Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[identity]

Okay class, this is required reading. Whitney Webb’s latest. One of the only real journalists in the English speaking universe.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/all-roads-lead-dark-winter/?

The Daily Wrap Ups at the site are also worth listening to. Here's the latest:

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/daily-wrap-up/coronavirus-coverup-using-coronavirus-mystery-pneumonia-causing-virus-spread-italy-2019/

[Grizzly]

Fortuitous CEO stock selling and resignations in Jan 2020? Or Ebola and SARS knowledge?”

Certainly worth your time, especially with regards to Jeff Bezo's history as well as a few more players in the game.

[Elvis]

A text came in from the phone provider explaining that they are "supporting" me "during COVID-10 with Unlimited Talk and Text for the month of April."

The minutes I get recently increased to 1,000/mo. which loads automatically around the first of the month. But this time 50,000 minutes. I suppose they get an extra reimbursement for their generosity?

Of course it costs the phone co. nothing to add minutes to your account. Too bad my phone minutes are not transferrable, like air miles.

[identity]

Ten days old, but still worth listening to now:

Chris Knowles & Gordon White – Coronavirus Chaos, Mr. Global, & The Technocratic Plot

https://thehighersidechats.com/chris-knowles-gordon-white-coronavirus-chaos-mr-global-the-technocratic-plot/

[identity]

...And while you're at the THC site, you'll definitely also want to listen to this:

David Crowe - Coronavirus COVID-19: The Risks, The Testing, & The Treatments

https://www.thehighersidechats.com/david-crowe-coronavirus-the-risks-the-testing-the-treatments/

And check out his paper on Coronavirus: https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf

https://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv.php
https://theinfectiousmyth.com

[8bitagent]

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Waiting and seeing doesn't mean we don't keep observing, collecting, and thinking best we can. It also doesn't mean some of us don't call out and also fight (or support fights) against the shit that is visibly and undeniably happening, such as the imposition of violent police states, or the attempted hyperexploitation of the situation by capitalism as usual, or political malfeasance of many kinds, or the total abandonment of people in detained populations, or the impoverishment of whole new groups.

To me, there is far too much undeniable, boldfaced malfeasance occurring every single minute right now in terms of our governments' complete and utter lack of a helpful responses to this crisis (assuming that this is indeed the crisis we have been assured that it is) for me to get too invested in speculating about aspects of this situation that we cannot currently ascertain with certainty.

Even if I imagine I am in a movie and I suspend all my questions about the origins and supposed severity of COVID-19, the events of the movie that have transpired since the initial plot setup make no sense. Almost every rational and helpful response has occurred organically as individuals and small organizations have taken it upon themselves to do whatever they can to help. From the top down, whether at federal, state, or even my own local levels, the response has consisted of letting huge corporations and politically powerful special interests respond to this situation in any way they see fit while using this "crisis" as yet another excuse to hand them trillions. In the meantime, the majority of small businesses have been totally shuttered by law, and the majority of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck have been told only to:

I wonder what the Vegas under/over odds on creepy pedo globalist Joe Biden getting the nom. Even that feeble Joe creature admitted on MSNBCNN that its doubtful the Democrat convention will happen. I just wonder how bad Biden will lose in November, if Biden even makes it til then or if there is actually an election

[Grizzly]

Good lord this video. Like a thoroughbred making a late break in a horse race
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1244119212701990913

Haunting ...

[alloneword]

The BBC yesterday posted this helpful graphic (buried under a ton of fear-porn, but hey, they posted it).



https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654

Imperial College London modelling, used to inform government, has suggested 500,000 could have died by August in the UK if the virus was left to rip through the population.

It also warned the government's previous strategy to slow the spread by asking those with symptoms to self-isolate and shield the most vulnerable could have led to 250,000 deaths.

Now, it is hoped the lockdown will limit deaths to 20,000.

But that does not mean 480,000 lives are being saved - many will die whether or not they get the virus.

Every year, about 600,000 people in the UK die. And the frail and elderly are most at risk, just as they are if they have coronavirus.

Nearly 10% of people aged over 80 will die in the next year, Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter, at the University of Cambridge, points out, and the risk of them dying if infected with coronavirus is almost exactly the same.

I wonder who decided to make it a logarithmic scale?

(I posted an article by Prof Spiegelhalter on 'Risk' last week).

[Belligerent Savant]

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This is good stuff, and in-line with my earlier inquiries a couple or so pages back. It'd be useful to obtain a similar breakdown for the U.S. and other hard-hit nations (Italy, Spain, China, etc.).

Perhaps if we all train our focus, it will be conjured.

[alloneword]

I'm struggling to find decent age distribution stats for anywhere at the moment, BSav.

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Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the ‘at risk’ groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!

https://novuscomms.com/2020/03/31/a-vie ... hn-oxford/

Ha. What would he know?

[DrEvil]

In Norway the average age of the first 42 to die was 83, the youngest was 51 and the oldest 99.

Source (Norwegian Institute of Public Health / Folkehelseinstituttet): https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-dis ... s-COVID19/

The (usually shitty) newspaper VG has an excellent overview with lots of graphics. Unfortunately it's only available in norwegian, but most of it should be easy enough to figure out (døde = dead, smittet = infected, sykehus = hospital, innlagt = in hospital):
https://www.vg.no/spesial/2020/corona/? ... ce=coronav

[identity]

I sincerely hope that everyone here will download and read David Crowe's Coronavirus Panic paper linked to above, if only to get a better grasp on what all these numbers being tossed about like confetti are actually based on. Would love to hear of any obvious errors or oversights in his analysis that hit you in the face like a COVERT-911-contaminated brick!

His paper/book chapter on SARS is also worth reading as background material:
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/SARS.pdf

[Wombaticus Rex]

Crowe is the dude who says germ theory is false and infectious diseases aren't real, right?

[Belligerent Savant]

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[identity]

Crowe is the dude who says germ theory is false and infectious diseases aren't real, right?

Well, his website's name would suggest that he, at the very least, questions the generally accepted way of looking at these things. (WTC 7 is generally believed – by many experts and professionals – to have fallen due to fires caused by falling debris from WTC 1 & 2, but has that stopped any of us here from being less hasty in agreeing with that conclusion?) But rather than simply dismissing his analysis sight unseen because he's an obvious nut or crank, I'd be grateful for a more focused rebuttal of the points raised in his paper regarding how the virus is tested for and what the results signify.