20 Years Since 9/11

[Iamwhomiam]

Neither the 9/11 scam nor COUPVID-19 could possibly have worked in the 1970s

Perhaps not. From 1968 through 1970 I worked at Union Carbide in Manhattan, which was located at 270 Park Avenue. I lived in Flushing, the last (or first) stop on the 7 Line, very near where my maternal grandfather, a famous Fox Movietone Cameraman, had been born, and traveled to Grand Central Station. My building was only a few blocks walk uptown from the Grand Central. During those years the CIA dispersed aerosol biological agents in Grand Central Station and I was one of many thousand victims of whatever it was they put out there. At work in our health department were several military doctors who insisted they see me regularly and regularly I would check in with them so they could see if I was able to finally shake the unshakeable cold, strep throat and earaches and return to work.

It really was scary, having to evacuate our building repeatedly in '69 due to very real bomb threats. We evacuated the day GM was bombed, but those weren't government actions. (In retrospect, perhaps they were too.)

Harvey and syrup,

Not asking questions is good science? Who knew?

Asking good questions is good science. Asking bad questions is bad science. Asking bad questions is bad science because it brings bad results. Asking good questions is good science because it brings good results. Only my opinion.

(When I looked at the street view map of 270 Park Avenue the Union Carbide Building was gone! Turns out the 42 storey building was demolished in 2019! The largest Manhattan skyscraper ever to have been voluntarily demolished! We all know that's not true.)

[Harvey]

Many a good scientist has said there's no such thing as a stupid question, but apparently there are bad questions. I wonder who your Question Police will turn out to be? Oh, as turns out, they're everywhere. The culture makes them as a basic requirement of propagating itself.

There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand the world. There is no such thing as a dumb question.

Carl Sagan.

[Iamwhomiam]

Many a good scientist has said there's no such thing as a stupid question, but apparently there are bad questions. I wonder who your Question Police will turn out to be? Oh, as turns out, they're everywhere. The culture makes them as a basic requirement of propagating itself.

There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand the world. There is no such thing as a dumb question.

Carl Sagan.

FFS Harvey, give it a break. Bad questions are the wrong questions to be asked when seeking solutions to any problem and always returns erroneous results. Science is self-policing. Peer review. Which in turn decides whether a doctor's work is discredited, as Cowan's has, or bring him the candidacy for a noble.

Of course, there are dumb questions. Probably far more dumb questions than smart questions. Age, IQ, and knowledge by the questioner of the subject of inquiry, all determine whether a question is good, (smart) or bad (dumb) by either returning a correct or erroneous answer. "Is the Earth Flat,?" for example. Smart question to ask?

[Harvey]

Many a good scientist has said there's no such thing as a stupid question, but apparently there are bad questions. I wonder who your Question Police will turn out to be? Oh, as turns out, they're everywhere. The culture makes them as a basic requirement of propagating itself.

There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand the world. There is no such thing as a dumb question.

Carl Sagan.

FFS Harvey, give it a break. Bad questions are the wrong questions to be asked when seeking solutions to any problem and always returns erroneous results. Science is self-policing. Peer review. Which in turn decides whether a doctor's work is discredited, as Cowan's has, or bring him the candidacy for a noble.

Of course, there are dumb questions. Probably far more dumb questions than smart questions. Age, IQ, and knowledge by the questioner of the subject of inquiry, all determine whether a question is good, (smart) or bad (dumb) by either returning a correct or erroneous answer. "Is the Earth Flat,?" for example. Smart question to ask?

Give it a break yourself, mate. For some reason you're writing nonsense, as if your strawman (Is The Earth Flat) clears any of the fog you and others have been insisting we all peer through.

Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye.

[Harvey]

Science is self-policing

I'll just leave this floating here...

[Iamwhomiam]

For some reason you're writing nonsense, as if your strawman (Is The Earth Flat) clears any of the fog you and others have been insisting we all peer through.

Please provide us with one example of me insisting you all peer through the fog in any comment I've posted in this thread.

Strawman my ass.

[Harvey]

But you made sure we weren't talking about this thread, did you not?

Harvey and syrup,

Not asking questions is good science? Who knew?

Asking good questions is good science. Asking bad questions is bad science. Asking bad questions is bad science because it brings bad results. Asking good questions is good science because it brings good results. Only my opinion.

Hence my question: who decides what is a good question?

I've had all the sanctimonious TrustTheScience I'm prepared to take. If you prefer not to have an argument, simply park it elsewhere.

[Iamwhomiam]

But you made sure we weren't talking about this thread, did you not?

Harvey, have you lost your fucking mind? I lost family and friends in 911. I'm a firm believer in CD.

How very insulting. I offer what I think is a simplistic solution for you and syrup to come to an agreement. I now point out you asked no question previously, but offered your only your opinion:

Not asking questions is good science? Who knew?

And let's keep it real, Harvey, you're the one who dragged this nonsense out, not me. I would have left this thread after posting what you find so questionable. Quite the diversion from providing us with one example of my fogging the thread.

Please provide us with one example of me insisting you all peer through the fog in any comment I've posted in this thread.

But now to answer your question, which happens to be the first time you've asked it:

Hence my question: who decides what is a good question?

Whoever is qualified enough to explain to you why the question being asked by another is a bad question.

I don't come here to argue, Harvey. I come here to engage in intelligent discussion, sparse as it is.

[Harvey]

Harvey, have you lost your fucking mind? I lost family and friends in 911. I'm a firm believer in CD.

Which is already clear from your replies to the thread. Where have I disputed what you believe?

Quite the diversion from providing us with one example of my fogging the thread.

This is entierely nothing to do with what I was alluding to.

Please provide us with one example of me insisting you all peer through the fog in any comment I've posted in this thread.

Why? That's not what I've said.

Whoever is qualified enough to explain to you why the question being asked by another is a bad question.

Which is the answer I asked for. Your answer is simply not reflective of reality. Frankly, I'm tired of being told that my questions are not permissable, from being banned off social media to intelligent fools refusing to look at hard data I put in front of them. At a time when half the scientific community and a small majority of everyone else is actively prevented from being heard at all, anywhere except at the margins, the bland assurances you make above are worth precisely nothing. Would we still be debating whether 9/11 was an inside job if they were not? That was my point.

As I indicated, by now, I'm fairly certain that I'm fed up of hearing how well science regulates itself. In fact, I'm becoming quite adverse to that in particular. Thanks.

[PufPuf93]

Many a good scientist has said there's no such thing as a stupid question, but apparently there are bad questions. I wonder who your Question Police will turn out to be? Oh, as turns out, they're everywhere. The culture makes them as a basic requirement of propagating itself.

There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions put after inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry to understand the world. There is no such thing as a dumb question.

Carl Sagan.

FFS Harvey, give it a break. Bad questions are the wrong questions to be asked when seeking solutions to any problem and always returns erroneous results. Science is self-policing. Peer review. Which in turn decides whether a doctor's work is discredited, as Cowan's has, or bring him the candidacy for a noble.

Of course, there are dumb questions. Probably far more dumb questions than smart questions. Age, IQ, and knowledge by the questioner of the subject of inquiry, all determine whether a question is good, (smart) or bad (dumb) by either returning a correct or erroneous answer. "Is the Earth Flat,?" for example. Smart question to ask?

Don't forget questions of ill intent for gotcha moments. Perhaps not even being consciously asked. Humanity society is a conspiracy. Conspiracy that wins writes history and has the most power and money. Folks asking questionings may not understand the provenance nor intent of what they ask.

[Harvey]

Yes, it would be far easier for you if I were a useful idiot.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Yes, it would be far easier for you if I were a useful idiot.

What makes you so sure you aren't?

[Harvey]

Gosh, it would never have occured to me to ask. You?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Gosh, it would never have occured to me to ask. You?

I spend alot of time questioning what I think on the basis of "am I being a useful idiot for someone else's agenda?"

[PufPuf93]

Gosh, it would never have occured to me to ask. You?

I spend alot of time questioning what I think on the basis of "am I being a useful idiot for someone else's agenda?"

Think nearly impossible not to be brainwashed for some agenda.

The brain and emotions of humans are, if nothing else, malleable.

Some of use keep this in mind by habit and experience.

I do not buy the official tale of 9-11.