of the group I'd be surprised if there weren't any. Is the group as a whole linked to terrorists? No, I think that's a lie. They might find themselves next to some jihadists because jihadists have insinuated themselves into the genuine rebel cause. Frankly, if someday there's a war against transhumanists to save the human species from extinction, I wouldn't really give a fuck if I found myself on the same side as ISIS and Nazis and Communists, so, I'm not really gonna judge.

The truth isn't quite in the middle, but it's definitely only visible in 3D. They're selfishly defended by Russia's enemies, and they're selfishly maligned by Russia and Russia's allies. The latter of which includes the tinfoil left and the tinfoil right, oddly enough. I haven't checked, but I'm assuming most here are against the White Hats. The same people who would probably find it deplorable to discredit the arguments and activism of an anti-nuclear pacifist organization because it was funded by the Soviet Union, have no problem destroying the White Hats for being Western shills? Interesting.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:12 pm

Harvey » 04 Jan 2020 14:20 wrote:
FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:12 pm wrote:
Harvey » 04 Jan 2020 13:06 wrote:FB, do yourself a favour and inform your view.


Are.

Hezbollah.

And.

Hamas.

Jihadists.

Or.

Not.


What is a jihadist?


Of course.

:lol:

Sorry to laugh, just so fucking predictable.

Dude, you're the one who said Soleimani was fighting jihadists, so you must know what the term means. Here's a little hint:

HEZBOLLAH AND HAMAS ARE DEFINITELY JIHADISTS.
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Re: Coming Soon - War with Iran?

Postby FourthBase » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:17 pm

coffin_dodger » 04 Jan 2020 14:24 wrote:
FourthBase wrote:Are.

Hezbollah.

And.

Hamas.

Jihadists.

Or.

Not.


Yes, I believe they are Jihadists. But there is a question that lays beyond the answer. That question is: why?
Why are they Jihadists, Fourthbase?


Umm...because they're vile, murderous antisemites driven by fundamentalist Islam? Oh, wait, am I supposed to say they're glorious freedom fighters trying to liberate the oppressed from occupation? Is that how you'd describe Al Qaeda, too?
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