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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:24 am

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mentalgongfu2 » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:55 pm wrote:
Where are all the virtue-signaling assholes telling the DOCTORS how they're killing GRANDMA??


What are you doing to combat the scourge of medical malpractice?



For one, i'm being far more selective about my health choices, including my diet. I keep myself active and take in the natural elements as often as possible, and perform proper due diligence whenever there's a need to visit a doctor, aiming to obtain 2nd (or 3rd) opinions if/when needed. I've relayed the same, when appropriate, to family, friends and others, both online and in-person. But ultimately it's their (hopefully informed) choice, right?

In any event, the larger point is numbers and statistics will invariably be used by media and 'spokespersons' to frighten and mislead. Each of us have the responsibility to apply proper discernment and critical thinking so as not to allow ourselves, collectively, to be taken in by such tactics, especially if it may lead to changes in policies, civil liberties, and standard quality of life.

The fools blaring about maskless humans killing 'grandma' are making it worse, not better. Because they've allowed themselves to be passive robots taking in data without a filtering mechanism. They've allowed themselves to be easily controlled and manipulated consumers, to the detriment of the majority.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:43 am

The analysis of social response to virus is poor, though, when you ignore the conditions in which the social response takes shape. I think it's a willful ignorance which leaves a gaping hole in the analysis. To say virus is catalyst, or propaganda is catalyst, and therefore cause of social ills can't be taken seriously by anyone who sees the gigantic hole you are willfully ignoring.

Like, your society has been piling up dead wood, dry kindling for a very long time. The lit match is the catalyst, but it clearly isn't the cause of the fire.

If your society is watery, the match would do nothing. Also if your society was already on fire. The match would be meaningless.

Instead of facing it, you complain that your society has suddenly started burning, like magic. And pine for the days when you all happily built the big pyre in harmony, like happy ants building a hill of sand.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:24 pm

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That's a misframing/mischaracterization of the issue. While I appreciate your broad point, and do not discount it, it assumes those (at least in RI) that have raised legitimate alarm regarding current egregious acts against humanity aren't already aware of these historical, fundamental issues/flaws in the system.

We are focusing on the fire currently raging. This needs to be extinguished, first. We can then get back to addressing other ills. This has already been conveyed here a few times.

Generally, I appreciate your side-bar perspectives, regardless of my level of agreement (and certainly, you don't post here to obtain 'consensus agreement'), but there are times you mimic the output of a 'derailleur'. I presume this is purely a function of your idiosyncrasies, but sometimes I wonder.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:29 pm

No, I am completely derailing your narrative. That is my function on threads like this.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Karmamatterz » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:47 pm

The Covidian Cult (Part II)

https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/22/the ... t-part-ii/

If you want to read part 1 here is the link:
https://consentfactory.org/2020/10/13/t ... dian-cult/

Back in October of 2020, I wrote an essay called The Covidian Cult, in which I described the so-called “New Normal” as a global totalitarian ideological movement. Developments over the last six months have borne out the accuracy of that analogy.

A full year after the initial roll-out of the utterly horrifying and completely fictional photos of people dropping dead in the streets, the projected 3.4% death rate, and all the rest of the official propaganda, despite the absence of any actual scientific evidence of an apocalyptic plague (and the abundance of evidence to the contrary), millions of people continue to behave like members of an enormous death cult, walking around in public with medical-looking masks, robotically repeating vacuous platitudes, torturing children, the elderly, the disabled, demanding that everyone submit to being injected with dangerous experimental “vaccines,” and just generally acting delusional and psychotic.

How did we ever get to this point … to the point where, as I put it in The Covidian Cult, “instead of the cult existing as an island within the dominant culture, the cult has become the dominant culture, and those of us who have not joined the cult have become the isolated islands within it?”

To understand this, one needs to understand how cults control the minds of their members, because totalitarian ideological movements operate more or less the same way, just on a much larger, societal scale. There is a wealth of research and knowledge on this subject (I mentioned Robert J. Lifton in my earlier essay), but, to keep things simple, I’ll just use Margaret Singer’s “Six Conditions of Mind Control” from her 1995 book, Cults in Our Midst, as a lens to view the Covidian Cult through.


It goes onto list 6 conditions of mind control:

1. Keep the person unaware of what is going on and how she or he is being changed a step at a time. Potential new members are led, step by step, through a behavioral-change program without being aware of the final agenda or full content of the group.

2. Control the person’s social and/or physical environment; especially control the person’s time.

3. Systematically create a sense of powerlessness in the person.

4. Manipulate a system of rewards, punishments and experiences in such a way as to inhibit behavior that reflects the person’s former social identity.

5. Manipulate a system of rewards, punishments, and experiences in order to promote learning the group’s ideology or belief system and group-approved behaviors. Good behavior, demonstrating an understanding and acceptance of the group’s beliefs, and compliance are rewarded, while questioning, expressing doubts or criticizing are met with disapproval, redress and possible rejection. If one expresses a question, they are made to feel that there is something inherently wrong with them to be questioning.

6. Put forth a closed system of logic and an authoritarian structure that permits no feedback and refuses to be modified except by leadership approval or executive order. The group has a top-down, pyramid structure. The leaders must have verbal ways of never losing.


All six of those elements are currently present and functioning at a high level in the U.S. in relation to the artificial crisis.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:36 pm

dada wrote:No, I am completely derailing your narrative. That is my function on threads like this.


The three R's. Reactionary Robotic Repsonse. I know you think that you are in communication with the Higher Self but you're actually on hold with Gods Answering Service, also known as the Default Ruling Organising Principle. Letting go is always the hardest thing. :wink
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:40 pm

If you say so!

Get it?
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Postby Harvey » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:44 pm

I emphatically do not have it. Get it?
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Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 pm

I meant that my saying "if you say so" was another of those robotic responses which I guess that I'm supposed to understand are bad.

Actually I have some thoughts on topics totally unrelated to current events that have been processing for a while, I'm just waiting for the bell to ring, letting me know they are ready to eat. All this other stuff is just chit chat while I wait, I'm half paying attention.

But I'm certainly not thinking that I'm in contact with higher intelligence or whatever. That isn't how it works for me. When the rabbit wants to talk, the rabbit phone rings, and I answer it. Also, my rabbit doesn't have an answering service.
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Postby Harvey » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm

dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:55 pm wrote:Also, my rabbit doesn't have an answering service.


How could you know?

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Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:21 pm

Because he doesn't exist, so he doesn't need one.

And I don't mean that in some dramtically nihilistic way. He knows he doesn't exist. All the good ones do.

But he doesn't look like the svankmejery rabbits in your photo. Bit creepy, if you ask me. More like a fuzzy moon rabbit.
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Postby dada » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:50 pm

Anyway, I won't be around here forever. Maybe it's best that once this handful of things I'm processing come to fruition, I get out of Rigorous Intuition's pretty hair. Then it can get all back to normal. Doing whatever it is you people do around here when I'm not around, unencumbered by the shadow of my weirding ways. Within the space of a month, maybe less, it will be as if I were never here at all. Just the way it goes, I know how it is. I only ask you bear with my outrageous, offensive-just-by-living presence a bit longer.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:02 am

"those (at least in RI) that have raised legitimate alarm regarding current egregious acts against humanity are already aware of these historical, fundamental issues/flaws in the system. We are focusing on the fire currently raging. This needs to be extinguished, first. We can then get back to addressing other ills. This has already been conveyed here a few times."

I don't think you and your "we" fully appreciate what the fundamental in "fundamental flaws" means. If you did, I think you would understand better why this kind of pretense to logic looks so silly to me.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:24 am

Harvey, I feel that by the implication that I'm derailing, coupled with the list of troll behaviors, was belsav's way of accusing me of trolling. Since I'm not a troll, I shrugged off the accusation with a flippant response. That you then felt the need not only to criticize the, in my opinion, totally-warranted-in-the-context flippant response, but to do so by projecting your personal assumptions about my relation to higher power, I guess I find it a bit disturbing.

Not that disturbing, though. But I thought you should know how I feel about the exchange.
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