"Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?)

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:46 pm

Harvey » 23 Dec 2021 09:30 wrote:How does one refute a scientific argument by attacking the character of the man or woman making it? That may work in a court room where a jury could be swayed by questions of credibility, and it certainly works in media, politics and propaganda, but having to do so suggests that the positive argument for the existence of viruses is much weaker than I assumed.


What scientific argument are you talking about?
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby DrEvil » Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:21 pm

Harvey » Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:30 am wrote:How does one refute a scientific argument by attacking the character of the man or woman making it? That may work in a court room where a jury could be swayed by questions of credibility, and it certainly works in media, politics and propaganda, but having to do so suggests that the positive argument for the existence of viruses is much weaker than I assumed.


There are very specific criticisms of the book in the article Iam posted (misrepresentation of sources etc.), and no one has even tried refuting any of that.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Harvey » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:47 pm

Well, I know one thing, if an argument requires smears it's probably not an argument. I know another thing, if pro-'vaccine' propaganda is covertly funded by the British royal family and the intelligence services, it's probably not science.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/12/24/leaked-files-syria-psyops-astroturfing-breadtube-covid/

Leaked files expose Syria psyops veteran astroturfing BreadTube star to counter Covid restriction critics

Kit Klarenberg and Max Blumenthal·December 24, 2021

By covertly recruiting popular YouTube influencer Abigail Thorn to counter growing opposition to UK gov’t Covid restrictions, psy-ops pros are bringing home the tactics they honed in the Syrian dirty war.

Leaked documents have revealed a state-sponsored influence operation designed to undermine critics of the British government’s coronavirus policies by astroturfing a prominent founder of the BreadTube clique of “anti-fascist” YouTube influencers.

The project aims to conduct psychological profiling on British citizens dissenting against policies such as mandatory vaccination and lockdowns, then leverage the data to establish a YouTube channel that portrays these critics as dangerous “superspreaders” of “disinformation.”

Designed “to curb the influence of pseudoscience material online, with specific emphasis on Coronavirus-related ‘anti-vaxxing’ sentiment,” the operation is run by the UK’s Royal Institution, and dubbed “Challenging Pseudoscience.”

Its top patron is Charles, the Prince of Wales, next in line to the British throne, who recently hit out at supposed “conspiracy theories” surrounding COVID-19 vaccines. The organization received a substantial cash injection in 2020 from the UK government’s Culture Recovery Fund earmarked for video production.

Leaked files obtained by The Grayzone indicate that the Royal Institution has enlisted the services of Valent Projects, a “social change” communications firm founded by a public relations operative previously involved in the UK Foreign Office’s campaign for violent regime change in Syria. Valent has also been sponsored by the US Agency for International Development (USAID), a US intelligence cut-out, for a project aimed at “investigating disinformation.”

Valent’s central role in the operation highlights the trend of information warfare specialists bringing the techniques they honed against targets like the Syrian government back home to the West, where increasingly unpopular governments confront masses of citizens ever-bristling at coronavirus restrictions.

As in Syria, where communications firms like Valent created, trained and instrumentalized media organizations to further regime change objectives, they have covertly recruited a famed British YouTube influencer to lend their carefully calculated messaging campaign an authentic flavor.

According to internal documents, Valent plans to design a “mass appeal social media campaign fronted and owned by prominent social media figure Abigail Thorn,” the founder of Philosophy Tube. Valent’s research on British citizens who reject official policy on COVID-19 “will be used to devise a campaign that utilises YouTuber Abigail Thorn’s existing platform to achieve a measurable cognitive shift in the target audience,” the files state.

Boasting over one million subscribers to her YouTube channel and more than 7000 Patreon supporters, Thorn has established a potent vehicle for any communications campaign. She is also a core member of BreadTube, an assortment of left-branded social media influencers that has attracted intense establishment interest for its purported ability “to pop YouTube’s political bubbles to create space for deradicalisation.”

While top BreadTubers are best known for employing memes and theatrical ploys to counter right-wing narratives, they have also dedicated intense energy to attacking the anti-imperialist left as “tankies” engaged in a secret “red-brown alliance” with right-wing extremists.

In his book, “BreadTube Serves Imperialism: Examining the New Brand of Internet Pseudo-Socialism,” socialist organizer Caleb Maupin likened BreadTube to the “counter-gangs” deployed by British and US intelligence to infiltrate and dismantle insurgent forces from Kenya to Southeast Asia.

BreadTube “speaks in the name of left-wing sounding ideals. In reality, it is likely serving one section of the American ruling elite and the intelligence agencies,” Maupin wrote.

The covert relationship between BreadTube’s Abigail Thorn, Valent Projects, and the Royal Institute appears to validate Maupin’s thesis.

“It does not surprise me at all to find out there is documented evidence that the British Royal Family and an intelligence contractor is bankrolling the work of Abigail Thorn,” Maupin told The Grayzone. “It lines up with everything I have observed about her and the BreadTube trend overall.”
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Dec 25, 2021 11:38 pm

Harvey, you're applying a double standard. Not a single similar remark from you after Fauci's been scurrilously disparaged, but me calling a Dr discredited by his peers a "quack" is seen by you as a "smear." Some people, like this man, earn the scorn of others through their own actions.

Hell, just look at all the disparaging remarks, the smears, cast by protesters here, in this thread, towards any who hold even slightly different points of view. You kept mum.

Stay consistent and don't fall victim to your own confirmation bias.

Joe, Harvey's referring to the science related in Tom Cowan's book, The Contagion Myth. See here.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:28 am

Iamwhomiam » 26 Dec 2021 13:38 wrote:
Joe, Harvey's referring to the science related in Tom Cowan's book, The Contagion Myth. See here.


I mean what actual science is there in Cowan's book?

What are the theories? How do you test them - ie how do you try to prove them wrong? What are the results of these attempts to prove them wrong? Can we repeat them and do them ourselves from the reports (provided we have the gear and the resources)?
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:05 pm

Honestly Joe, I really don't want to spend any more time discussing Cowan. 5G caused the spread of Covid, is one aspect.

Please re-read the article I linked to, as well as Mac's comment.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:26 am

Iamwhomiam » 27 Dec 2021 05:05 wrote:Honestly Joe, I really don't want to spend any more time discussing Cowan. 5G caused the spread of Covid, is one aspect.

Please re-read the article I linked to, as well as Mac's comment.


My point was there are no actual scientific arguments in the book supporting the idea that germ theory isn't real and that viruses don't exist.

Its not just virology, its everything bio science related - genetics, biochemistry even human, animal and plant physiology that would have to be wrong for Cowan's ideas to be credible.

And he doesn't even provide theories or even good experiments to support them that give credence to his ideas.
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:57 pm

America is facing a Blizzard of Mutant Killer-Dots. :shock:

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:49 am

Viral Blizzard has gone viral.

At least on CNN.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:49 pm

Highly relevant and highly educational. This man is worth listening to. A talk delivered on Long Island in 2018.

"We are slaughtering the micro-ecosystem."

Sounder » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:41 am wrote:I'm not starving for good podcasts, given the little time or patience I have for most verbiage out there. But this material is well worth anybodies time, and hopefully a useful trigger for remembering what life is about.

It is about finding the proper 'food' on all levels.

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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:06 pm

MacCruiskeen » 29 Dec 2021 06:49 wrote:Highly relevant and highly educational. This man is worth listening to. A talk delivered on Long Island in 2018.

"We are slaughtering the micro-ecosystem."

Sounder » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:41 am wrote:I'm not starving for good podcasts, given the little time or patience I have for most verbiage out there. But this material is well worth anybodies time, and hopefully a useful trigger for remembering what life is about.

It is about finding the proper 'food' on all levels.



LOL This shit is obvious and anyone who knows anything about the soil knows it.

Frankly if you haven't been doing it everywhere you live for the last 15 years (which is at least how long people here have talked about it,) you're a disgrace.

Viruses still exist tho.

Even if you live in a flat in a big city you can still compost and grow herbs in tubs or spread the compost on soil in the city, in parks, green spaces and even nature strips by the road..
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:19 pm

ffs
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:45 pm

Dude his name's Bush!!!
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Re: "Viruses": Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dots. (Really?

Postby conniption » Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:58 pm

Dr. Sam Bailey

Why Nobody Can Find a Virus
Jan 5 2022

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Perhaps prior to 2020 the issue of virus isolation was of minimal interest to the vast majority earth’s inhabitants. Most people blindly accept the medical establishment’s claims that viruses exist and can cause disease. They otherwise don’t give it a second thought. Sometimes you get unwell, and a doctor informs you, “it’s probably a viral illness” – but almost every time, you get better again.

However, the increasingly negative impacts from government instigated policies in the name of the “corona” crisis has resulted in some healthy new interest in the subject. Social cohesion in households and communities is being strained, businesses are being run into the ground, and suspicions about the requirement to be injected every four months to maintain protection against an invisible enemy are on the rise. If no virus has been isolated then its very existence is pure speculation. A phantom menace that has no confirmed physical presence, merely a ruinous psychological construct manifesting as a living nightmare. And those who ignore the pivotal issue of virus isolation are blindly accepting a premise on which all manner of lies can be built.

But there are scientific papers that prove isolation?…

continues... https://drsambailey.com/2022/01/05/why- ... d-a-virus/
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