Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:21 pm

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Is there any chance for a reasoned skeptical position against Covidian panic and the biodictatorship that isn't something like '5G is causing the Covid deaths since it couldn't be a virus' (equivalent of the no-planes at the towers on 9/11) or no one's even dying, the bodies are a hoax, etc. (equivalent of no victims on 9/11). Because if that shit is not paid-for disinfo for idiots to believe and help destroy any movement against 'Covid Pass' systems, it fucking well should be. Seems to be catnip for a bunch of you!

Meanwhile, it's been 10 pages since this was last posted...

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:07 pm wrote:Not an endorsement, but then again, I don't disagree with very much of this either
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/corona

Corona: A Primer

Corona has been a complete failure of policy and science. Everything that the media tells you about Corona is wrong, and everything your government has done about Corona is pointless. In what follows, there will be no citations, but you can easily ascertain the truth of everything here.

Origins

Corona is almost surely the product of gain-of-function research undertaken at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The most likely scenario is a lab accident in which researchers infected themselves and spread the virus to their contacts, but an act of sabotage or even a release for political or other purposes is impossible to rule out. Since the SARS outbreak of 2003, bat coronaviruses have become a staple of research among virologists, and it’s probably not an accident that humanity has seen several bat coronavirus outbreaks in the decades since. One of the most recent was a series of viral pneumonia cases that struck a group of miners who were cleaning bat faeces from a cave in Yunnan Province in China. Their work was related to bat sampling undertaken by the Wuhan virologists, and this sampling initiative uncovered Corona’s closest known relative, RaTG13. Corona is different from all other beta coronaviruses, in that its spike protein has a specific anatomical feature, the furin cleavage site, that grants it an advantage in infecting humans.

Corona is extremely unlikely to have jumped directly from animals to humans, and the Huanan Seafood Market is not the origin of the 2019 pandemic. Viruses from the Seafood Market outbreak were sequenced early on, and found to be genetically subsequent to other virus samples from elsewhere in the world. This was known even while many politicians and other experts loudly proclaimed the Seafood Market as the origin of the pandemic.

The earliest Corona infections probably happened around September or October 2019. By November 2019 there was already community spread in northern Italy, and by December it was surely widely seeded in Europe and North America. China knew about the Hubei outbreak by November 2019 at the latest, and they had almost certainly identified and sequenced Corona before January 2020. This is how Christian Drosten and his team were able to develop the world’s first PCR Corona test, before any sequences had been published.

Corona: Transmissibility, Pathogenicity

Corona is somewhat bad. In terms of mortality, it is the equivalent of a middle-of-the-road pandemic flu. Adjusting for age and obesity, it seems to be in the neighbourhood of the Hong Kong Flu of 1968/69. In other words, Corona is more deadly, but only because we have an older and fatter population.

Corona is dangerous, almost exclusively, to the old, the obese, and the already ill. Almost all deaths and serious cases happen in these very identifiable sub-populations. In children, Corona is less dangerous than influenza. The risk stratification of Corona is so extreme, that most people fail to understand their own risk. Almost everybody under 60 or 70 drastically overestimates the risk Corona poses to them. This is true even among sceptical readers of this essay.

Any serious viral infection, to say nothing of invasive hospital treatments, will cause lasting sequelae in a subset of patients. This is true for influenza and it is true for Corona as well. Beyond that, the special claims made for Long Covid are a mixture of the hyperbolic, the unproven, and the irrelevant. The only specific, lasting symptom for which there is good evidence is anosmia – the loss of smell. This can persist for many months, and in some cases reduced smell may be permanent.

Long Covid in children is entirely fictional, and in fact Corona poses no measurable danger to kids. Nor do child infections drive the pandemic. Children are mostly infected by adults. All efforts to control the spread of Corona by isolating children and subjecting them to heavy testing regimes have exercised no influence on infections.

In early days, the transmissibility of Corona was hugely exaggerated, an artefact of rapidly expanding test capacity in Spring 2020. In reality, Corona is probably not much more transmissible than many pandemic flus. Likewise, the deadliness of Corona was inflated early on by poor treatment (which killed many patients unnecessarily) and over-hospitalisation (which caused many additional infections).

An important and neglected feature of Corona, is that it is above all a disease of health institutions. It does the better part of its killing and spreading in hospital and institutional care settings. In this it is very much like SARS and MERS.

Corona: Will It Overwhelm Hospitals?

In the earliest days, people feared the Corona fatality rate most of all. As Corona came to the West and authorities saw that it was far less pathogenic than SARS, they made a deliberate decision to shift the discussion from mortality to hospital capacity, as the more defensible argument for invasive countermeasures.

The early suggestion that Corona would overwhelm healthcare systems everywhere has proven unfounded. Even with the treatment errors and over-hospitalisations of the first wave, outright catastrophes were limited to a few countries, and particularly in the prosperous West, the dire predictions have wholly failed. Seasonal influenza is also dangerous to the old and vulnerable and has also been known to place incredible stress on healthcare systems.

At the same time, many diseases have nevertheless gone untreated since Spring 2020, as operations and other procedures have been needlessly delayed to preserve hospital capacity, and lockdown propaganda convinced many that hospitals were to be avoided at all costs. Thus policy responses that were sold as a means of ensuring the continued availability of healthcare have resulted in mostly the opposite, and one is left to wonder how things would have been any different, if Corona had indeed overwhelmed our facilities.

Lockdowns: Their Origin

After much hesitation and misdirection, China responded to rising infections around Wuhan by locking down Hubei province at the end of January 2020. In doing this, they acted contrary to all prior epidemiological doctrine. The theory called for containment – testing, contact tracing, house arrest – only in the earliest stages of an outbreak, when there are few infections confined to specific towns or neighbourhoods. Once cases spread to broader regions or cities, it was accepted that only mitigation is workable. Mitigation is understood to be minimal measures to ‘slow the spread’ and keep hospitals at capacity. Bans on mass gatherings, regional school closures, and increased work-from-home are all that mitigation amounts to.

China’s Hubei lockdown was therefore unusual, and western health authorities reacted with scepticism. Yet the WHO ultimately endorsed China’s approach, after a joint WHO-China mission to study the Chinese pandemic in February. This mission resulted in a 24 February press conference in Beijing and a brief report that claimed the Hubei lockdown was responsible for the collapse in infections there. Bizarrely, the data published in the report show that the wave was already receding the moment the lockdown was implemented. February is often the end of the influenza season in China.

Nevertheless, after the end of February, the WHO and important NGOs like the World Economic Forum began to advocate for mass containment as a general response to the pandemic. Italy announced the first region-wide lockdown on 8 March, and a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign ensued, to justify the lockdown domestically, and to promote lockdowns to the rest of Europe and the world. This campaign had a social media component, steered at least in part from China. The public health establishment backed this campaign, and all of these forces working in concert were enough to persuade almost all countries, aside from a few exceptions like Japan, Sweden and Belarus, to shut down most of public life and confine people to their homes for months.

Lockdowns: Their Failure

The lockdowns have never had any clear effect on the spread of Corona. Infections receded after Spring 2020 with the arrival of Spring weather. While other human coronaviruses are influenced powerfully by seasonal and regional effects, epidemiologists have downplayed the seasonality of Corona, in a transparent attempt to allow mass containment measures to claim victory for the seasonal ebb in cases.

We know that lockdowns are not ineffective against all viruses. They are probably not the reason why the flu has disappeared, but they do have a substantial effect against RSV, to take just one example. We can tell, because countries with harder lockdowns (like Germany) saw surveilled cases of RSV plummet, while countries with few or no measures (like Iceland, or Japan) had nearly ordinary rates of RSV. (Meanwhile, flu has disappeared everywhere.) There are other viruses, however, against which lockdowns don’t work at all. The biggest example is rhinoviruses. Places with long, hard lockdowns see no real change in their rate of rhinovirus infections.

In its susceptibility to lockdowns, Corona looks more like rhinoviruses than RSV. We don’t know how rhinoviruses keep spreading, but in the case of Corona, one reason is certain to be aerosolised transmission. Corona leaves the airways of infected people in small aerosol particles. These behave like a gas that fills indoor spaces. Many containment measures are premised on droplet or surface transmission, and are therefore useless, and aerosols moreover have lockdown-defeating properties. Infected people quarantined in their apartments will nevertheless release aerosols that spread to others spaces in the building. Infected aerosols can hover in the air for a long time even after infected people have left.

Corona has another curious feature, which perhaps arises from its gain-of-function enhancements, in that it front-loads its attack. It becomes suddenly highly transmissible around the time of symptom onset. This is different from many other viruses, which are considered to have transmissibility spikes around the time symptoms peak. This early spike in transmissibility appears to be the kernel of truth at the heart of the undying myth of asymptomatic transmission. In fact, despite this enhancement, there is no evidence of significant Corona transmission from asymptomatic or even pre-symptomatic people. If you feel healthy, you’re not contagious. If asymptomatic transmission were pervasive, the mass quarantine of the symptomless in lockdowns would have a clear effect, and yet it doesn’t. This is also why the wide-scale implementation of rapid antigen tests has proven totally useless. People with respiratory symptoms are told to avoid antigen test sites, and so the centres screen only asymptomatic people who are guaranteed to come up negative. PCR-confirmed positives from antigen test centres are thus exceedingly rare.

The symptomatic stay home whether there is a lockdown or not, and they have done so since March 2020. This means that community transmission of Corona doesn’t happen very often, even in places with high incidences of infection. Transmission is driven mostly by a few super-spreaders, who violate rules intentionally; and also probably by a very few unfortunate people who experience symptom onset while they are in the company of other people. Either way, the Corona pandemic is driven almost entirely by extreme outliers. Most people will give Corona to just one other person, or to nobody. Universal measures like lockdowns, which reduce opportunities for transmission generally across the population, are quite easily defeated by the strange, unpredictable events that are responsible for most community infections.

Not only is community transmission rare, it is mostly irrelevant. Half or more of all serious cases and deaths occurs in a closed cycle between hospitals and institutional care facilities. The residents of nursing homes must be periodically treated in hospitals, and then returned to their residences. Corona circulates in a closed loop between them and their caregivers, a phenomenon against which population-wide lockdowns are powerless.

Masks

There is no evidence, anywhere, that community masks do anything. They won’t stop aerosolised transmission any more than they will protect you from a chlorine gas attack, and respirators (like N95 or FFP2 masks) will have no effect unless they are properly fitted, you are clean-shaven, and you are trained in their use. Even healthcare professionals working in controlled environments with extensive experience have high rates of error, and it is essentially impossible for anyone to use respirators effectively in everyday life. Mask mandates don’t drive infections down, lifting them doesn’t cause cases to spike, and changes or enhancements to mask mandates also do nothing.

Test & Trace

Countries with advanced contact tracing programs experienced the second and the third waves just as everybody else did. This is not surprising, because there is no way that contact tracing can work. Even the most elaborate testing efforts are able to find only a minority of cases (perhaps 30% under the best conditions), and on top of that comes the unavoidable delays in obtaining and reporting test results. Together, these mean that tracers can never influence the course of the pandemic. Health authorities everywhere surely have data on the number of infections their tracing operations have caught in the incubation stage. These statistics must be deeply unimpressive, because nobody has ever released them.

PCR testing is now widely understood to be a deceptive fiasco that provides only distorted information about current infections. Test data are not assembled for any epidemiological purpose, but only to justify containment and inspire compliance among the population. Internal correspondence from officials working for the German Ministry of the Interior states this openly, and attributes to China the notion of building centralised Corona databases and making them available to the public. It is one of various efforts to make the pandemic visible.

Above all, the PCR tests carried out by most of our countries are too sensitive. Many of the positive results – in some cases, most of them – are in fact triggered by old infections in recovered people. This means that ongoing case counts are an unknown mixture of new infectious cases and old recovered cases. Health authorities have of course long known this, and yet most of them have refused to reduce the sensitivity of their tests, sending their contact tracers on many a fool’s errand after old cases. This is one of countless indications that containment measures are not taken seriously even by the authorities who manage them.

Most public health agencies have refused to release cycle-threshold data, which would allow you to sort case numbers by sensitivity and identify the subset of reported infections that are current. This data is, however, known internally. Health bureaucrats, therefore, have access to a special set of disease statistics that is more precise and allows them to see the infection dynamics a week or two in advance of the rest of us.

This may be one explanation for the pervasiveness of ‘post-peak lockdowns’: These are lockdowns which are enacted late enough that they can take credit for a decline in the rate of infection that is already underway. Post-peak lockdowns allow the press and public health authorities to claim that measures have succeeded. In general, public health authorities everywhere strive to implement containment measures in well-timed ways that will support superficial claims of victory in the media. Genuine, strategic attempts to reduce Corona mortality, which would involve intervening somehow in the institutional care-hospitalisation infection cycle, are never undertaken.

Variants

For almost all of 2020, establishment sources generally denied that different strains of Corona behaved any differently. This ended in December 2020, when one particular strain – B117, the Kent or now the Alpha variant – caused a widely used British PCR test to return anomalous results. Normally, PCR tests come up negative or positive, regardless of the strain; but B117 had a key mutation that caused the tests used in Britain to light up in a partly-positive fashion. It thus became possible for health authorities in the UK to track the spread of B117 without any special sequencing, and it was noticed that B117 was rapidly gaining over all other strains.

Since then, variants have become a fixture of Corona discourse. It is constantly promised that they portend a new pandemic. In general, the increased infectiousness of the variants has been hugely exaggerated. They are at their height probably only 10–12% more infectious than other strains, and it has never been clear that they cause worse disease. The variants are all distinguished by a small series of semi-related mutations in the spike protein, and are likely somewhat better at gaining a foothold in human lungs. An oddity of all the variants demonstrated to be more transmissible, is that their transmissibility advantage seems to fade over time.

Vaccines

All currently available Corona vaccines use gene therapy technology. They are not ordinary vaccines, in that they do not introduce antigens directly into your blood. Instead, they give your cells the instructions to produce this antigen themselves. This mimics an actual viral infection and, in theory, should produce better t- and b-cell immunity than traditional vaccines. We still await evidence of this effect.

To date, there are two kinds of Corona vaccine:

1) Adenovirus vector vaccines, which infect you with a modified adenovirus. This virus brings instructions for the spike protein to your cells, your cells produce spike in response, and your immune system attacks, lending you some immunity to Corona. For most people, the vector vaccines are probably the safer option, though they have been associated with blood clots primarily in women.

2) The mRNA vaccines, which consist of instructions for the assembly of spike – in messenger RNA – encased in special lipids that help these instructions circulate and enter your cells. The protein factories of your cells receive these instructions and express spike and your immune system attacks, lending you some immunity to Corona. The mRNA vaccines have become known for causing myocarditis in young men. The published occurrences are low, but almost certainly under-reported, and enough to tip the risk-reward scales against vaccination in healthy members of this cohort.

Beyond these specific side effects, the vaccines are obviously more dangerous than traditional vaccines. It seems likely that spike is not a neutral antigen but a bioactive protein that interacts with your body in unexpected ways. But it is also possible some of the adverse effects are down to the gene therapy technology itself, or perhaps the unhappy combination of spike and your cells producing it.

The vaccines are certainly more dangerous than Corona to healthy children, and the cumulative risk of continued boosters is likely to be so high, that they will make sense only for the old and vulnerable. The vaccines were not designed to prevent infection, and universal vaccination won’t prevent future waves. In fact, evidence increases every day that vaccinated people have lower incidences of infection for a few months after vaccination only. Many people will therefore face Corona infection whether they are vaccinated or not. At most, they can hope that the vaccines will protect them nevertheless from serious illness and, in the process, renew and update their immunity. Otherwise, the vaccines have at least a shot of keeping elderly and vulnerable people out of the hospital, though it’s still far from certain they’ll work.

The vaccines have also been associated with strange, as yet officially ignored phenomena. In almost every country, the widespread administration of first doses causes infections to jump, at about a 2-week delay, until 20-30% have been vaccinated. Moreover, many countries with highly vaccinated populations are beginning to see rising infections 3-4 months after most of their second doses were administered.

The universal vaccination campaigns are indefensible at every level, a consequence of the vaccines being oversold by the press and many medical bureaucrats, and of politicians desiring to declare a final victory over Corona. This virus will still be circulating centuries after all of us have died, and the vaccines are likely to prove about as effective as flu shots, when all is said and done. They are a personal health choice relevant mostly to the old and the sick, and nothing more.

What is to be done?

Much less, in fact very little. The solution is to leverage the risk-stratified nature of Corona, vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable, and initiate an international campaign to forget about Corona. All measures should end, and everybody should return to their ordinary lives. Vaccines should be an option for adults who want them, but not children. As the healthy, mobile, active population gains immunity, the instance of disease across the world will decline and the vulnerable (vaccinated or not) will no longer be in any more danger than they were from influenza. There will always be new strains, as there were of influenza and as there are of all viruses; this is not a serious problem. Corona is not a super-virus, even if it does come from an imprudent laboratory in China; and no respiratory pathogen has ever been eradicated by the permanent imposition of house arrest or widely mandated masking.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:43 pm

'5G is causing the Covid deaths since it couldn't be a virus'


The above accounts for less than 1% (guesstimate, but prove me wrong) of the content in this thread, or ANY thread related to covid in RI.

So why even raise it other than as an egregious misframing?

This thread, overall, includes volumes of valuable compelling information counter to the dominant narratives.

That aside, the re-posting of the piece by eugyppius is a good call.

May as well re-post this one as well:
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The War on Reality

As the mainstream narrative about the origin of COVID-19 falls apart, it’s time to put other widely accepted facts about the virus—and the devastating measures they were used to justify—under the same scrutiny

by
Alex Gutentag

On March 13, 2020, the public school district where I teach announced that all classrooms and buildings would be closed for two weeks. Then two weeks turned into two months, and two months turned into over a full year without in-person instruction. My school serves a diverse population of low-income students in the San Francisco Bay Area. It is impossible to overstate the severity of this disruption caused by school closures for these students, many of whom did not have a computer or internet at home when virtual learning began. Online, my students got only a fraction of the regular curriculum. Kids who had once loved the social aspects of school were left with only the parts of school they hated, and students with disabilities who depended on school for daily living needs were cut off from a vital service.

“Public health” and “the safety of our children” came to mean students Zooming from homeless encampments, experiencing severe abuse, regressing academically, falling into depression, going hungry, struggling through catastrophic learning loss, and, in the saddest cases, not making it through the year alive. Despite consistent evidence that schools were not sites of high transmission for COVID-19, many teachers failed to put aside baseless fears about classroom superspreading and rampant infection. As a result, many of the most vulnerable children in our society suffered outrageous hardships, while their affluent peers attended private schools in person. We’ve all been told that school closures and lockdowns were mandated by science, but what if these mandates were immoral? What if they were based on a series of lies? In fact, what if the entire rationale for most restrictions was actually rotten to the core?

We’re watching the mainstream pandemic narrative starting to unravel. While the Senate and House intelligence committees investigate the origins of SARS-CoV-2, many reporters are openly wondering why they initially dismissed the lab leak hypothesis as “misinformation.” Few in media consider the possibility that their approach to the theory was not an anomaly, but rather a long-established pattern of journalistic dereliction of duty. For the public, these renewed questions about the virus (and their hard-to-face answers) speak to a deep sense that something is amiss in the story we’ve been told by major media outlets. But gain-of-function research is just the tip of the iceberg.

A trove of media darling Dr. Anthony Fauci’s emails was recently released to the public. The emails reveal early assertions that asymptomatic transmission is rare, that post-infection immunity is highly likely, and that masks are “not really effective.” However, you wouldn’t know that from the public messaging since the start of the pandemic, in which bureaucrats and journalists upheld lasting misconceptions that asymptomatic cases are dangerous, natural immunity is not a factor in protecting the population, and individuals are responsible for viral spread. These misconceptions fueled countless months of lockdowns, business closures, and job losses, pushing millions of people into poverty and despair through the destructive lie that stringent “sick until proven healthy” interventions save lives.

In reality, the rushed doomsday forecasts and commitment to politically correct pseudoscience prompted leaders to abandon decades of pandemic planning. This not only had disastrous economic consequences, but it also exacerbated the effects of COVID-19 itself. And rather than swiftly correct their errors, public health officials and politicians doubled down, manipulated data, and blamed ordinary people for the failure of nonsensical policies. The uncomfortable truth is that “The Science” did not protect vulnerable populations. Instead, “expert” advice served only to make the pandemic more deadly and replace the scientific process with destructive anti-science.

Saving Lives by Killing People

In December 2020, 35% of Americans believed that half of the people with COVID-19 required hospitalization. The correct figure was 1%-5%. Americans also estimated that the share of COVID-19 deaths for people between 18 and 24 was 8%. It was actually 0.1%. These incorrect assumptions were influenced by anecdotes, shocking media coverage, and early projections like the influential Imperial College model, which threatened that without lockdowns there would be 40 million COVID-19 deaths worldwide. The model assumed an infection fatality rate (IFR) of 0.9%, but the actual IFR of COVID-19 is 0.15% and the median IFR for people under 70 is 0.05%.

As a result of mistaken prognostications like this, the media compared COVID-19 to the 1918 influenza pandemic, for which the average age of death was 28. For COVID-19 the average age of death is 73, and about half of all deaths are in people 80 or older. While the CDC projected a one-year decrease in life expectancy for the U.S. population, the overall decrease in life expectancy was only five days, and the U.S.’s excess mortality in 2017 was greater than its excess mortality in 2020.


There is no better example of the harm created by flawed simulations, and the subsequent misguided interventions, than New York’s disastrous nursing home policy. While Gov. Andrew Cuomo landed a $5 million book deal and won an Emmy for his televised briefings, conditions on the ground for COVID-19 patients in his state were catastrophic. Over 9,000 elderly COVID-19 patients were sent from hospitals back to nursing homes. Additionally, Cuomo required group homes for people with intellectual disabilities to take COVID-19 patients and attempted to issue a blanket DNR guideline for all cardiac patients in New York City. He also denied nursing homes’ requests for testing kits, ignored the concerns of families, and gave immunity to nursing home executives. This resulted in the deaths of nearly 15,000 long-term-care patients.

These deaths did not occur because Cuomo ignored scientists and researchers. They occurred precisely because Cuomo was adhering to predictions from his team of experts who projected the need for 140,000 hospital beds and 40,000 ICUs. Ultimately, New York’s actual bed and ICU use peaked in mid-April at 18,825 and 5,225, respectively. The deadly decisions the governor’s office made were motivated by a perceived need to save resources and space—a manufactured imperative based on fictitious IFR figures and a baseless belief in universal risk.

Moreover, although some New York hospitals were overwhelmed, many were not. While Elmhurst hospital in Queens was at full capacity in April, the hospital had 26 new ambulances to take patients to 3,500 empty beds in New York City, many within a 20-minute drive. Because of panic induced by horrific forecasts, New York City doctors cited the need for “wartime ethics” when advising patients and families about DNRs. At some hospitals, doctors were informally allowed to override patients’ desires for medical intervention. These ethical violations were urged on by crazed media coverage and an environment of psychological terror, but they were not justified by the true level of danger involved in treating patients.

Despite concerns about hospital beds and ICUs, field hospitals across the country remained largely empty, costing taxpayers $660 million despite the fact that most of them did not serve any patients. Cuomo’s nursing home order was replicated by four other Democratic governors, and one-third of all American deaths from the virus are now linked to nursing homes. As a consequence of these practices, New York State has the second-highest COVID-19 mortality rate in the country.

Following the Science

Three of the top four states in overall COVID-19 mortality have Democratic governors who “followed the science” long after the initial promises that it would only take “two weeks to flatten the curve.” Although these states have high population density, density is often associated with lower COVID-19 death rates. After Texas Gov. Greg Abbott lifted all his state’s restrictions in April, Texas saw no resulting surge in cases, hospitalizations, or deaths. In fact, many states that continued restrictions saw higher cases and deaths than states that lifted restrictions early.

These trends are consistent with dozens of peer-reviewed studies and retrospective analyses indicating that stay-at-home orders did not have an impact on rates of fatal infection and that comparisons between many countries do not show superior outcomes from lockdowns. Besides hospitals, nursing homes, and other health care settings, households show some of the highest rates of transmission, while the share of transmission that has happened outdoors is less than 0.1%. Furthermore, vitamin D and exercise have both been linked to better outcomes for COVID-19 patients. In the U.S. 78% of people hospitalized for COVID-19 were overweight or obese. Lockdowns caused Americans to gain an average of two pounds per month and reduce their daily steps by 27%, thereby increasing the likelihood of adverse COVID-19 outcomes.

Not only were government orders confining people to their homes highly detrimental, but the early recommended treatment procedures for the virus were often fatal. Although experts and the media claimed that ventilators were lifesaving, death rates in most states actually dropped dramatically once the use of ventilators was abandoned in favor of other treatments. In order to meet what was supposed to be an astronomical medical demand, the U.S. spent $3 billion manufacturing ventilators, but by August 2020, the Department of Health and Human Services had distributed only 15,057 ventilators, leaving 95,713 of them untouched in a federal stockpile.

Usually, 40%-50% of patients in severe respiratory distress die on ventilators, but in New York City the death rate for COVID-19 patients on ventilators was 88%. Hospital staff often intubated patients prematurely or left them on ventilators for 10-15 days. Patients were given unusually heavy sedatives so that staff would be able to check on them less frequently. U.S. hospitals received $13,000 for each Medicare COVID-19 patient and $39,000 for each Medicare patient they intubated. These patients were separated from their families and had no one to advocate for them. Many people died after terrified doctors, misinformed about the scale of the risks, used intubation as a way to avoid virus exposure.

When lockdowns began, commentators referred to herd immunity as a “genocidal” concept that meant exposing vulnerable people to disease. That is actually what happens when natural immunity is prevented. Lockdowns limit and delay the acquired immunity of the younger population, making older people more vulnerable to exposure, especially in the absence of focused protection measures. Long-lasting immunity from COVID-19 is acquired after mild or asymptomatic cases, and sensational stories about “long COVID” and “COVID heart” have been debunked. In-person learning was not correlated with higher rates of student illness and school closures may have actually worsened death rates.

Clearly, quarantining the healthy did exactly the opposite of what was sold to the public: It increased non-COVID-19 excess deaths while leaving elderly and immunocompromised people completely unprotected. While some may excuse the destructiveness of lockdowns as a simple error, the sheer volume of reversals public health officials have made during the pandemic paints a picture of bureaucrats intentionally misleading the public in order to cover up their failures or pursue agendas unrelated to public health.

Moving the Goal Posts

Experts have consistently taken an imprecise approach to statistics, changed their minds, and withheld information while claiming the mantle of “scientific consensus.” Over the summer of 2020, the WHO quietly changed its definition of herd immunity from protection acquired through both natural immunity and vaccination to one acquired only through vaccination. Similarly, in December 2020, Fauci declared that he was changing his estimate for vaccination rates needed to achieve herd immunity from 60% to 90%. When asked for a scientific rationale, Fauci said he changed the percentage based purely on polling that indicated more Americans were willing to take the COVID-19 vaccine.

When lockdowns failed to yield meaningful mitigation results, public health agencies that had previously recommended against masking changed their position. Although simulations suggested that 80% mask compliance would do more to stop the spread of COVID-19 than lockdowns, regional analysis in the United States does not show that mandates had any effect on case rates, despite 93% compliance. Moreover, according to CDC data, 85% of people who contracted COVID-19 reported wearing a mask.

Research has shown that once unquestioned rules like 6 feet for social distancing are arbitrary and not actually associated with lower transmission. Reporting of death and hospitalization rates was also inexact, and mass asymptomatic testing distorted public understanding of the virus. Ninety-five percent of COVID-19 deaths had an average of four related underlying conditions and the CDC’s death count includes “deaths involving unintentional and intentional injury.” As a result of testing children hospitalized for unrelated conditions, the number of pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations was exaggerated by at least 40%.

The PCR testing protocol for COVID-19 was based on a paper by Christian Drosten, which was peer-reviewed and published within just two days in a journal on whose editorial board Drosten sits. The method was created “without having virus material available,” using instead a genetic sequence published online. The PCR test amplifies genetic material of the virus in cycles but does not determine whether a case is infectious. A higher number of cycles indicates a lower viral load. The cycle threshold for PCR tests used in the U.S. was usually limited at 37 or 40, highly sensitive levels. In July 2020, Fauci remarked that at these levels, a positive result is “just dead nucleotides, period.”

For vaccinated Americans, the CDC has lowered the cycle threshold for “breakthrough infections” to only 28 cycles and announced that post-vaccine cases will only be counted if they result in hospitalization or death. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated that vaccinated Americans who died and tested positive for COVID-19 merely died “with” COVID-19, not “from” COVID-19. This method of tallying would eliminate many pre-vaccine cases. It is also likely that 85%-90% of tests that are positive at a cycle threshold of 40 would be negative at a cycle threshold of 30.

Despite this lack of accurate data, authorities have consistently scapegoated members of the public as “anti-maskers” or “anti-vaxxers” responsible for prolonging the pandemic. They have used divisive messaging and disorienting scare tactics in order to justify months of COVID-19 restrictions that were based on dogma, not on science.

Scientific Inversion

Our current state of scientific inversion has sown intense division in the U.S. and threatens to rip apart the social fabric. For the past 16 months, the public has been told that it is our duty to serve the needs of medical institutions and personnel, not the other way around. Effective low-cost therapeutics like ivermectin were dismissed in favor of a vaccine program that transferred billions of dollars from taxpayers to pharmaceutical executives and shareholders. Critics of measures like school closures were accused of far-right white supremacy, even though these measures were most damaging to working-class people and minorities. Deadly policies were portrayed as lifesaving, and public health protocols caused immense clinical damage.

A few people have benefited from this war on reality while many have paid a heavy price. In 2020, workers lost $3.7 trillion, while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion and 493 new individuals became billionaires. During this same period, decades of progress against diseases like malaria and tuberculosis were reversed. Disruptions to health and nutrition services killed 228,000 children in South Asia. Globally, the impact of lockdowns on health programs, food production, and supply chains plunged millions of people into severe hunger and malnutrition.

In the U.S., we are facing a crisis of cardiovascular disease and undiagnosed cancer. Unemployment shock will cause 890,000 additional deaths over the next 15 years. Overdoses from synthetic opioids increased by 38.4%, and 11% of U.S. adults considered suicide last June. Three million children disappeared from public school systems, and ERs saw a 31% increase in adolescent mental health visits.

Now, the stories that were used to justify these hardships are continuing to unravel. Many of the people responsible will insist that the second-order consequences are the horrible symptoms of a magic virus and that the mistakes made in handling such a crisis were inevitable. But preventing young children from reaching crucial developmental milestones in the face of mounting evidence is not just a “mistake.” Forcing hospital patients to die alone without saying goodbye to their families is not just a “mistake.” Pushing millions of people into poverty and starvation is not just a “mistake.” These are crimes.

Basic civil, human, and economic rights were violated under demonstrably fraudulent pretenses. The sacrifices we thought we were making for the common good were sacrifices made in vain. Unlawful lockdowns demoralized the population and ruined lives. The tragic reality is that this was all for nothing. The only way to prevent these events from recurring is to exhaustively investigate not just the origin of the virus, but every corrupt and misguided decision made by politicians, NGOs, public health organizations, and scientific institutions made since its fateful emergence.



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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:05 pm

Belligerent Savant » Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:43 pm wrote:
'5G is causing the Covid deaths since it couldn't be a virus'


The above accounts for less than 1% (guesstimate, but prove me wrong) of the content in this thread, or ANY thread related to covid in RI.


The Shit Stew of the last couple of pages is equivalent.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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https://rumble.com/vkwvfx-rand-paul-rel ... =6zof&ep=2
Rand Paul Releases EPIC Video Smashing COVID Mandates & How to Fight Back
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:24 am

https://coviddatatosee.com/

A useful reminder that, even with vaccines and all the hype about the young in the media, deaths from COVID remain predominantly amongst older age groups. Under 60s are the almost unreadable dark red sliver at the bottom. 0-19s have also been broken out in pink but are so tiny as to be invisible.

Data from PHE (Public Health England) based on deaths per 100k population, analysis courtesy of coviddatatosee.com


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Dr. Dan Stock explains how the current measures to combat Covid do not work. Dr. Stock spoke at the Mt. Vernon school board meeting.




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Dr. Dan Stock:

...it's hard to believe we're 18 months into this and still having a problem... I'm a functional family medicine physician, that means i am specially trained in immunology and inflammation regulation, and everything being recommended by the CDC and the state board of health is actually contrary to all the rules of science. Things you should know about coronavirus and all other respiratory viruses: they are spread by aerosol particles, which are small enough to go through every mask. By the way, the literature that supports all of that is in a flash drive that we've presented to you, has been given to the secretary; as a matter of fact it quotes at least three studies that are sponsored by the NIH to that exact fact even though the CDC and the nih have chosen to avoid to ignore the very science that they paid to have done.

That is why you keep struggling with this, it's because you cannot make these viruses go away. The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter or become 'deranged', as has happened recently with these vaccines, and then they cause symptomatic disease because they cannot be filtered out and they have animal reservoirs. This is a very important point: no one can make this virus go away. The CDC has managed to convince everybody that we can handle this like we did smallpox, where we could make a virus go away. Smallpox had no animal reservoirs, the only thing it learned to infect was humans, that's why we were able to make that virus go away. That will not happen with this any more than it will with influenza, the common cold, respiratory syncytial virus, adenoviral respiratory syndromes, or anything else that has animal reservoirs. The reason you can't do this is because you're trying to do something which has already been tried and can't be done.

Equally important is that vaccination changes none of this, especially with these [Covid] vaccines. I would hope this board would start asking itself, before it considers taking the advice of the CDC, the NIH and the State Board of Health: why are we doing things about this that we didn't do for the common cold, influenza, or respiratory syncytial virus? And then ask yourself, why is a vaccine that is supposedly so 'effective' having a breakout in the middle of the Summer, when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that? To help you understand, you need to know the condition that is called 'antibody mediated viral enhancement', that is a condition when vaccines work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals, on coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak ... and that is why you're seeing an outbreak right now. In fact, in that flash drive ...will be a study showing that 75 percent of people who had COVID 19 positive symptom cases in a Massachusetts outbreak were fully vaccinated.

Therefore, there is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than any person unvaccinated. You should also know that no vaccine, even the ones i support and would give to myself and my children, ever stops infection. ... no vaccine prevents you from getting infection; you get infected, you shed pathogen, this is especially true of viral respiratory pathogens. You just don't get symptomatic from it so you cannot stop spread. You cannot make these numbers ...get better by doing any of the things you're doing because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens and you can't prevent it with a vaccine because they don't do the very thing you're wanting them to do and you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize that the center for disease control and the Indiana state board of health are giving you very bad scientific guidance, and instead read the articles that are going to come on the email and are on this flash drive and listen to the people in this audience here tonight, who actually have recognized the advice they are getting from the CDC and the NIH is counter-factual.

That's why you're still fighting this, with this vaccine that supposedly was going to make all of this go away, but has suddenly managed to make an outbreak of COVID 19 develop in the middle of the summer, when vitamin D levels are at their highest. By the way, the other thing that would be necessary for any vaccine restriction to be considered is if there were no other treatments available. I can tell you, having treated over 15 COVID 19 patients, that between active loading with vitamin D, Ivermectin and zinc, that there is not a single person who has come anywhere near the hospital and we already have studies that show that if you achieve a 25 hydroxy vitamin D level greater than 55, your risk of covid-19 death will drop down to through one-quarter of the population average for the united states.

...so if you were going to discriminate based upon vaccine you should also discriminate based upon 25 hydroxy vitamin D level, zinc taste test response, and probably previous infections, since there are also studies on that flash drive that show that people who have recovered from covid19 infection actually get no benefit from vaccination at all; no reduction in symptoms, no reduction in hospitalization, and suffer two to four times the rate of side effects if they are subsequently vaccinated. Therefore, the policies that you are basing on are totally counter-factual.

I don't blame this board for that because i know you aren't scientists and you thought it was reasonable to listen to the CDC, NIH and the Indiana State Board of Health, but i would encourage that instead you listen to the people out here in this audience, and read what's on that data drive, and if anybody here in this board has any questions about anything on that I will happily come back and sit with you individually, if you would like me to explain the science behind this.

And if you're worried about being sued by somebody because you don't follow the guidance of the CDC and the NIH I will say you have a free pro bono expert testimony at your disposal; I will testify in defensive discord turning down all these recommendations for free at any time in any court.

Thank You.



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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease

2021 Mar;75(3):e13795. doi: 10.1111/ijcp.13795. Epub 2020 Dec 4.

Timothy Cardozo 1, Ronald Veazey 2
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PMID: 33113270 PMCID: PMC7645850 DOI: 10.1111/ijcp.13795

Abstract

Aims of the study: Patient comprehension is a critical part of meeting medical ethics standards of informed consent in study designs. The aim of the study was to determine if sufficient literature exists to require clinicians to disclose the specific risk that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus.

Methods used to conduct the study: Published literature was reviewed to identify preclinical and clinical evidence that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus. Clinical trial protocols for COVID-19 vaccines were reviewed to determine if risks were properly disclosed.

Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.

Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent.

© 2020 John Wiley & Sons Ltd.

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The authors have declared no conflicts of interest for this article.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:13 pm

Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:24 am wrote:
Dr. Dan Stock explains how the current measures to combat Covid do not work. Dr. Stock spoke at the Mt. Vernon school board meeting.




See this guy? Do you think he's doing good work? (Impressive to me, but disclaimer: only saw yesterday, haven't examined in depth, haven't seen contested.)

Does he give you hope that 'Covid Pass' plans can be turned back?

How do you think he's served by pod and video merchants who are claiming Covid doesn't even exist?

Such an elementary point: Winning a case requires discrimination, best evidence, best argument, and avoiding superfluities, absurdities, and scams.

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:51 pm

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He won't register a blip on the fight against 'health passes', and frankly his argument can simply be waved away by other 'experts' that will raise counterpoints that would further confirm the biases of the 'pro-official-narrative' crowd, just as the above will sway many of those against such narratives. Confirmation bias swinging both ways. Which only further serves the dominant objectives.

Frankly my priority right now -- and part of the reason for sharing my last offering above -- is to keep masks off kids in schools, as it's one of the more egregious efforts to normalize/condition the young for subservience, especially as they get older. If they have their way, the youngest and future generations won't know a world without expressionless face coverings. It's why i attend and speak at school board meetings and write letters to my local board of ed/superintendents. A class action is also curently in the works. All for naught thus far in the NYC/NJ areas, as Murphy and Cuomo (who -- news flash -- will be resigning in 14 days, even though he should be in jail right now for his complicity in the deaths of thousands of senior citizens during those early weeks of 2020) play their parts as dutiful tools.

'Collaborative' homeschooling may end up being the last resort, or otherwise relocation.

Secondarily, or along similar priority lines (speaking only for myself), is refusing to wear a mask and/or get vaccinated, both on principle and on the grounds of sound science. I'm prepared to sue if my employer eventually mandates vaccination.

The prospects are dim Re: preventing health passes from becoming the norm in the year+ ahead, though i'm inspired by the mass protests against such passes in EU countries. They should be opposed by everyone regardless of political leanings, particularly now that it's clear these injections do not curb spread or immunize.
Turning this into a political view is grotesque, but not surprising. It's how these talking points, and opinions, can be so well-managed with minimal effort.

We can only proceed as we deem fit. Perhaps our actions may awaken or inspire others. More often, minds are already firmly set.
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Re: A better way

Postby Harvey » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:59 pm

JackRiddler » Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:24 pm wrote:.

You're basically acting like idiots who think some magical bullshit is going to defeat the beast.
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I subjected myself to sufficient Stewie watching, Harvey, and gave you a substantive critique, to which you did not in any way reply. Stew is your enemy. He's a side attack. He's selling you obvious falsehoods with the effect (regardless of his intent, which I expect is to run a business) of discrediting you and crippling you as an actor in this drama (as pitiable as what any of us can do may seem to be).


As if Stew was ever the point you fucking drama queen. My point is, you can't reason with those who have been trained to be unreasonable. They can not be appealed to through reason. That was all. That was my fucking point.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:04 pm

JackRiddler » 10 Aug 2021 01:00 wrote:
Karmamatterz » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:02 pm wrote:Never heard of Stewie, never saw or read whatever crap he's selling.

Are you embracing the vaccine passports in NYC Jack?


Idiot. My position on such things has been obvious throughout the last year. Thank you for illustrating your total cluelessness, as I was saying above. And like I'm going to engage with you.

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How in the hell is that supposed to be helpful? I don't get it.

I agree that Stewie and his lame nonsense is of no help whatsoever. So thanks for the trenchant debunking. But I don't get how expressing outrage over our oligarchy's divide and conquer vaccinated vs. unvaccinated narrative makes one an idiot or unworthy of engagement.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:49 pm

stickdog99 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:04 pm wrote:I agree that Stewie and his lame nonsense is of no help whatsoever. So thanks for the trenchant debunking. But I don't get how expressing outrage over our oligarchy's divide and conquer vaccinated vs. unvaccinated narrative makes one an idiot or unworthy of engagement.


Not what I said. Idiotic is reading everything we've all written here and then asking me if I therefore 'embrace' vaccine passports!
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:43 pm

JackRiddler » 11 Aug 2021 01:49 wrote:
stickdog99 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:04 pm wrote:I agree that Stewie and his lame nonsense is of no help whatsoever. So thanks for the trenchant debunking. But I don't get how expressing outrage over our oligarchy's divide and conquer vaccinated vs. unvaccinated narrative makes one an idiot or unworthy of engagement.


Not what I said. Idiotic is reading everything we've all written here and then asking me if I therefore 'embrace' vaccine passports!


OK, but I read that as a simple, impersonal expression of outrage at anyone not sufficiently outraged. And while I am not sure that this sentiment is helpful, I do find it eminently understandable.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:25 pm

We are in trouble if the health passport issue becomes a covid issue. Too much division and pugnaciousness across the spectrum of opposition against, what ever has been happening over the the last 18 months.

Everyone should be able to unify against domestic freedom of movement passes based on a breach of civil liberties.

Forcing people to justify why there shouldn't be a health pass has cleverly disunified those opposed to it as they don't agree on the reasons.

There needs to be attack against it, not defense against it using a disunified front.

Attack is asking people to justify a health pass, ignoring why there shouldn't be one, and continually reiterating that the pass can't be justified.

Defense is one group saying bill gates wants to make you a slave. Another group saying vaccines don't work at all. Another saying they are vaccinated but uncomfortable with having to show their health status. Others who only care about privacy rights.

All these groups competing for the prime position on the platform, which of course will be given to the Qanon crowd to isolate the rest from the movement.

All this avoided by attack rather than defense.

Attack= why?
Defense = why not.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:10 am

Cowboy logic...

https://gab.com/Moonbasking/posts/106726186086342026

Being in Montana, I know plenty of guys like this. They aren't talk, they will fight.

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https://odysee.com/@keyholejourney:7/Physician-asst-speaks-to-board-members:b
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:24 am

JackRiddler » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:49 am wrote:Idiotic is reading everything we've all written here and then asking me if I therefore 'embrace' vaccine passports!


I haven't. You've been very careful to separate what you think Covid is being used for by power, from the specific scientific arguments surrounding Covid. You in particular have done a very good job of that. We saw two contibutors delighted to declare that they will not view specific arguments because the source offends them. I hoped to prove, in principle, a point relating to self imposed censorship. I believe I did. Much to your credit, you were willing to suffer for a few minutes and actually engage with my little test, passing with flying colours.

I simply remind you (if it were needed) that without the ability to publish or discuss, the process of science will simply stop altogether.

What pisses me off is the constant, ever so slightly patrician inference that one has become a 'far-right' dickhead for referencing information which is largely, only available from right wing media or perceived 'far-right' platforms. What we used to call 'freedom of expression' is itself becoming a dirty word. That's a fucking mess of a situation, deliberately exploited through the Trump years and coming home to roost in Technicolor right now. Otherwise intelligent people are cheering each time the shrinking public space is further closed down.

Didn't you cheer when Parler was being attacked because 'bad man say bad thing' there?
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That was good. People get it.

Being in Montana, I know plenty of guys like this. They aren't talk, they will fight.


I believe him.
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