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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:22 am

Joe Hillshoist » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:13 am wrote:
Belligerent Savant » 04 Jun 2021 05:14 wrote:^^^^^

indeed.


By the way, was there a 'pandemic' in Sweden in 2017-2018?

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There were severe outbreaks of h3n2 influenza around the world in 2017/18. Its the same flu varient that caused the 1967/68 pandemics. In Australia the death rate from flu was about three times higher than the previous year.


Right. And yet no mandates or lockdowns in 2017-2018. NO fearporn. No blatant propaganda. Somehow humans, for the most part, carried on with barely any notice.

2017-2018: no propaganda
2020-2021: an onslaught of fearporn and blatant propaganda, leading to massive unprecedented transfer of wealth, heightened control measures and ongoing policy changes (proposed or enacted).
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Kulldorff

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:11 pm

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In Anglosphere such views are still relegated to the right-wing pubs and thus pre-discredited. People have learned a vulgar version of "consider the source" wherein no distinction is made between publication, author, argument, sources used, or often involuntary association with others who are different but are assigned to the same package of views in the consensus sorting.

More than a year since he (and many) spoke out I don't see that events have falsified any of the major points below.

Expect lockdown policy as implemented has caused more loss of life than it has prevented.

Original has many hotlinks.

www.spiked-online.com
Why I spoke out against lockdowns
Martin Kulldorff

4th June 2021
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/0 ... lockdowns/

I had no choice but to speak out against lockdowns. As a public-health scientist with decades of experience working on infectious-disease outbreaks, I couldn’t stay silent. Not when basic principles of public health are thrown out of the window. Not when the working class is thrown under the bus. Not when lockdown opponents were thrown to the wolves. There was never a scientific consensus for lockdowns. That balloon had to be popped.

Two key Covid facts were quickly obvious to me. First, with the early outbreaks in Italy and Iran, this was a severe pandemic that would eventually spread to the rest of the world, resulting in many deaths. That made me nervous. Second, based on the data from Wuhan, in China, there was a dramatic difference in mortality by age, with over a thousand-fold difference between the young and the old. That was a huge relief. I am a single father with a teenager and five-year-old twins. Like most parents, I care more about my children than myself. Unlike the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, children had much less to fear from Covid than from annual influenza or traffic accidents. They could get on with life unharmed — or so I thought.

For society at large, the conclusion was obvious. We had to protect older, high-risk people while younger low-risk adults kept society moving.

But that didn’t happen. Instead, schools closed while nursing homes went unprotected. Why? It made no sense. So, I picked up a pen. To my surprise, I could not interest any US media in my thoughts, despite my knowledge and experience with infectious-disease outbreaks. I had more success in my native Sweden, with op-eds in the major daily newspapers, and, eventually, a piece in spiked. Other like-minded scientists faced similar hurdles.

Instead of understanding the pandemic, we were encouraged to fear it. Instead of life, we got lockdowns and death. We got delayed cancer diagnoses, worse cardiovascular-disease outcomes, deteriorating mental health, and a lot more collateral public-health damage from lockdown. Children, the elderly and the working class were the hardest hit by what can only be described as the biggest public-health fiasco in history.

Throughout the 2020 spring wave, Sweden kept daycare and schools open for every one of its 1.8million children aged between one and 15. And it did so without subjecting them to testing, masks, physical barriers or social distancing. This policy led to precisely zero Covid deaths in that age group, while teachers had a Covid risk similar to the average of other professions. The Swedish Public Health Agency reported these facts in mid-June, but in the US lockdown proponents still pushed for school closures.

In July, the New England Journal of Medicine published an article on ‘reopening primary schools during the pandemic’. Shockingly, it did not even mention the evidence from the only major Western country that kept schools open throughout the pandemic. That is like evaluating a new drug while ignoring data from the placebo control group.

Martin Kulldorff, a professor of medicine at Harvard University.
Martin Kulldorff, a professor of medicine at Harvard University.

With difficulty publishing, I decided to use my mostly dormant Twitter account to get the word out. I searched for tweets about schools and replied with a link to the Swedish study. A few of these replies were retweeted, which gave the Swedish data some attention. It also led to an invitation to write for the Spectator. In August, I finally broke into the US media with a CNN op-ed against school closures. I know Spanish, so I wrote a piece for CNN-Español. CNN-English was not interested.

Something was clearly amiss with the media. Among infectious-disease epidemiology colleagues that I know, most favour focused protection of high-risk groups instead of lockdowns, but the media made it sound like there was a scientific consensus for general lockdowns.

In September, I met Jeffrey Tucker at the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER), an organisation I had never heard of before the pandemic. To help the media gain a better understanding of the pandemic, we decided to invite journalists to meet with infectious-disease epidemiologists in Great Barrington, New England, to conduct more in-depth interviews. I invited two scientists to join me, Sunetra Gupta from the University of Oxford, one of the world’s pre-eminent infectious-disease epidemiologists, and Jay Bhattacharya from Stanford University, an expert on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations. To the surprise of AIER, the three of us also decided to write a declaration arguing for focused protection instead of lockdowns. We called it the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD).

Opposition to lockdowns had been deemed unscientific. When scientists spoke out against lockdowns, they were ignored, considered a fringe voice, or accused of not having proper credentials. We thought it would be hard to ignore something authored by three senior infectious-disease epidemiologists from what were three respectable universities. We were right. All hell broke loose. That was good.

Some colleagues threw epithets at us like ‘crazy’, ‘exorcist’, ‘mass murderer’ or ‘Trumpian’. Some accused us of taking a stand for money, though nobody paid us a penny. Why such a vicious response? The declaration was in line with the many pandemic preparedness plans produced years earlier, but that was the crux. With no good public-health arguments against focused protection, they had to resort to mischaracterisation and slander, or else admit they had made a terrible, deadly mistake in their support of lockdowns.

Some lockdown proponents accused us of raising a strawman, as lockdowns had worked and were no longer needed. Just a few weeks later, the same critics lauded the reimposition of lockdowns during the very predictable second wave. We were told that we had not specified how to protect the old, even though we had described ideas in detail on our website and in op-eds. We were accused of advocating a ‘let it rip’ strategy, even though focused protection is its very opposite. Ironically, lockdowns are a dragged-out form of a let-it-rip strategy, in which each age group is infected in the same proportion as a let-it-rip strategy.

When writing the declaration, we knew we were exposing ourselves to attacks. That can be scary, but as Rosa Parks said: ‘I have learned over the years that when one’s mind is made up, this diminishes fear; knowing what must be done does away with fear.’ Also, I did not take the journalistic and academic attacks personally, however vile – and most came from people I had never even heard of before. The attacks were not primarily addressed at us anyhow. We had already spoken out and would continue to do so. Their main purpose was to discourage other scientists from speaking out.

In my twenties, I risked my life in Guatemala working for a human-rights organisation called Peace Brigades International. We protected farmers, unionised workers, students, religious organisations, women’s groups and human-rights defenders who were threatened, murdered, and disappeared by military death squads. While the courageous Guatemalans I worked with faced much more danger, the death squads did once throw a hand grenade into our house. If I could do that work then, why should I not now take much smaller risks for people here at home? When I was falsely accused of being a Koch-funded right-winger, I just shrugged – typical behaviour by both establishment servants and armchair revolutionaries.

After the Great Barrington Declaration, there was no longer a lack of media attention on focused protection as an alternative to lockdowns. On the contrary, requests came from across the globe. I noticed an interesting contrast. In the US and UK, media outlets were either friendly with softball questions or hostile with trick questions and ad hominem attacks. Journalists in most other countries asked hard but relevant and fair questions, exploring and critically examining the Great Barrington Declaration. I think that is how journalism should be done.

While most governments continued with their failed lockdown policies, things have moved in the right direction. More and more schools have reopened, and Florida rejected lockdowns in favour of focused protection, partly based on our advice, without the negative consequences that the lockdowners predicted.

Credit: Getty.
Credit: Getty.

With the lockdown failures increasingly clear, attacks and censorship have increased rather than decreased: Google-owned YouTube censored a video from a roundtable with Florida governor Ron DeSantis, where my colleagues and I stated that children do not need to wear masks; Facebook closed the GBD account when we posted a pro-vaccine message arguing that older people should be prioritised for vaccination; Twitter censored a post when I said that children and those already infected do not need to be vaccinated; and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) removed me from a vaccine-safety working group when I argued that the Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine should not be withheld from older Americans.

Twitter even locked my account for writing that:

‘Naively fooled to think that masks would protect them, some older high-risk people did not socially distance properly, and some died from Covid because of it. Tragic. Public-health officials/scientists must always be honest with the public.’

This increased pressure may seem counterintuitive, but it is not. Had we been wrong, our scientific colleagues might have taken pity on us and the media would have gone back to ignoring us. Being correct means that we embarrassed some immensely powerful people in politics, journalism, big tech and science. They are never going to forgive us.

That is not what matters, though. The pandemic has been a great tragedy. A 79-year-old friend of mine died from Covid, and a few months later his wife died from cancer that was not detected in time to initiate treatment. While deaths are inevitable during a pandemic, the naive but mistaken belief that lockdowns would protect the old meant that governments did not implement many standard focused-protection measures. The dragged-out pandemic made it harder for older people to protect themselves. With a focused-protection strategy, my friend and his wife might be alive today, together with countless other people around the world.

Ultimately, lockdowns protected young low-risk professionals working from home – journalists, lawyers, scientists, and bankers – on the backs of children, the working class and the poor. In the US, lockdowns are the biggest assault on workers since segregation and the Vietnam War. Except for war, there are few government actions during my life that have imposed more suffering and injustice on such a large scale.

As an infectious-disease epidemiologist, I had no choice. I had to speak up. If not, why be a scientist? Many others who bravely spoke could comfortably have stayed silent. If they had, more schools would still be closed, and the collateral public-health damage would have been greater. I am aware of many fantastic people fighting against these ineffective and damaging lockdowns, writing articles, posting on social media, making videos, talking to friends, speaking up at school board meetings, and protesting in the streets. If you are one of them, it has truly been an honour to work with you on this effort together. I hope that we will one day meet in person and then, let’s dance together. Danser encore!

Martin Kulldorff is a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:29 pm

^^^
Covid-19 was the greatest wealth transfer in history


It is now clear that what did the most damage was not the virus itself, but rather the choice not to take it seriously. Instead of an immediate lockdown, we hesitated because we were afraid of stopping the economy. But this fear is due to the fact that our economy was never designed for our collective well-being.

Gradually, politicians have become managers and the state has become a technocracy. The entrepreneurs, by paying us as little as possible for the work we do for them, have absorbed an enormous amount of wealth from the production system. But if we try to take back this wealth with taxes, many businessmen will flee to foreign markets. And the so-called engine of the economy will go away with them.

The government could nationalize the bankrupt companies. However, nationalization is often fought back because it is considered inefficient: there would be no competition between private individuals and everything would be slower. And a country that is labeled inefficient receives no foreign investment.

People are afraid of lockdowns because they know that they always end with a transfer of wealth.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:02 am

The FBI's Strange Anthrax Investigation Sheds Light on COVID Lab-Leak Theory and Fauci's Emails
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-fbis-strange-anthrax-investigation

Mainstream institutions doubted the FBI had solved the 2001 anthrax case. Either way, revelations that emerged about U.S. Government bio-labs have newfound relevance.


:shock:


Bonus

For over 16 years scientists have been sounding the alarm on the post 9/11 redirection of resources to GoF research.
https://wi.mit.edu/news/battle-over-biodefense
"Ebright, a laboratory director at the university’s Waksman Institute of Microbiology, is one of the most outspoken critics of the biodefense program. He worries that the biodefense effort will lead to an unnecessary excess of infectious-disease lab space and increase the risk of an intentional or accidental release of a deadly pathogen.

In addition to the new BL-4 facilities at the new National Biocontainment Laboratories in Boston and Galveston, Ebright notes that construction on other high-risk labs is planned in Hamilton, Montana, at the NIAID Rocky Mountain Laboratory; in Fort Detrick, Maryland, with new labs there for the Defense Department, NIAID, and the Department of Homeland Security; and also in Atlanta, Georgia, for the CDC."
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Monk » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:07 am

"The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?"

The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted lives the world over for more than a year. Its death toll will soon reach three million people. Yet the origin of pandemic remains uncertain: The political agendas of governments and scientists have generated thick clouds of obfuscation, which the mainstream press seems helpless to dispel.

In what follows I will sort through the available scientific facts, which hold many clues as to what happened, and provide readers with the evidence to make their own judgments. I will then try to assess the complex issue of blame, which starts with, but extends far beyond, the government of China.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Marionumber1 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:07 pm

Interesting to see Greenwald bringing up the 2001 anthrax attacks, as they are a fitting parallel to what's coming out now about COVID. One thing I will say is that I've long suspected Steven Hatfill may have genuinely been involved (not alone, of course), and was put forth as an early fall guy. His resume screams spook, and that includes working for white supremacist governments in Africa. Hatfill was also a close colleague of Jerome Hauer, a key 9/11 suspect. And when Sander Hicks asked Hauer whether he thought Hatfill was innocent, Hauer was somewhat equivocal (New York Megaphone, "THE REAL SPITZER SCANDAL", 2007 fall):

In his interview with The Megaphone, Hauer repeatedly referred to the Grand Jury as “a bunch of nutjobs” and he defended Steven Hatfill. But when asked directly if Hatfill was innocent, Hauer was less than clear:

“I think that the FBI should not have said anything about Hatfill until they knew more. I do not believe Hatfill is a murderer. And I think Steve Hatfill is very passionate, but I don’t think he’s a murderer, and I don’t believe he did it.”

Hauer was not willing to conclusively say that Hatfill was uninvolved in the anthrax attacks, stating, “I’m not going to get into those details.”


I also wanted to point everyone to a 90s dossier publicized last year about a terror network called the White Eagle Underground. Led by top-level military and intelligence officials ("The Star Chamber"), it was said to control a number of field operatives from the domestic white supremacist and other international milieus, and its activities included drug and arms smuggling, human trafficking, child abuse, and domestic terror. The WEU's domestic terror plans specifically included biological warfare agents such as anthrax; all claimed to come from former Soviet and Middle Eastern sources, but it turns out those groups were in fact likely operating under the banner of US intelligence (Bob Fitrakis, "Battelle exposed in anthrax biochemical conspiracy", 2002/01/14). The dossier also mentions that WEU field operatives aimed to spread these biological agents to others, mirroring an early story (ABC News, "White supremacists encouraging their members to spread coronavirus to cops, Jews, FBI says", 2020/03/23) published about COVID.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:25 pm

Monk » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:07 pm wrote:"The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?"

The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted lives the world over for more than a year. Its death toll will soon reach three million people. Yet the origin of pandemic remains uncertain: The political agendas of governments and scientists have generated thick clouds of obfuscation, which the mainstream press seems helpless to dispel.

In what follows I will sort through the available scientific facts, which hold many clues as to what happened, and provide readers with the evidence to make their own judgments. I will then try to assess the complex issue of blame, which starts with, but extends far beyond, the government of China.



^ But if the virus occurs during 2019 in sewage samples around the world, then what?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:26 pm

Harvey » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm wrote:
Monk » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:07 pm wrote:"The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?"

The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted lives the world over for more than a year. Its death toll will soon reach three million people. Yet the origin of pandemic remains uncertain: The political agendas of governments and scientists have generated thick clouds of obfuscation, which the mainstream press seems helpless to dispel.

In what follows I will sort through the available scientific facts, which hold many clues as to what happened, and provide readers with the evidence to make their own judgments. I will then try to assess the complex issue of blame, which starts with, but extends far beyond, the government of China.



^ But if the virus occurs during 2019 in sewage samples around the world, then what?


That '3 million dead' figure is one of several grossly misleading/inaccurate data points, wholly accepting front-facing figures without a hint of scrutiny.

The timing of these stories: the seeming 'green light' for the establishment/faux-alternative press to bombard us with 'natural vs man-made debate' narratives, are clearly intentional. As mentioned before: misdirections, limited hangouts and muddying of waters.

They're grabbing the reins back -- if they were ever taken away, however fleetingly -- and steering herd mentality.
Perhaps this time there will be more people challenging the lies.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:22 pm

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Couple quick data points, both referencing the use (and suppression) of Ivermectin.

First, from the comments section of this posting:
https://www.ecosophia.net/toward-the-breaking-point/
Mr. Nobody says:
June 2, 2021 at 3:21 pm

As long as institutional science remains beholden to political and economic interests, and prestigious scientists are happy to spout whatever their corporate or government paymasters tell them to say, distrust in scientific pronouncements is going to become more widespread and more intransigent. The reason that so many people don’t trust scientists to tell them the truth, after all, is that so often, scientists haven’t told them the truth.

That’s really just it, isn’t it? I’ve really “come around” quite a bit in the last six months about the coronavirus epidemic. That is to say, I no longer believe that the official narrative constitutes any sort of gospel truth. This is not to say that I dispute that there is and has been a significant number of people suffering (sometimes quite horribly) and dying on account of Covid-19, because I have no doubt of that. The things I do doubt are the lockdown strategy, the true level of danger to society posed to society as a whole by the virus, and what we’re doing to medically treat people who have the virus.

The thing that “red-pilled” me about the virus and speaks directly to what you’re talking about this week concerns the third item on the list, namely the refusal of many international medical authorities to use Ivermectin to treat Covid-19 when doing so could squash the pandemic like a cockroach. There is even an industrial-strength campaign underway to suppress not only use of this well-established, safe, and effective medication, but to stop people on the Internet and in the media from even talking about it. I know you don’t watch videos, but I offer this two and a half hour long interview with Ivermectin-advocate Dr. Pierre Kory for the commentariat to give everyone an idea of what an outrage is taking place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_b4NRTB6k&t=420s

But those who want to watch it should do so soon, because YouTube in its terms of service (yes, this is explicitly stated) to remove any videos that advocate treating Covid with Ivermectin.

I can only speculate why this sociopathic policy is being pursued and backed up with establishment intimidation and censorship. The “Occam’s Razor” explanation is that Big Pharma’s vaccine-profits are being protected. But it has gotten to the point where I am open to the idea that something even more complex, nefarious, and downright Plutonian is going on in regards to the entire global response to the pandemic. And before all this started happening, I was always one to deplore such thinking as “conspiracy theories”. Of course, I still try to be very careful what I think and say about the pandemic because there are people who are using it to promote whatever deranged trip they’re on, and I have no desire to fall down any rabbit-holes of irrational thinking.



Another posting that references Ivermectin (along with theories on prevailing narratives -- my inclusion of this here is not an endorsement of all points raised; Re: point 5 below, herd/naturally acquired immunity is a big contributor to lowered cases over the last few months, in my view)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:55 am

Belligerent Savant » 04 Jun 2021 23:22 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:13 am wrote:
Belligerent Savant » 04 Jun 2021 05:14 wrote:^^^^^

indeed.


By the way, was there a 'pandemic' in Sweden in 2017-2018?

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There were severe outbreaks of h3n2 influenza around the world in 2017/18. Its the same flu varient that caused the 1967/68 pandemics. In Australia the death rate from flu was about three times higher than the previous year.


Right. And yet no mandates or lockdowns in 2017-2018. NO fearporn. No blatant propaganda. Somehow humans, for the most part, carried on with barely any notice.

2017-2018: no propaganda
2020-2021: an onslaught of fearporn and blatant propaganda, leading to massive unprecedented transfer of wealth, heightened control measures and ongoing policy changes (proposed or enacted).

Are you serious?


Anyway ... there is definitely something in the use of Ivermectin as a treatment.

It seems to be successful everywhere its used and I haven't heard of it causing problems. There is obviously heaps of Pharma propaganda in the massive vaccination push. I'm not necessarily opposed to vaccination for COVId either.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:01 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:22 am wrote:.

Couple quick data points, both referencing the use (and suppression) of Ivermectin.

First, from the comments section of this posting:
https://www.ecosophia.net/toward-the-breaking-point/
Mr. Nobody says:
June 2, 2021 at 3:21 pm

As long as institutional science remains beholden to political and economic interests, and prestigious scientists are happy to spout whatever their corporate or government paymasters tell them to say, distrust in scientific pronouncements is going to become more widespread and more intransigent. The reason that so many people don’t trust scientists to tell them the truth, after all, is that so often, scientists haven’t told them the truth.

That’s really just it, isn’t it? I’ve really “come around” quite a bit in the last six months about the coronavirus epidemic. That is to say, I no longer believe that the official narrative constitutes any sort of gospel truth. This is not to say that I dispute that there is and has been a significant number of people suffering (sometimes quite horribly) and dying on account of Covid-19, because I have no doubt of that. The things I do doubt are the lockdown strategy, the true level of danger to society posed to society as a whole by the virus, and what we’re doing to medically treat people who have the virus.

The thing that “red-pilled” me about the virus and speaks directly to what you’re talking about this week concerns the third item on the list, namely the refusal of many international medical authorities to use Ivermectin to treat Covid-19 when doing so could squash the pandemic like a cockroach. There is even an industrial-strength campaign underway to suppress not only use of this well-established, safe, and effective medication, but to stop people on the Internet and in the media from even talking about it. I know you don’t watch videos, but I offer this two and a half hour long interview with Ivermectin-advocate Dr. Pierre Kory for the commentariat to give everyone an idea of what an outrage is taking place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_b4NRTB6k&t=420s

But those who want to watch it should do so soon, because YouTube in its terms of service (yes, this is explicitly stated) to remove any videos that advocate treating Covid with Ivermectin.

I can only speculate why this sociopathic policy is being pursued and backed up with establishment intimidation and censorship. The “Occam’s Razor” explanation is that Big Pharma’s vaccine-profits are being protected. But it has gotten to the point where I am open to the idea that something even more complex, nefarious, and downright Plutonian is going on in regards to the entire global response to the pandemic. And before all this started happening, I was always one to deplore such thinking as “conspiracy theories”. Of course, I still try to be very careful what I think and say about the pandemic because there are people who are using it to promote whatever deranged trip they’re on, and I have no desire to fall down any rabbit-holes of irrational thinking.


That discussion linked to in the above quote is excellent quality and very convincing. Everyone should watch at least the first hour.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:24 pm

Tony Blair calling for vaccine passports


Tony Blair calling for vaccine passports, throwing the word 'freedom' around to meet his NLP targets.

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Meanwhile...

BREAKING .......... The WHO Under Fire for Endangering Lives

Ivermectin, Successfully used in India, Confirmed as COVID Treatment by Bombay High Court
https://www.francesoir.fr/politique-monde/livermectine-utilisee-en-inde-avec-succes-confirmee-comme-traitement-contre-la-covid

Listen carefully to what Dipali Ojha says in the video ... you may hear the opening salvo of the defence of the sovereign individual's right to health against Corporate For-Profit Stalinism


The Virus and the Parasite

Via MOA https://tinyurl.com/36d7vf75

https://bty4gpgnbdqx3hvw7jkj7ph5je-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-www-francesoir-fr.translate.goog/politique-monde/livermectine-utilisee-en-inde-avec-succes-confirmee-comme-traitement-contre-la-covid Hopefully the above translated to English...


Author (s): FranceSoir


Me Dipali Ojha is a member of the Indian Bar association which recently initiated proceedings against Dr. Soumya Swaminathan Scientific Director of the WHO. In his debriefing, Dipali Ojha explains the details of the procedure and what to do next, as well as the situation in India.



Situation

In India, the Ministry of Health included ivermectin as part of the treatment of Covid19 as early as April 2021 and confirmed this on several occasions, including in its last recommendation. The Minister of Health therefore did not follow the advice of the WHO not to use ivermectin . India, after a scientific review of the existing evidence, followed suit with Senegal, which had not followed the WHO advice on hydroxychloroquine with continuous use in combination with another molecule since March 2020. " We do not blindly follow the WHO " declared Prof. Moussa Seydi, head of the infectious diseases department at Fann hospital in Dakar.

As several Indian states continue to prescribe ivermectin with success, WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan tweeted on May 10 that the United Nations agency advises against the use of the drug to treat patients with the disease. COVID-19, except in clinical trials. The tweet included a press release issued by the company that makes the drug, Merck, saying it had found no evidence to support the use of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19.

Safety and effectiveness are important when using any drug for a new indication. @WHO advises against the use of ivermectin for # COVID19 except for clinical trials https://t.co/dSbDiW5tCW

- Soumya Swaminathan (@doctorsoumya) May 10, 2021



The action of Indian Bar

The Indian Bar's response was straightforward - a formal notice before action demanding accountability from the 51-page scientific director who takes up the various arguments in favor of ivermectin and above all questions why the scientific director puts in her tweet a old Merck press release while on March 31, 2021 she herself issued a WHO opinion on ivermectin. This really raises questions.



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Inflection point in India

A few weeks ago a group of Indian lawyers, whose sponsors are not yet identified, attacked the decision by the state of Goa to include ivermectin as part of the treatment against the Covid19 thus following national guidelines. The reasons given in the procedure were that the WHO had not approved the use of ivermectin.

The Goa government has therefore produced a response brief thus confirming that the rationale for WHO's advice not to use ivermectin is flawed. This thesis is based on a lot of evidence including the contradictory analysis of the WHO opinion made by the FLCCC of Dr Pierre Kory . It is therefore a first for a government to take a legal position in favor of early treatment.

Deputy Secretary (Health) Vikas Gaunekar said in an affidavit that

Various studies carried out in different countries have shown that the drug has a positive effect on the prevention and treatment / cure of patients.
The tablets have been shown to be effective in studies carried out in many countries, ”he said.
Studies and reports endorsing ivermectin are available on the ivmmeta.com website.
Some reports indicate that the World Health Organization's analysis was flawed and that the death rate was very low in patients who received the tablets for early treatment or prophylaxis (preventive treatment)

The decision fell and the Bombay High Court upholds the use of ivermectin after being reviewed by a panel of medical experts from the public and private sector on May 13, 2021.

Apart from the fact that the Deputy Secretary of Health recognizes the effectiveness of ivermectin as a treatment against Covid, medical experts from the public and the private sector have also confirmed it and the High Court has rendered a judgment in favor of this. treatment. It is indeed the recognition of this treatment in a country which has already generalized its use.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:45 am

the ONE thing that has transformed, gutted and mutated every aspect of society, culture, the economy, and life as we know it way past what 9/11 ever did..."COVID-19" seems to have absolutely been engineered in a lab

https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/damning-s ... ed-in-lab/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-scienc ... 1622995184

“Damning” science strongly suggests that COVID-19 is a man-made monster, optimized in a lab for maximum infectivity before hitting the outside to catastrophic effect, two experts said Sunday.


https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... e-yourself

If a virus that has killed nearly 600,000 people in the U.S. and close to 4 million around the world turns out to have escaped from a laboratory in China, the formless fear that has immobilized most of the world for the last year and a half, at last given a target, might coalesce into fury.

And fury, when widely shared, is hard to control.


I'm glad there is a spotlight on Dr Fauci and secret US gov't bioweapons, as much as I dislike China's total information blockage and shenanigans...I worry Covid will be used to further justify a World War 3 against China(and Russia) which we don't need. I just know I ain't getting a jab to ward off something engineered in a lab.
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Postby Grizzly » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:37 pm

I wish, I could say, unbelievable...but we all know the score by now.

Peter Daszak has been appointed chairman of the investigation into the origins of COVID19. He previously emailed Fauci thanking him for dismissing lab-leak as a "conspiracy theory". Massive conflict of interest.

https://covid19commission.org/origins-of-the-pandemic

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https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/nubi3m/peter_daszak_has_been_appointed_chairman_of_the/
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