Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

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Who will be the actual Democratic candidate?

Sen. Harris
3
12%
Sen. Klobuchar
0
No votes
Sen. Warren
1
4%
Stacey Abrams
1
4%
Michelle Obama
4
16%
Secretary Clinton
4
16%
Gov. Whitmer
1
4%
Other VP candidate (click this and specify below)
3
12%
Brokered convention surprise: Other (click and specify)
3
12%
Rope-a-dope: Biden implodes, Sanders re-emerges
5
20%
 
Total votes : 25

Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby liminalOyster » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:45 pm

Extremely helpful and on-point write-up, Wombat. I think you're a tad too scathing about anarchists en masse. I'm not lauding Crimethinc or the grotesque trappings of boutique anarchism but I do think there is, at this time, a more noble and rigorous engaged anarchist (or just sincerely Left) sensibility emerging than what you describe here. I suppose I would have said that back in 2011 too though.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:49 am

Comrade Brezhnev has recovered from his cold.

He has never been more fit.

Biden’s V.P. Pick Is Said to Be Imminent
Joe Biden’s advisers are planning an announcement for the middle of the week as his search concludes, people briefed on the selection process said.

By Katie Glueck, Alexander Burns and Jonathan Martin

Aug. 10, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/us/p ... -pick.html

WILMINGTON, Del. — Joseph R. Biden Jr. has told allies that he has interviewed every finalist in his vice-presidential search, and his advisers are planning an announcement for the middle of the week, people briefed on the selection process said on Monday.

In a sign that the choice is now in Mr. Biden’s hands alone, the four-member committee that screened his potential running mates is said to have effectively disbanded — its work is complete, Biden allies said, and there is little left to do except for Mr. Biden to make up his mind.

Mr. Biden’s political team has prepared rollout plans for several of the finalists, and he is expected to announce his decision as soon as Tuesday, though more Democrats expect it to come on Wednesday. The former vice president, however, has not been known for his punctuality so far in the presidential race and the timeline could well slip again.

Mr. Biden has spoken with the vice-presidential candidates through a combination of in-person sessions and remote meetings over the last few weeks, but the exact timing and circumstances of all of the meetings are not clear. Close advisers to Mr. Biden said he had been directly in touch with all of the leading candidates.

Some of the strongest contenders have been Senator Kamala Harris of California; Susan Rice, the former national security adviser; Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts; and Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, who met with Mr. Biden on Aug. 2. Mr. Biden and his team have also closely considered Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico and Representatives Karen Bass of California and Val Demings of Florida.

All of them were interviewed by Mr. Biden’s search team, a panel of advisers and party luminaries informally led by former Senator Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut.

[...]



So much bullshit.

Anyway, I'm going to win this bet.

Michigan Democrats Hesitate on Whitmer as V.P.: ‘Selfishly, We Need Her Here’
She is suddenly on Joe Biden’s shortlist. Can Michigan afford to lose her?

By Kathleen Gray
Aug. 10, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/us/p ... higan.html

WEST BLOOMFIELD, Mich. — With Joseph R. Biden Jr. expected to announce his choice of running mate in the coming days, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan has suddenly joined the pack of leading contenders in the home stretch — a turn that has some Democrats in the state excited, but has left others concerned about how they, and Michigan, might fare without her.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/us/p ... higan.html


*snarf* "Suddenly."

How will they fare?!

The supposed committee...

Chris Dodd, an Insider From Biden’s Past, Is Helping Him Pick His Future
As Biden works to win over progressive voters, he has empowered a Washington uber-veteran long trailed by allegations of personal and financial indiscretion.

(Aug 8, 2020)

[...]

Of the four co-chairs on Mr. Biden’s selection committee — which also includes Representative Lisa Blunt Rochester of Delaware, Mayor Eric Garcetti of Los Angeles and Cynthia Hogan, a former Biden aide — Mr. Dodd is viewed by many in the party as a kind of first among equals.

[...]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/08/us/p ... -dodd.html


No idea if some or all of them are part of the real Biden Handlers Committee, or just how ad-hoc the Joe Management is at this stage. Whoever's on the team, I'm guessing what they are all thinking is, no matter how much they manage and coach and massage, they're going to have to let him speak the words himself.

Or maybe it's all Deep Fake at this point?

In other "news," Larry Summers has been sent back to the Kitchen Cabinet. I don't know if Bloomberg's outfit got the big campaign contract they were angling for.

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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby Elvis » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:51 am

Whitmer may be as good as it gets, considering that a chief requirement for any running mate is they oppose single-payer healthcare.

I saw Condi Rice mentioned again, by a stranger on Twitter. 8) At this point I'd be surprised, and appalled (but of course gratified by a correct long-odds prediction).

Had some pushback from Clinton-Obama Democrat friends about my abundant criticisms of Susan Rice. Excuses, excuses, "multilateralism" etc.; admitted very hard to critique anyone without "helping Trump."

What can one do but speculate, ramble and heckle?

I voted! :bigsmile
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:45 am

Elvis » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:51 am wrote:Whitmer may be as good as it gets, considering that a chief requirement for any running mate is they oppose single-payer healthcare.

I saw Condi Rice mentioned again, by a stranger on Twitter. 8) At this point I'd be surprised, and appalled (but of course gratified by a correct long-odds prediction).

Had some pushback from Clinton-Obama Democrat friends about my abundant criticisms of Susan Rice. Excuses, excuses, "multilateralism" etc.; admitted very hard to critique anyone without "helping Trump."

What can one do but speculate, ramble and heckle?

I voted! :bigsmile


Is anyone doubting its Kamala at this point? Liberal media was all over talking about the "pure criminality' in Chicago today. Certainly helps set the stage to absolve Kamala's prosecutorial record in the interest of "law and order." Not to mention the hangout of umbrella man and mass reveal of provocateurs - who better than a tough black legal type to bring down a discerning hammer of justice? /s
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:40 am

I'm risking everything! My Facebook reputation!

LET'S BET!

According to the Official Record, Comrade Brezhnev, having recovered from his cold... wait, sorry, um, Good Old Man Joe, making this decision all by himself, which no one can predict ever ever ever what's on his mavericky mind, suddenly met Gretchen Whitmer last week, surprising the whole wide universe, none of whom ever conceived of seeing it coming.

Sure, sure, yeah yeah, Warren is in the final four. See? Progressive! And Rice and Harris. (As if, the latter.) This is their idea of coalition building. Just send a signal out that you gave the a thought, and they will vote for you. No messy promises, no programs. It's that easy.

If it's a Rice it will be Condoleezza. Seriously. The Bush Mob, Redux Edition, the old war-making neocon leftovers Forever War criminals, and the failed McCain Consultants Club who do business as "The Lincoln Project," have their tentacles all the way into the establishment Democrats' ideological brainstem. No doubt.

But okay, this decision is being made by some ad-hoc home team, a Biden Handlers' Committee (BHC) in concentric circles of senior aides (literally), Obama crew, money men, and, off on the side, dessicated "liberal" Wall Street swamp things a la Dimon-Bloomberg waiting to pick their cabinet posts ambassadorships. Hey, they're going to pay for it! Stop complaining. All that matters is Trump out, etc. etc.

Remember, whoever it is will be fronting as your president next year.

I mean, she will be, if Kayfabe Hitler 666 Team 4-Evah somehow fail to steal it, as they are bragging about doing fifty different ways, every day. (If it happens, god forbid, pay no attention to the massive state-level election rigging and racist voter suppression that have determined elections for 20 years. The blame will always be on "Russia." Bots. They have nasty bots saying untrue things. On Facebook.)

My prediction from the first was that the BHC will choose a perky, right-wing, Midwestern White Lady. Since Klobuchar removed herself, or was removed, that means Whitmer, who is "suddenly" on the short list.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby liminalOyster » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:25 pm

And the deed is done.

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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:11 pm

Well, so much for my rational-calculating triangulating ass.

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Postby liminalOyster » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:54 pm

I think I switched to her after Klobuchar crashed. But it was too late in the game to be a winner. I'm curious who called it, too.
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Postby Elvis » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:26 pm

I did breathe a small sigh of relief that it wasn't Rice (or for that matter, Rice).

I wonder what they've 'got' on Harris.
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Re: Pool: Who Is the Actual Democratic Candidate?

Postby overcoming hope » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:59 pm

overcoming hope » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:37 am wrote:my guess is for Harris seems like a team player, but mainly my guess is because she was one of the first to drop out.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... ala-harris

The former vice president responded in kind, praising Harris for running a “helluva race” and reminding attendees that “we go back a long way,” a reference to Harris’ friendship with Biden’s late son, Beau. Harris was California’s attorney general at the same time that Beau Biden held the post in Delaware.

Seemingly teasing the running mate chatter, Biden added: “I’m so lucky to have you be a part of this partnership going forward. Working together, we can make a great deal of progress. ... I’m coming for you, kid.”
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Postby Elvis » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:52 am

going forward :ohno:
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Postby liminalOyster » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:53 am

Shaun King tweeted tonight that Kamala is the "most progressive" VP in US history. Hehe.
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Postby Grizzly » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:06 pm

California and Bank of America trial run empty ATMs.
California Orange County has pushed back against Gov. Newsom’s Covid lockdowns.

Appears Governor and Bank of America cracked down on OC rebellion by emptying ATM machines of cash.


https://archive.is/k3ELR


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Senator Kamala Harris is making the case for Congress to adopt her priorities for the next stimulus package, including $2,000 monthly stimulus checks and student loan forgiveness.


That's right! bribe payers index....Bribe the desperate, useless eaters people!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribe_Payers_Index

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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:07 pm

liminalOyster » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:53 am wrote:Shaun King tweeted tonight that Kamala is the "most progressive" VP in US history. Hehe.


Saw it, juxtaposed with an earlier tweet that the two candidates who would make him consider not voting for the Democrats were Biden and Harris.

I guess that settles a debate about his role, in which I thought until now he was being treated very unfairly. It's a clarifying moment.
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Postby stickdog99 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:38 pm

What do I win?

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