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Elvis » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:09 pm wrote:Someone made the observation that the police are just well-equipped counter-protesters.
nypost.com
Buffalo Emergency Response Team quits in solidarity of cops
By Lia Eustachewich
The entire Buffalo police Emergency Response Team has resigned following the suspension of two officers who were caught on video shoving a 75-year-old protester to the pavement, according to reports Friday.
A total of 57 officers resigned from the emergency team in solidarity with the two suspended cops, who pushed Martin Gugino, causing him to stumble backward and crack his head on the ground, WGRZ reported.
“Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders,” said John Evans, president of the Buffalo Police Benevolent Association.
The special squad was created in 2016 and is deployed for mass protests or riots, the network reported.
The officers who resigned are still employed, just no longer part of the Emergency Response Team, according to WIVB.
Gugino, an activist who is well known in Buffalo, was listed in serious but stable condition.
The shocking video shows blood gushing from his head after he fell.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo said earlier Friday that the city should pursue terminating the two officers, who were suspended immediately by Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown.
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:56 pm wrote:There are definitely cult-like aspects to what is going on. Every revolutionary movement tends towards Red Guards, so how much you see it tends to be a matter of how much you want to see it -- all analysis, like all journalism, is motivated.
Still, it's hard to miss the smell of the secular evangelical ceremonies whereby a herd of crackers take to their knees, raise their hands into the air, and seek absolution for their white privilege. Something is afoot there.
Speaking of motivated analysis, I was utterly unmoved by the early attempts at .jpg phrenology asserting that that Derek Chauvin who was arrested wasn't the real Derek Chavin. I've just spent too much time doing photo / video analysis with money on the line, I know how easy it is for angles and foreshortening to confound your read.
So it really bothers me to have to report this latest juxtaposition really makes me wonder. Photo attached.
0_0 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:37 pm wrote:the cynical slogans of #blacklivesmatter and #icantbreath.
JackRiddler » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:36 am wrote:Was anyone here talking about cults, by the way?
Note: The video of the Buffalo incident in the following story gives a wider angle and goes on for much longer than the one that's been most widely diseminated.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/05/buffalo-e ... y-of-cops/nypost.com
Buffalo Emergency Response Team quits in solidarity of cops
By Lia Eustachewich
The entire Buffalo police Emergency Response Team has resigned following the suspension of two officers who were caught on video shoving a 75-year-old protester to the pavement, according to reports Friday.
A total of 57 officers resigned from the emergency team in solidarity with the two suspended cops, who pushed Martin Gugino, causing him to stumble backward and crack his head on the ground, WGRZ reported.
“Fifty-seven resigned in disgust because of the treatment of two of their members, who were simply executing orders,” said John Evans, president of the Buffalo Police Benevolent Association.
The special squad was created in 2016 and is deployed for mass protests or riots, the network reported.
The officers who resigned are still employed, just no longer part of the Emergency Response Team, according to WIVB.
Gugino, an activist who is well known in Buffalo, was listed in serious but stable condition.
The shocking video shows blood gushing from his head after he fell.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo said earlier Friday that the city should pursue terminating the two officers, who were suspended immediately by Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown.
Solidarity!
0_0 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:37 am wrote:I think Brekin hit the nail on the head with his post earlier. Either coronavirus is a pandemic so deadly we need to fundamentally change our way of life or it isn't (personally i think it's the latter).
If it's a deadly pandemic all the mainstream media, politicians and big corporations now egging people on to gather in large groups and shout their lungs out are provoking a genocide among vulnerable minorities under the cynical slogans of #blacklivesmatter and #icantbreath. If it's not a deadly pandemic all the (same) media, politicians and big corporations that were coercing people to stay at home and self-isolate for the last three months have terrorized the people (in some cases literally to death i suspect) and ruined the economy without valid reasons under the cynical slogans of #savinglives and #strongtogether.
Both events showed ritualistic cultlike elements, from washing your hands to taking a knee.
0_0 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:06 pm wrote:i probably couldnt't and i suppose you'd be okay with that
PufPuf93 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:19 pm wrote:Kindly 0_0, you are perhaps too black and white in thinking and have not thought about the concept of risk. This and future potential or future pandemics exists in a state of gray between your two extremes (until of course we hit a truly human extinction event over relatively short time frame pandemic likely occurring with other extreme stressors). The nature of a novel virus with high potential for death and morbidity is that society has to treat it as worse case until the virus is proven not as dangerous or otherwise ebbs. So if mitigations are effective or if we just luck out, the tendency for many will be to perceive or sell the perception that there was an over reaction. The worse case or even very bad cases have low probability but their potential is such that society does not want exposure to such risk (which in fact mitigations may be futile). Think the insurance concept.
The media, MSM anyway. is never on the side of human masses; the media is pandering or grooming and entertainment, not on the side of the individual except filling time.
liminalOyster » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:17 pm wrote:I sincerely don't follow your response. It's probably my own fault. But regardless who has attempted to appropriate these slogans, there is no dispute, best I can tell, that both began as part of social movements (all caveats about how complex the whole organism and its constituent actors acknowledged but temporarily set aside.) I can't breathe, in particular, is literally a repetition of a phrase that first uttered by crowds as a repeat of the desperation experienced by a man being murdered. It matters that Nike and Amazon and probably fucking WalMart and Target and whomever else thinks they can just say these things too to appease the masses. But it's simply wrong (not ethical, compassionate or humane) to essentially dismiss the literal millions of people in the street as sheeple. Who knows, maybe (as NIck Land recently tweeted and made me snicker), part of this is about the human race unconsciously choosing herd immunity. But then IIRC, that's what you've advocated all along, no?
0_0 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:37 pm wrote:If it's a deadly pandemic all the mainstream media, politicians and big corporations now egging people on to gather in large groups and shout their lungs out
Law Enforcement Seized Masks Meant To Protect Anti-Racist Protesters From COVID-19
WASHINGTON ― Law enforcement agents have seized hundreds of cloth masks that read “Stop killing Black people” and “Defund police” that a Black Lives Matter-affiliated organization sent to cities around the country to protect demonstrators against the spread of COVID-19, a disease that has had a disparate impact on Black communities.
The Movement for Black Lives (M4BL) spent tens of thousands of dollars on the masks they had planned to send all over the country. The first four boxes, each containing 500 masks, were mailed from Oakland, California, and were destined for Washington, St. Louis, New York City and Minneapolis...
But the items never left the state. The U.S. Postal Service tracking numbers for the packages indicate they were “Seized by Law Enforcement” and urge the mailer to “contact the U.S. Postal Inspection Service for further information.”
... [Post office] guys know that I ship apparel,” Quinonez said. “There was nothing out of the ordinary.”
Now he’s wondering if the government is watching him or watching the Black Lives Matter movement. “I just don’t understand it. It’s just really blowing my mind,” he said.
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-li ... yMPHUwHhiw
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