Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[chump]

^Trump test negative, physician says…

https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=57705
Bill Gates Steps Down from Microsoft’s Board of Directors
March 14th, 2020

Never forget: Event 201

Via: BBC

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates is stepping down from the company’s board to spend more time on philanthropic activities.

He says he wants to focus on global health and development, education and tackling climate change.

One of the world’s richest men, Mr Gates, 65, has also left the board of Warren Buffett’s massive holding company, Berkshire Hathaway.

[Luther Blissett]

Oh I know he’s tested negative, but isn’t it still just funny that he has it?

That news is going to be strange. I can’t predict how people will react, other than denial.

[Iamwhomiam]

And what's with the Tom Hanks hatred?

Trigger Warning
https://www.bitchute.com/video/f382bR6vQeG7/



https://humansarefree.com/2018/08/tom-hanks-accused-of-buying-13-year-old-girl-from-her-father-and-raped-her-actor-isaac-kappy-recently-called-him-a-pedophile.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/fhbk47/hanks_blackmailed_for_years_test_or_be_next_stein/

Grizzly, the Hanks bit with his kid is a Kimmel produced parody pointing out the absurdity of the kiddie beauty pageant biz and those supporting and participating in it.
As to the other allegations I'm ignorant, but in this me too era, why was more from this young woman not heard?

[identity]

I have also started taking Oil of Oregano on a regular basis. I always have a bottle of this on hand (if a problem tooth ever flares up, OoO is GUARANTEED to kill the pain – as well as any infection – at least temporarily, and almost always until the next flare-up!), and it cannot hurt to possibly be fortifying my defenses with this. I highly recommend the New Roots OoO (diluted 25% in olive oil), from oregano harvested in the mountains of Turkey, with a very high carvacrol content.

Do you dilute it yourself or buy it that way?

(Clove oil topically applied is also fantastic for tooth pain/infection)

I was just at Hole Feuds and all New Roots OoO products were sold out (along with some other brands as well). They *are* on sale right now, so that may have been a factor, but I think there's a general awareness that OoO is a powerful antifungal/antibacterial/antiviral agent that's always good to have around, and now in particular. Maybe people are hoarding it, along with the TP, pasta, and spaghetti sauce?

(RE: clove oil, yeah, I'm aware of its use in helping with dental issues, but since OoO is more multipurpose, and therefore something I tend to always have on hand, I've never personally needed to get the clove oil as well.)

[Iamwhomiam]

Good advice, identity. Thanks.

Joe, you left one out - call the undertaker and arrange for him to take you under or burn you up. Be sure to get a money-back guarantee though; he might expire before fulfiling the contract.

Seriously, be well, Joe and all.

[identity]

Latest from Spiro Skouras:
Multiple Nations Suggest Coronavirus Originated in America! Is This Possible?
(with guest, The Last American Vagabond)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvAHEzIt9NE

[Luther Blissett]

What’s the possibility that Trump’s mysterious, still-unsatisfactorily-explained visit to Walter Reed on November 16, the day of the first Coronavirus case in China (over the international date line), is somehow linked to a vaccine or bioweaponry?

[Belligerent Savant]

^^^^
Nothing can be ruled out.


As an addendum to Identity's remedy suggestions, a physician friend of mine also recommended the following (*with the standard disclaimers that due diligence should be applied at all times based on your individual 'health profile'/ability to ingest certain ingredients):

https://store.drhyman.com/immunoberry-liquid.html

A super strong immune support and defense against colds, flu, sinusitis, viral hepatitis, respiratory tract infections and bacterial infections, in a pleasant tasting liquid. Contains herbs, mushrooms, elderberry, wild cherry bark, all with antiviral and antibacterial properties.

ImmunoBerry™ Liquid contains: Certified organic extracts of Astragalus (Astragalus membranaceus), Wild Cherry Bark (Prunus serotina), Shiitake mushroom (Lentinula edodes), Maitake mushroom (Grifola frondosa), Elderberry (Sambucus nigra), plus Beta 1,3 Glucan.

[Wombaticus Rex]

It's tough to get even bounded estimates on the scope of our current situation, but a useful question to guide that project is: When Will This End?

Most governments, around the world, are lying about everything. Nothing new. There are zero incentives to be transparent, which is why it's remarkably fortunate that Italy has been sounding the alarm for Europe. It's not like the EU has been in any rush to provide aid, and China has famously stepped in to sell them supplies (much of which they got from France, which is poetry.)

Until there are discussions for some kind of "global Marshall Plan" to cut aid checks and provide liquidity for affected nations, nobody is going to come clean. Once that happens, though, expect to see a lot of "recently discovered outbreaks" and "sudden upticks." As air travel gets increasingly locked down, this too will remove some of the stronger economic incentives to lie. (And we may be close to a global moratorium on air travel.)

There has been a lot of anti-American PR in the past week, par for the course considering who journalists are (liberals) and who they work for (globalists). The hype about Taiwan, South Korea and Japan "doing it right" may prove to be somewhat true, but it's likely that these narratives are going to unravel -- especially in Japan, who have taken the samurai oath to hold the Summer Olympics through the plague.

The single biggest problem confounding our understanding of what's coming is still China. Their communications, from their official statements to their media assets around the world, many of them traitors here in America, have been an exercise in PR autocracy from the start, and nothing has changed that.

A lot has been made of Dr. Bruce Ayward's research expedition to China on behalf of WHO, but the data he brough back should be regarded with just as much skepticism as China's GDP. Another voyage into the heart of an allegedly communist empire comes to mind: Edouard Herriot's tour of Ukraine -- or, more hilariously, Henry "Roerich" Wallace's trip to the see the "volunteers" in the Soviet labor camps. WHO's repsonse to nCoV has been influenced by China all along, and there's no reason to assume what he saw in China was anything more than a work.

(Remember, Italy's honesty is also a strong proof of China's duplicity: they're on track to surpass China's total death count next week. Either Italians are uniquely, bizarrely succeptible, or China was downplaying their problems by several orders of magnitude.)

Closer to home, there's been a lot of celebration by Canada and Mexico, and predictably, both of them are lying, too. Canada has outbreaks of unknown scope underway in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal; and ol' Mexico City may turn out to be one of the worst hot spots on the continent.

Perhaps Event 201 was a classic Illuminati ritual -- the smirking Revelation of the Method -- but perhaps it was an earnest warning from experienced experts that nobody, anywhere, was prepared for this kind of system shock. "It's our hope that countries will use this to consider where they are strong and where they are weak," as Tom Inglesby put it.

Which is not to say such warnings are charitable, or innocent. There are of course considerations of money and power here; everyone in the "Global Health Security" community expects to receive more of both.

So. We invoke numbers from WHO and CDC because that's the best we have, right? Yet WHO and CDC themselves are also guessing on the basis of the best they have. The difference between WHO officials and the smug pedants on your Facebook feed is the professionals know they're guessing -- and the hall monitors merely know they're right.

"We have to use the information we have," as Van Kerkhove puts it, and this is precisely why information warfare is so effective. Whether or not you find the latest from Global Research to be a convincing case or an inevitable chess move depends on your narrative, your priors and your place in the WW3 ecosystem.

With that in mind, back to the question of forecasting peaks & final acts.

China claims they're past the peak as of March 12th. And for now, no question, they are.

But there's a lot of dubious assumptions & open questions there, especially with mass travel resuming and businesses re-opening. They cannot continue their lockdown, for economic and strategic reasons (and in China, as America, there is essentially no sunlight between the two.) They must attempt to ramp up production back towards something approaching normal. The longer these huge interruptions drag on, the more the world will be changed as a result, and the CPC stands to lose decades of work in the space of a single year.

Yet -- has the virus somehow disappeared in China? Have their people gained some kind of immunity? Is there any guarantee, or even strong evidence, that a second outbreak won't get underway just as soon as public transportation volumes get back to normal? I would venture the answer to all three questions is a resounding "Fuck No."

This is an ugly dilemma, and it cuts to the heart of what Cummings and Vallance are grappling with in the UK. Letting the virus burn through your population without taking sweeping containment measures is not completely insane. If containment only buys you time, and at immense cost, it's essentially a bet that effective vaccines will be available, at scale, by the tail end of the time you've bought. Otherwise you're just headed straight into another outbreak, because all of the available ingredients for that recipe are still on the table.

Further, global pandemics are a great equalizer: nobody's national responses particularly matter in the absence of global coordination. Patchwork lockdowns, piecemeal travel bans, all of this merely serves to fragment the problem. Per WHO's best guess data, the biggest story of the past month is the migration of "epicenter" from China to Europe. That may be in the USA by April 15th.

(So, once again, heavy seasonal variability is currently humankinds last great hope.)

Nature ran a great piece back in the middle of February, asking experts to speculate on "When will the coronavirus outbreak peak?" and it's full of solid gold quotables, starting with the subtitle: "Officials want to know but predictions vary wildly, from now to after hundreds of millions are infected."

And this timeless gem I will, with luck, remember for decades:

“If you revise your predictions every week to say that the outbreak will peak in a week or two, eventually you will be correct,” says Brian Labus, who works on disease surveillance at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

Back in the UK, their wonks are currently projecting the peak in June or July:

Chris Whitty, chief medical officer for England, said he currently expected that the UK would reach the peak of its outbreak in 10 to 14 weeks time.

In Japan, Mitsuo Kaku was more circumspect, but also more transparent about his reasoning:

Q: When do you expect the outbreak to peak, and when do you expect it to end?

MK: SARS was identified in November 2002, and its peak came around March and April 2003. In July of that year it was announced that the spread had ended. If we think about it on the same lines, then the new coronavirus began in around December 2019, and therefore would be expected to peak between April and May 2020, and continue until August.

The chances of it carrying on past summer are low, but we don't know what will happen. I think we'll be able to see whether the current countermeasures were effective by the end of March. It should gradually become clear how long the outbreak will last.

Here in the US, the CIA's paper of record just published an interactive infographic that puts the peak squarely around July 2020, only varying the number of infections (and note that even their top-bound estimate of 9.4 million is far short of what Congress was being told.) Their model, courtesy of David N. Fisman at U Toronto, assumes a CFR of 1.0 and an r0 of 2.3.

Finally, on the prediction market front, even the guy who helped create VIX is in awe of what his famous index is doing.

Via: Mini Mike News

“The level of uncertainty is even beyond what we saw in 2008 immediately after Lehman Brothers collapsed,” Dan Galai, a professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said in a telephone interview.

...

“If you look at 2008, it spiked and then within a day or two, it was going down very fast,” said Galai. “Here, it’s been steadily going up instead of going down. It’s more violent, and it’s more persistent.”

Galai doesn’t see it falling materially until there’s greater visibility on the extent of the fall-out from the epidemic. With authorities coming under fierce criticism for their handling of the public health emergency, there’s no telling when that will be.

“It’s so much different from the global financial crisis because we’ve seen those cycles before,” said Galai. “This time, nobody has any view or any good prediction of the duration and depth of this epidemic. What we see in the VIX is really the reflection of the enormous uncertainty.”

Sheesh.

Things have gotten crazy, right? Been a long year. However, from all available facts, we're still dangling our legs off the edge of the cliff, just ahead of the inflection point where our world and our everyday lives become impossible to recognize. All the precipitous, accelerating insanity we've lived through so far has been, at best, only the beginning of our journey to the center of the coronavirus outbreak.

I joked at the beginning of March that, after spending February desperately trying to convince people they should be far more concerned about this, I would be spending March trying to get people to calm the fuck down. That's mostly proven true; people don't have a lot of gears or gradients between "You're Just Being Paranoid" and "We're All Going To Die."

In closing, I can only recommend that you relax into this. You're not remotely ready for this, but neither is anyone else. Keep talking to your neighbors, keep getting enough sleep, keep enjoying your showers, your meals, and your lives.

[thrulookingglass]

They just closed it all. Here. In my state. Massachusetts, USA. My gym is gone and its like the only joy in my day. Bars closed. Not a total drunkard, but it is St. Patty's day this Tuesday. Fuck.

Unprecedented.

End times?

This isn't normal.

[semper occultus]

hey Wombat thanks for all the hot-takes - so you ( or anyone else ) any view on what's going on in Iran ?

they seem to get hit very hard vs say S Korea around the same time ( seen satellite pics of massive death pits allegedly ) so is that down to sanctions, mishandling by their authorities or anything sinister ?

also seeing stuff about how the Chinese authorities are now going into sealed off buildings to recover the bodies - which presumably haven't been added to any death statistics hitherto

And Italy now saying they caught it from Germany !

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1255506/coronavirus-italy-cases-deaths-uk-germany-angela-merkel-eu-spt

[Wombaticus Rex]

I honestly fail to see how either the US or China deliberately unleashing a bioweapon that absolutely fucks the entire world makes any strategic sense. I don't get it. The working assumption is that Iran got nailed because they're a long-time enemy of the United States, right? So the implication is that the United States hit them.

My working assumption is that the Iran (and Italy) connections are related to BRI - One Belt, One Road Initiative. Not accidentally, that project was networked through America's rivals and America's fading allies. This was the connective tissue.

Interestingly, it's looking like one of the major vectors for a lot of international seeding isn't Wuhan in the Hubei province, but Wenzhou, over in the Zhejiang province. Why is Italy having an outbreak? 90% of their Chinese population are textile workers from Wenzou. (Really.) Why is Iran having an outbreak? There's actually a high speed freight rail line running from nearby Wiwu to Tehran. (Really.) Nothing conclusive, but interesting.

The insight is not mine, I seek and value the opinions of hyper-informed twitter anons. (A lot of those men and women are 'anons' because they would lose their jobs for being honest, after all. Millions of alleged journalists still think Bronze Age Pervert is some kind of closeted gay weirdo!)

The other big factor with Iran's terrible outbreak? Exactly the same as the terrible outbreak that's coming in America or France or anywhere else: their leadership is predominantly a nepotistic aristocracy who deserve none of their power and are no longer capable of even understanding how the sweet fuck they came to have it. They are soft, they are weak. They need to go.

[8bitagent]

Did RI get infected with Covid? Sheesh...I wish there was a discord, reddit, etc group we could migrate over to. Given everyones been banned/left RI and this forum always has "General Error"...., in the past a situation like this would have countless posters and updates, we'd be hundreds of pages deep. Right now https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/new/ seems to be the go to.

Holy fuck. I live in the suburbs. Northern California, starbucks churchy whole foods world. Trader Joes was CLEARED out today as was many other stores I went to. People seem freaked. Of course I was listening to a steady diet of Noam Chomsky, Zizek, Alex Jones, David Icke, Michael Rupert and Naomi Klein in the late 90s-2000s(yes, I know not all of these should be equal) and what's happening is exactly what I expected one day in America and the world. I dont have any guns, but Ive been a prepper and a germaphobe(especially the last couple years) Part of me feels bad for all these people flooding Costco, Tescos, Krogers, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Walmarts in a panic...its like a real life zombie apocalypse, but the zombies are the masses buying up toilet paper.

because of countless businesses in North America and worldwide shutting down, we have to be looking at a 1929 depression on steroids? Very surreal times and it feels like we're barely hitting the abyss. Hey who needs wars to take out governments(like Iran) when they can just be crippled by a pandemic?

Finally tonight, its surreal to see a sad and frail Arnold Schwarzenegger selling the new police state martial law in America. tell everyone that freedom in America is over, to just stay inside. I MISS when this dystopic shit was just the plot of sci fi Arnold movies from the 80s/90s. https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/stat ... gWlGqKQXtQ

[Joe Hillshoist]

Good advice, identity. Thanks.

Joe, you left one out - call the undertaker and arrange for him to take you under or burn you up. Be sure to get a money-back guarantee though; he might expire before fulfiling the contract.

Seriously, be well, Joe and all.

I've stared down more than one 50m wall of flame in the last 6 months, even dropped one on its arse so I'll ride my luck on that one.

You too mate.

[Laodicean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4