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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:41 am

Belligerent Savant » 27 Nov 2021 03:36 wrote:.

Let me grab an old study from Japanese scientists, who tried to answer the question: Under what circumstances do we see antibody dependent enhancement? That is, a situation in which the virus uses your overall vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage, leaving you worse off than if you had never been vaccinated in the first place. They determined it’s pretty easy: You take Delta and you add these four mutations:

K417N, N439K, E484K and N501Y.


If you throw those four mutations into Delta, you have a version that uses your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage.

Does that ring a bell?

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Just spotted: very small cluster of variant associated with Southern Africa with very long branch length and really awful Spike mutation profile including RBD - K417N, N440K, G446S, S477N, T478K, E484A, Q493K, G496S, Q498R, N501Y, Y505H

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So let’s see:

-K417N: Bingo!

-N439K: No, but we have N440K which is a neighboring mutation and should perform the same trick of interfering with the antibodies.

-E484K: We have E484A, which means you have a mutation at the same spot, but resulting in a different amino acid, Alanine instead of Lysine.

-N501Y: Bingo!

In other words, its mutations look pretty much identical to what the Japanese scientists were warning would allow Delta to use your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage. Oops.



This new variant is a beta derived variant not a delta variant.

Early days but it seems to not cause systemic infection, it seems to be mild but we'll probably know for sure within a week cos its been spreading for a month in SA.

If those first two things are true then its awesome because lots of people in SA aren't vaccinated and if they don't start getting badly sick or dead in the next week then we might have a highly transmissible, relatively safe virus, like a cold. that would be interesting. And very good.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:11 am

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:29 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 00:48 wrote:
Grizzly » 30 Nov 2021 16:18 wrote:^^^
This...

ALSO,

How the fuck did this variant (Omnicon) get down under as no one has been allowed to come or go from Australia???!!!


People have been coming to Australia throughout the pandemic, just in limited numbers.

Only Australian citizens were allowed to return, provided they did 14 days quarantine in hotels in the major cities when they got here. Failures in that hotel quarantine system is where all of our outbreaks after the initial one in early 2020 have come from. (Which is why we built quarantine facitlities everyone is calling concentration camps) in the last 12 months. We should have done it straight away but our federal government was too incompetent to organise anything.

We were gonna reopen the borders on the weekend but these visitors from Omicron Persei have delayed that.


Here's the thing. From Australia's draconianly authoritarian reactions to COVID-19, you would think that millions of young and healthy Australians have already succumbed to the ravages of COVID-19. Right? Let's see the actual numbers (as of September 7 of this year).

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/09/ju ... e-numbers/

Covid facts

Australia has a population of approximately 25,806,000.

The average life expectancy in Australia is 82.8.

As at October 2020 the average age of death from Covid in Australia was approximately 85 and the median age at death approximately 86.


The overall case fatality rate (CFR) for Covid in Australia is approximately1.6% (1053 out of 63,604) (as at 7 September 2021). This is very similar to the CFR in other developed countries including the USA, UK, France and Spain.

More than 75% (47,897 out of 63,604) of persons diagnosed with Covid in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) are under 50

As at 7 September 2021 the CFR for Covid in Australians aged under 50 is <0.034% (16 out of 47,897). This can also be expressed as approximately 4 out of every 12,000 cases.

From 1 January to 1 August 2021 the hospital admission rate of Covid cases in Australians aged under 50 was approximately 7.2% (287 out of 3973). Of these, 39 cases were admitted to ICU equating to an ICU admission rate of 0.98% (39 out of 3973) in the under 50 age group

The majority of Covid cases recover without clinical intervention. The severity of disease and CFR generally increase according to increasing age, i.e. the older you are the more seriously it is likely to affect you.

The majority of deaths in Australia overall, like other developed countries, occur among older people. Sixty-six per cent of deaths registered in Australia in 2019 were among people aged 75 or over.

Approximately 66% (700 out of 1053) of Covid deaths in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) have occurred in aged care.

Out of 894 cases of people aged over 90 who have tested positive to Covid, 557 have survived (as at 7 September 2021). This means that even those aged over 90 have a statistical chance of over 60% of overcoming Covid.

Outside of aged care the overall CFR for Covid in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) is approx 0.57% (353 deaths out of 61,630 cases). If you are not an aged care resident you have a greater than 99% chance of surviving Covid.

There have been no deaths recorded in Queensland in Covid positive patients aged under 60 out of 1,598 cases (as at 8 September 2021). The average age of death from Covid in Qld is 78.

Approximately 73% of people who have died from Covid in Australia had pre-existing chronic conditions certified on the death certificate. Approximately 87% of all deaths due to COVID-19 have other conditions listed on the death certificate.

In 2021 there have been 35,179 positive Covid cases in Australia. There have been 144 recorded deaths in Covid positive patients. This equates to a case fatality rate in Australia in 2021 of 0.41%.

As at 7 September 2021, the current hospitalisation rate for Covid cases in Australia is 4.6% (1278 out of 27,797). The current ICU admission rate of Covid cases in Australia is 0.8% (220 out of 27,797).


This justifies suspension of all civil liberties? How in the fuck do Australians justify these wildly outsized authoritarian overreaches to themselves for such a miniscule threat?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:32 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 01:24 wrote:I've done my own digging and can't find any truth to the worst claims being made about what is happening in the NT. Everyone I've spoken to and every comment from the indigenous communities directly affected (none of the vids you've seen are from those people btw) have been supportive of how they are being treated. I don't like the removal of close contacts to howard Springs either but its not unique to blackfellas, just typical of Gunner's government.

I will say that the harshest lockdown in the country (which is what those communities are experiencing) is pretty fucked up.

When Sydney went into lockdown (when the Delta outbreak began in winter here,) gucci, David Jones and other upmarket stores were allowed to stay open in Sydneys rich suburbs while the poorer western suburbs had increased police patrols and were bearted by the former premier (who then stepped down because of corruption allegations.)

But in the poorest communities in the NT people can't leave overcrowded, poorly ventilated homes for any reason, including going bush to "country" to avoid the virus and potentially infected people.

Its a pretty clear double standard but its nothing new in Australia.


Nothing new, so therefore copacetic?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:42 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 03:44 wrote:
Harvey » 03 Dec 2021 12:39 wrote:

Wasn't severe enough.
Should have ____________ (insert required emergency powers) sooner.
Mistakes were made.
Incompetence as usual.
If it wasn't for ___________ (insert justificatory emergency) we'd have our freedom back.
This is all temporary.

You know, the script.


LOL Okay.

If the federal government had managed quarantine properly odds are it would have been less severe than the hotel quarantine option. People at Howard Springs are allowed outside. People in hotel quarantine are locked in their fucken hotel rooms for two weeks (sometimes more.) Some of those rooms don't even have properly opening windows. They are hotel rooms built for people staying for a night or two. Not two weeks without leaving the room/suite.

So less severe, not more severe.

These powers were implemented in March or April last year, but instead of one authority (federal gov.) taking its constitutional responsibility seriously it failed to do so. This meant another authority (state gov.) took on that same responsibility. Its a lot harder for an outbreak from a quarantine escape in Howard Springs to shut down Melbourne for months on end for example. It would have been the same process, just slightly less ad hoc and unfair.

It was done as soon as was possible. 18 months ago!

So yes mistakes were made, because of the usual incompetence.

We're an island at the edge of the world basically. We could have just completely shut the borders and said "No cunts getting in. Piss off." (Like we did to boat people who needed our help.)

And we wouldn't have any covid now. We could just have got on with our lives. But its a bit heartless stopping people coming home.

(Also, I have new neighbours. They've recently moved here from Italy.

How did that happen if we weren't letting people into the country? Anyway ... disgressing.)

As it is we can travel overseas if we're vaccinated. That hasn't changed because of Omnicon.

And the plan to reopen NSW without vaccination is still happening on 15 December last time I heard. Hadn't changed either. In fact the last I heard about it was Victoria opening up without any vaccine coersion either because if NSW is doing it they kind of have to to make the country function.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 59e7k.html

So that's one third of your script I'm following. The mistakes and incompetence third.

And we're talking about how a government acts so that's not an unreasonable assumption these days. Surely you're not suggesting a government in the English speaking world has reacted to this situation in a competent, mistake free manner?

Or that we're not fools to expect it?


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:44 pm

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his precious and fragile ego depends on him pretending forever not to understand it.

Northern Territory

Area:.......................................1.42 million km²

Population:........................................251,396

"Cases" (not sick people): .................278

Deaths: .................................................0 (zero)

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It's an emergency, send in the Army.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:45 pm

Harvey » 03 Dec 2021 04:49 wrote:
...reacted to this situation in a competent, mistake free manner?


They might be doing very well indeed.

It depends on:

The difference between your understanding of the situation and theirs.

What their policies are actually designed to achieve, not necessarily the same as what they say their policies are designed to achieve.

What their goals and intentions actually are.


Why to protect the populace, of course! Are you really suggesting that the global elite who control our politicians could have any other agenda?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:50 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 07:41 wrote:
Belligerent Savant » 27 Nov 2021 03:36 wrote:.

Let me grab an old study from Japanese scientists, who tried to answer the question: Under what circumstances do we see antibody dependent enhancement? That is, a situation in which the virus uses your overall vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage, leaving you worse off than if you had never been vaccinated in the first place. They determined it’s pretty easy: You take Delta and you add these four mutations:

K417N, N439K, E484K and N501Y.


If you throw those four mutations into Delta, you have a version that uses your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage.

Does that ring a bell?

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Just spotted: very small cluster of variant associated with Southern Africa with very long branch length and really awful Spike mutation profile including RBD - K417N, N440K, G446S, S477N, T478K, E484A, Q493K, G496S, Q498R, N501Y, Y505H

Image


So let’s see:

-K417N: Bingo!

-N439K: No, but we have N440K which is a neighboring mutation and should perform the same trick of interfering with the antibodies.

-E484K: We have E484A, which means you have a mutation at the same spot, but resulting in a different amino acid, Alanine instead of Lysine.

-N501Y: Bingo!

In other words, its mutations look pretty much identical to what the Japanese scientists were warning would allow Delta to use your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage. Oops.



This new variant is a beta derived variant not a delta variant.

Early days but it seems to not cause systemic infection, it seems to be mild but we'll probably know for sure within a week cos its been spreading for a month in SA.

If those first two things are true then its awesome because lots of people in SA aren't vaccinated and if they don't start getting badly sick or dead in the next week then we might have a highly transmissible, relatively safe virus, like a cold. that would be interesting. And very good.


Yes. Now contrast your extremely sane and rational reaction to this to the extremely coordinated OHMYGOD fearporn we see about the GREAT AND POWERFUL OMICRON on every channel of every corporate media outlet worldwide. Guess this is just yet another case of agendaless incompetence.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:24 pm

http://thehotstar.net/videos/vaccine_nationalism.mp4 - a little video I made. Not sure how to post it here, as native html video tags don't work.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:42 pm

https://aaronkheriaty.substack.com/p/on ... iosecurity

On the Rise of Our Technocratic Biosecurity Surveillance Regime

Vaccine mandates and passports are an early and opportunistic step toward new modes of governance and social control.

Aaron Kheriaty, MD

Readers of this newsletter may recall, if they glanced at the “About Human Flourishing” page, that I included the following descriptor when I launched:

The real division today is no longer left/right, liberal/conservative, or even Democrat/Republican. It is between those who will accept a technocratic biosecurity surveillance regime and those who will resist.


My posts so far have focused mostly on my legal efforts to oppose coercive vaccine mandates, to advocate for transparency from public health agencies, and to promote fair and just Covid policies. So what is the “technocratic biosecurity surveillance regime” mentioned here—besides being a mouthful of jargon?

I could begin with a definition of these terms, but let’s instead start simply with a headline from today’s New York Times, “Israel’s spy agency will track Omicron patients’ phones.” The article reported:

The Israeli domestic intelligence agency has been granted temporary permission to access the phone data of people with confirmed cases of the Omicron coronavirus variant in order to trace who those people met recently… Using emergency legislation, the Israeli cabinet voted on Sunday to permit the spy agency, the Shin Bet, to track Omicron patients’ phones….

The government and its supporters said the decision was necessary to quickly identify potential virus carriers who need to be tested and quarantined, in order to curb the spread of the new variant. “We have indeed reached a point at which we do need a ‘Big Brother’ keeping track of where we go,” Limor Yehuda, a criminology professor, wrote on Monday in Maariv, a centrist newspaper.


This is the equivalent of the CIA tracking American citizens—not those suspected of being traitors or terrorists, but those suspected of having an infection. This is not an isolated development. The Covid pandemic has proven a very useful opportunity for elites with global economic and political interests, in collaboration with the intelligence community, to accelerate the acceptance of a powerful and invasive digital infrastructure. This system is already used for tracking and “surveilling” ordinary citizens, with the eventual goal of more directly monitoring and controlling our behavior.

Public health and safety during a declared state of emergency has proven the ideal opportunity to accelerate these rapid social changes. In the past two years we have collectively accepted being enrolled as willing participants in massive social experiments—in the name of public health and safety—that would never have been accepted under ordinary conditions. Hence, “biosecurity”.

In this novel paradigm, the real sovereign or locus of political authority resides with the person authorized to declare the “state of exception” or state of emergency. That person at the federal level is now Xavier Becerra, the Secretary of HHS, a lawyer with no medical knowledge and no public health experience. In the state of exception or emergency, which Becerra recently renewed again to almost no public notice or media attention, ordinary constitutional rules are suspended and emergency powers are delegated (e.g., to governors, public health officials, administrative state bureaucrats, committees, CEOs, etc.)

It remains a sobering, instructive, and undeniable historical fact that Nazi Germany was governed for virtually the entirety of its existence under Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution, which allowed for the suspension of German law in times of emergency.


From this it should be clear that by the word “regime” I do not necessarily mean a particular government or party in power, but rather the network of public and private institutions, whether at home or abroad, that have worked in concert to advance the biosecurity model during this state of emergency. Those governing and directing this novel paradigm are mostly an elite class of unelected but credentialed experts and managers—hence the regime is “technocratic”.

I predict that if the rising biosecurity surveillance regime does not meet more robust resistance in 2022, it will increasingly demand ever more intrusive and burdensome interventions into the lives, and bodies, of individuals. On this social paradigm, citizens are no longer viewed as persons with inherent dignity, but as fungible elements of an undifferentiated “mass”, to be shaped by supposedly benevolent health and safety experts.

The marriage of global public health with novel digital technologies of surveillance, personal data extraction, information flow, and social control now makes possible novel forms of domination unimaginable in the totalitarian regimes of the past.
Whether we agree or disagree with this or that public policy, this broader development should concern each of us.

In our present circumstances, resisting the biosecurity surveillance regime will require critiquing and rejecting some of the most disastrous Covid policies of the past two years, including widespread lockdowns (the first time in history we have quarantined healthy populations during a pandemic) as well as coercive vaccine mandates and passports. Resistance efforts are necessary to slow the rapid acceptance of the new paradigm. Free people, acting together, must clearly demonstrate that there are strict limits to what citizens will accept under the rubric of a public health emergency. So far over the past two years citizens have delineated virtually no limits to these powers. We have yet to collectively say “no”. Whether a broad refusal will happen with vaccine mandates remains an open question.

American universities serve as ready incubators to run these experiments before they are rolled out on a mass scale. Consider, for example, the system implemented earlier this year at my own institution, the University of California Irvine, before there was any hint of vaccine passports at other venues in the U.S.:

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Measures of this kind serve to get ordinary people used to things that two years ago would have sounded insane. Could we have imagined in 2019 having to show a QR code testifying that we had obeyed a public health order involving injecting a novel vaccine into our body—with the routine release of previously protected private health information to a complete stranger—just to board a plane or a train, or to enter a restaurant or other public venue? The “ZotPass” implemented at UCI, or the vaccine cards we currently flash on our way in the door, are crude and rudimentary tools of the new regime. The mechanisms of surveillance and control will become ever more refined, with QR codes giving way to retinal scans, and climate change or other social issues overtaking Covid as the latest public health “crisis”.

The urgent task today is to begin to see, and help those around us see, why we should and how we can (1) recognize, (2) understand, (3) reject and (4) resist this new despotism. Things are moving astonishingly fast, so the time to begin is now.

Stay tuned for more on this theme in the new year.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:47 pm

drstrangelove » 03 Dec 2021 23:24 wrote:http://thehotstar.net/videos/vaccine_nationalism.mp4 - a little video I made. Not sure how to post it here, as native html video tags don't work.


Good stuff!
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:20 pm

stickdog99 » 04 Dec 2021 08:29 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 00:48 wrote:
Grizzly » 30 Nov 2021 16:18 wrote:^^^
This...

ALSO,

How the fuck did this variant (Omnicon) get down under as no one has been allowed to come or go from Australia???!!!


People have been coming to Australia throughout the pandemic, just in limited numbers.

Only Australian citizens were allowed to return, provided they did 14 days quarantine in hotels in the major cities when they got here. Failures in that hotel quarantine system is where all of our outbreaks after the initial one in early 2020 have come from. (Which is why we built quarantine facitlities everyone is calling concentration camps) in the last 12 months. We should have done it straight away but our federal government was too incompetent to organise anything.

We were gonna reopen the borders on the weekend but these visitors from Omicron Persei have delayed that.


Here's the thing. From Australia's draconianly authoritarian reactions to COVID-19, you would think that millions of young and healthy Australians have already succumbed to the ravages of COVID-19. Right? Let's see the actual numbers (as of September 7 of this year).

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/09/ju ... e-numbers/

Covid facts

Australia has a population of approximately 25,806,000.

The average life expectancy in Australia is 82.8.

As at October 2020 the average age of death from Covid in Australia was approximately 85 and the median age at death approximately 86.


The overall case fatality rate (CFR) for Covid in Australia is approximately1.6% (1053 out of 63,604) (as at 7 September 2021). This is very similar to the CFR in other developed countries including the USA, UK, France and Spain.

More than 75% (47,897 out of 63,604) of persons diagnosed with Covid in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) are under 50

As at 7 September 2021 the CFR for Covid in Australians aged under 50 is <0.034% (16 out of 47,897). This can also be expressed as approximately 4 out of every 12,000 cases.

From 1 January to 1 August 2021 the hospital admission rate of Covid cases in Australians aged under 50 was approximately 7.2% (287 out of 3973). Of these, 39 cases were admitted to ICU equating to an ICU admission rate of 0.98% (39 out of 3973) in the under 50 age group

The majority of Covid cases recover without clinical intervention. The severity of disease and CFR generally increase according to increasing age, i.e. the older you are the more seriously it is likely to affect you.

The majority of deaths in Australia overall, like other developed countries, occur among older people. Sixty-six per cent of deaths registered in Australia in 2019 were among people aged 75 or over.

Approximately 66% (700 out of 1053) of Covid deaths in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) have occurred in aged care.

Out of 894 cases of people aged over 90 who have tested positive to Covid, 557 have survived (as at 7 September 2021). This means that even those aged over 90 have a statistical chance of over 60% of overcoming Covid.

Outside of aged care the overall CFR for Covid in Australia (as at 7 September 2021) is approx 0.57% (353 deaths out of 61,630 cases). If you are not an aged care resident you have a greater than 99% chance of surviving Covid.

There have been no deaths recorded in Queensland in Covid positive patients aged under 60 out of 1,598 cases (as at 8 September 2021). The average age of death from Covid in Qld is 78.

Approximately 73% of people who have died from Covid in Australia had pre-existing chronic conditions certified on the death certificate. Approximately 87% of all deaths due to COVID-19 have other conditions listed on the death certificate.

In 2021 there have been 35,179 positive Covid cases in Australia. There have been 144 recorded deaths in Covid positive patients. This equates to a case fatality rate in Australia in 2021 of 0.41%.

As at 7 September 2021, the current hospitalisation rate for Covid cases in Australia is 4.6% (1278 out of 27,797). The current ICU admission rate of Covid cases in Australia is 0.8% (220 out of 27,797).


This justifies suspension of all civil liberties? How in the fuck do Australians justify these wildly outsized authoritarian overreaches to themselves for such a miniscule threat?


Probably because what you're hearing overseas is nothing like what is happening here.

There is an occupy protest at the Victorian parliament and its been there for weeks. If our civil liberties were so infringed why is it still there?
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:29 pm

stickdog99 » 04 Dec 2021 08:32 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2021 01:24 wrote:I've done my own digging and can't find any truth to the worst claims being made about what is happening in the NT. Everyone I've spoken to and every comment from the indigenous communities directly affected (none of the vids you've seen are from those people btw) have been supportive of how they are being treated. I don't like the removal of close contacts to howard Springs either but its not unique to blackfellas, just typical of Gunner's government.

I will say that the harshest lockdown in the country (which is what those communities are experiencing) is pretty fucked up.

When Sydney went into lockdown (when the Delta outbreak began in winter here,) gucci, David Jones and other upmarket stores were allowed to stay open in Sydneys rich suburbs while the poorer western suburbs had increased police patrols and were bearted by the former premier (who then stepped down because of corruption allegations.)

But in the poorest communities in the NT people can't leave overcrowded, poorly ventilated homes for any reason, including going bush to "country" to avoid the virus and potentially infected people.

Its a pretty clear double standard but its nothing new in Australia.


Nothing new, so therefore copacetic?


Why the fuck do you keeping suggesting shit like that?

You're happy to act all shocked that three kids who jumped quarantine in the NT got locked up again but don't give a fuck about the situation with juveniles and the legal system or the indigenous incarceration rates. This is what people mean when they say:

To see so much bullshit being shared around, especially by people that have no love for indigenous people suddenly jump on the 'genocide' bandwagon when it suits them is fucked. Indigenous people on the ground have continually tried to raise awareness of things affecting our

...People including long term systemic racism. To try use us as props now is disgusting.


You suggested this guy was a moron you racist piece of shit.

If I dropped you or Mac in one of those communities I reckon you'd last 15 minutes before someone beat youse to a pulp and told youse to fuck off back to white people land.

You have no fucken idea what you are talking about.
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Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:03 pm

I asked you if you thought it was OK that indigenous people are being rounded up and kept in concentration camps even though they do not have COVID-19 and thus pose no risk to anyone.

And you responded by telling me that I am racist because these indigenous people would beat me up if they ever met me.

Just think for a second about how utterly vapid your response was. Why are you having this reaction to my questions?
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:41 pm

Bad Boy Bubby wrote:If I dropped you or Mac in one of those communities I reckon you'd last 15 minutes before someone beat youse to a pulp and told youse to fuck off back to white people land.


You have to admit this is impressive stuff. Sensitive intuition plus virile rigour, in no way fascist or even slightly ridiculous.

So hear the self-appointed Voice of the Indigenous People, you floppy-wristed fops. Listen to Bubby, Elder and CEO of The Communities. Because only Bubby, that big tough guy from brown people land, knows what's good for them blackfellas in blackfella land, not any of youse poncey pastyfaced poms or yellowbellied latte-sipping yanks or decadent degenerate racist johnny-come-latelies from any yellow people land or white people land (and certainly not any cleanshirts from India or any of them weedy vegetarian brown people lands LOL), tho i spose it makes youse urban sophisticates wet ur patent leather panties that them black fellas from The Communities are trying to escape the science yet again. the thick fkers, even though it only wants to help them, as History must surely by now have taught those useless fukn fruits and all youse foreign fairies and every prancing ooh-la-la poofter from Guadeloupe to Ghana and everywhere else.

Hold my beer, watch this.

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