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Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:53 pm

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MacCruiskeen » Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:02 am wrote:
Forget "Mass Formation Psychosis" or any of that amoral, shallowly-psychologising, pseudoscientific, excuse-making crap. What we're looking at is depravity, a carefully-coordinated campaign of mass terror by a ruthlessly-lying ruling class and its army of careerist servants against a cowed, bamboozled and demoralised populace.

Insult is added to injury when anyone with an intact moral sense, a still-functioning brain, a healthy capacity for anger, and an ounce of care for others is denounced and slandered and accused of selfishness and worse.


Mac posted the above specific to Germany, but the same is applicable anywhere else. The U.S. hasn't yet succumbed to the more blatantly overt police measures yet (though NYC and a few other urban locales come close), but if the majority remain dutifully subservient, it will only be a matter of time.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:25 pm

See, this is it, this is "Public Health" in 2022, instituted worldwide by flabby fascists: The great athlete Novak Djokovic, quite possibly the healthiest man in the world, is forbidden to enter Australia because he refuses to be a coward:

Herald Sunb@theheraldsun
BREAKING: Novak Djokovic has had his visa cancelled
https://twitter.com/theheraldsun/status ... 4018859008


His body's in undeniably fine form. It's his mind, his heart, his soul they're worried about.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:36 pm

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He's a Serb, so won't bend. This could get interesting.

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/ ... -exemption

BRISBANE, Australia -- Novak Djokovic's chance to play for a 10th Australian Open title was thrown into limbo early Thursday when the country denied him entry and canceled his visa because he failed to meet the requirements for an exemption to COVID-19 vaccination rules.

The top-ranked Djokovic landed in Australia late Wednesday after receiving a medical exemption from the Victoria state government that would shield him from the strict vaccination rules in place for this year's first major tennis tournament, which begins Jan. 17.

But border authorities did not accept the exemption. The Australian Border Force issued a statement saying Djokovic failed to meet entry requirements.

Health Minister Greg Hunt said the visa cancellation followed a review of Djokovic's medical exemption by border officials who looked "at the integrity and the evidence behind it.''

The president of Djokovic's native Serbia's blasted the "harassment'' of the star, who was detained overnight at Melbourne Tullamarine Airport. The 20-time major winner had to wait more than eight hours at the airport to find out if he would be allowed into the country.

Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison said nobody was above the rules.

"Mr. Djokovic's visa has been canceled. Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our borders," Morrison posted on Twitter. "No one is above these rules. Our strong border policies have been critical to Australia having one of the lowest death rates in the world from COVID, we are continuing to be vigilant.''

Hunt said Djokovic was free to appeal the decision. "But if a visa is canceled, somebody will have to leave the country.''

A source close to the tournament told Reuters that Djokovic plans to apply for an injunction against the decision. In the meantime, Djokovic was taken to a government detention hotel in the suburb of Carlton.

The same source told Reuters that the visa and paperwork that Djokovic had used to gain entry into the country was of the same kind as three other players who had already arrived. Australian media reported that Djokovic's team applied for the wrong type of visa.

The medical exemption had been designed to allow Djokovic to play in the Australian Open, regardless of his vaccination status for COVID-19. He has spoken out against vaccines in the past and has steadfastly refused to acknowledge whether he received any shots against the coronavirus.

Djokovic's father, Srdjan Djokovic, told the B92 internet portal that his son was held at the airport "in a room which no one can enter'' and guarded by two police officers.

Djokovic's participation in the Australian Open has been a hot political topic, with many Australians furious that he was granted an exemption to enter the country.

Meanwhile, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said on Instagram that he spoke to Djokovic while he was being held at the airport, prior to the ruling that his visa had been revoked. Vucic said Serbian authorities were taking measures "so the harassment of the best tennis player in the world be stopped in the shortest possible time.

"In line with all norms of international law, Serbia will fight for Novak, truth and justice. Novak is strong, as we all know."


Vucic had summoned the Australian ambassador in Belgrade and demanded that they immediately release Djokovic to play, Serbian media reported.

Djokovic's revelation on social media that he was heading to Australia seeking a record 21st major title sparked some debate and plenty of headlines on Wednesday, with critics questioning what grounds he could have for the exemption and backers arguing he has a right to privacy and freedom of choice.

Australian Open tournament director Craig Tiley defended the "completely legitimate application and process'' and insisted there was no special treatment for Djokovic.

The Victoria state government mandated that only fully vaccinated players, staff, fans and officials could enter Melbourne Park when the tournament begins.

Only 26 people connected with the tournament applied for a medical exemption and, Tiley said, only a "handful'' were granted.

Among the acceptable reasons for an exemption are acute major medical conditions, serious adverse reaction to a previous dose of COVID-19 vaccine or evidence of a COVID-19 infection within the previous six months.

Djokovic tested positive for the coronavirus in June 2020 after he played in a series of exhibition matches that he organized in Serbia and Croatia without social distancing amid the pandemic.

Speculation of a possible issue with Djokovic's visa emerged while he was in transit and escalated with mixed messages from federal and state lawmakers.

Morrison initially said the medical exemption decision was a matter for the government of Victoria, where Melbourne is the state capital.

"They have provided [Djokovic] with an exemption to come to Australia, and so we then act in accordance with that,'' Morrison said. "States provide exemptions for people to enter on those basis, and that's been happening for the last two years.''

Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews then clarified the border process.

"While the Victorian government and Tennis Australia may permit a non-vaccinated player to compete in the Australian Open, it is the Commonwealth government that will enforce our requirements at the Australian border,'' Andrews said. "If an arriving individual is not vaccinated, they must provide acceptable proof that they cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons to be able to access the same travel arrangement as fully vaccinated travelers.''

When asked again about Djokovic's case later Wednesday, Morrison added: "If that evidence is insufficient, then he won't be treated any different to anyone else and he'll be on th

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:00 pm

^^ Good!

Let's see if these bastards dare to give Djokovic the Assange treatment.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:45 am

"Rules are rules, especially when it comes to our orders,"


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:04 am

Djokovic situation is pretty funny. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews told Djokovic he couldn't come. Then Melbourne's wealthy establishment, who are especially fond of the tennis, told Daniel Andrews Djokovic would be coming at one of the dinner parties he attends regularly. But then Scott Morrison stopped Djokovic coming at the last second in a hilarious 'vote winner' of a media stunt to undermine Daniel Andrews with his provaxx base.

Meanwhile though, up north the enthusiastic Michael Gunner is putting his territory back into another lockout, but this time with some slight modifications:

The whole of the NT has been put into a lockout from 1pm today, until midday on Monday.

Lockouts are not new in the Territory – they've been implemented a number of times before, including in Darwin and Katherine — but this marks the first time there's been one Territory-wide.

And there have been some changes to the usual rules this time round.

However, unvaccinated people aged 16 and over will only be allowed to leave home for three reasons: to access medical treatment including COVID testing or vaccination, for essential goods and services such as groceries, and to provide care to a vulnerable family member or person who can't support themselves.

They also won't be allowed to travel more than 30 kilometres from their home if they leave it for one of the three reasons, unless they're going to hospital.

An important difference to the lockout rules this time is that unvaccinated people won't be able to leave their homes for work or exercise.

Chief Minister Michael Gunner has said that's because limiting movement for the next few days is "critical" and the government doesn't consider people leaving their homes for those reasons as essential.

- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/ ... /100742190

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:15 am

drstrangelove » 06 Jan 2022 19:04 wrote:Djokovic situation is pretty funny. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews told Djokovic he couldn't come. Then Melbourne's wealthy establishment, who are especially fond of the tennis, told Daniel Andrews Djokovic would be coming at one of the dinner parties he attends regularly. But then Scott Morrison stopped Djokovic coming at the last second in a hilarious 'vote winner' of a media stunt to undermine Daniel Andrews with his provaxx base.


Morrison pulled that stunt so now everyone will talk about Joker and your best mate Dans Andrew instead of how the Morrison government is now making people pay for their own compulsory covid testing.

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So his mate Gerry Harvey can get even richerer.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:02 am

Look at the sheer depravity on display in this BBC headline, in the whole article (which ranges far beyond India), in the entire institution of jourrnalism and the powers it serves:

Covid-19: Can alcohol, cooking oil tempt unvaccinated Indians?
By Sharanya Hrishikesh, BBC News, Delhi
20 December 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-59694246


Not "mass psychosis" but depraved "professionalism" in support of state terror. A global war of attrition, a relentless campaign to demoralise and corrupt the people, erode their independence, and destroy their health.

Can opium tempt unaddicted Chinese?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:03 am

MacCruiskeen » 06 Jan 2022 11:00 wrote:^^ Good!

Let's see if these bastards dare to give Djokovic the Assange treatment.


You are cooked!!!

"The Assange Treatment" LOL.

Where were you over the last decades when a plethora of people, some whose views I abhor, were banned from traveling to Australia cos of their views and the fact they would present them in public?

That's worse - banning people for their opinions!!!

WE've been quarantining the unclean here since the country was founded.

The Assange Treatment - Imprison him for over a decade and destroy his life? Okay...

You'd make a good politician Mac.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:09 am

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:16 am

This useful Italian twitter account carries short film clips showing the extent of the fascist coup and the protests and growing resistance to it, nationwide and worldwide:

https://twitter.com/RadioGenova

Italy has just made Pricking compulsory for everyone over 50.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:37 am

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Particularly noteworthy are the increases in deaths -- in 2021, after vaccines were mass-deployed, compared to 2020, pre-vaccine rollout -- among the 65 and under age groups, when the average age of death for covid is over 80.

Lockdowns were also far more prominent in 2020 compared to 2021, so lockdown-related deaths would be more of a factor in 2020 (with some carry over into 2021, but not enough to explain the variance).

I anticipate the months ahead will add better clarity to these figures -- for better or worse.


What Is Going On With Deaths?

Proponents of the Covid vaccines argue that they should not be judged on the number of cases we are seeing but their ability to reduce deaths in the population.

I think we can see why you hear that argument a lot these days.

Over 1 million new cases were reported in the United States yesterday. Some of these are a result of delayed reporting during the holidays but it is still an astounding number.

That is over 3x higher than any single day in last season's peak. The 7-day average is twice as high as last winter's peak.

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Source: NY Times

We are seeing similar patterns in other highly vaccinated countries.

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Let's take a look at the mortality data and put this subject in context.

Before the pandemic, there were about 2.8 million deaths per year in the United States. It has been remarkably consistent number year in and year out in the past.

Of these, about 2.1 million were of those age 65+ and .7 million were under age 65.

In 2020, total deaths increased to 3.35 million----an increase of over 500,000.

The CDC official tally shows 385,430 Covid deaths in 2020.

This chart provides you with a graphic view of where we were on deaths pre-pandemic and what 2020 looked like.

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Complete data on deaths in the United States for 2021 is not available as the reports lag between the death certificates being filed in each state and those deaths being reported to the CDC.

However, as of December 29, the CDC was showing 3,231,874 deaths thus far in 2021 of which 429,376 were Covid deaths.

The CDC data typically lags at least one month behind actual death reports. Therefore, it would be expected that the final numbers for deaths in 2021 would need a completion factor of at least 1.08 (1/12) so that we can compare the expected final mortality numbers in 2021 with 2020.

Below is the same chart above with 2021 included using CDC actual numbers (as of 12/29/21) adjusted by a 1.08 completion factor on all deaths and Covid deaths.

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As you can see, total deaths, deaths from Covid and excess deaths will be higher in 2021 than in 2020.

The vaccines have been effective at reducing deaths but overall deaths and Covid deaths have increased in 2021 with vaccines compared to 2020 without them?

Where is the logic in this?

How can this be called "effective"?

What is most troubling is to see the breakdowns in deaths between those under age 65 compared to those over age 65.

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Deaths for those age 65+ are up 19% in both 2020 and 2021 compared to the pre-pandemic year of 2019.

However, deaths for those under age 65 are up 35% in 2021compared to the 2019 level. Deaths were up 22% in these ages between 2019 and 2020.

When in human history has there ever been an effective vaccine introduced in which deaths went up?

This is particularly true for those under age 65 comparing 2021 vs. 2020.

Covid deaths in this age group almost doubled despite vaccines being available in 2021?

Vaccine advocates would argue that is because the Delta variant is more deadly. That is the reason that Covid deaths increased in 2021. It would have been SO MUCH WORSE without the vaccines.

They would further argue that the fact that age 65+ deaths did not increase further in 2021 was due to high vaccination rates in this age group. Covid deaths doubled in those under age 65 in 2021 because these age groups were not as fully vaccinated.

It is good argument if it could be proven that the Delta variant was actually much more lethal than the original Covid strain.

However, there is no hard evidence to prove that. The CDC even admits that in their discussion of Delta on its website.

The CDC states that it is the unvaccinated who should have greatest concern about Delta while the "highly effective" Covid vaccines will continue to almost always prevent severe disease and death for the vaccinated.

The COVID-19 vaccines approved or authorized in the United States are highly effective at preventing severe disease and death, including against the Delta variant. But they are not 100% effective, and some fully vaccinated people will become infected (called a breakthrough infection) and experience illness. For all people, the vaccine provides the best protection against serious illness and death.


This is the best article I could find that summarized the data on the science concerning the lethality of the Delta variant.

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Source: https://www.king5.com/article/news/veri ... 948d1ec9bf

The delta variant is the dominant COVID-19 strain worldwide, but is it deadlier than the other variants?

The delta variant is often called “highly transmissible” and “more-deadly,” but is that true?
To verify, we compiled studies out of China, India, Scotland and consulted with Dr. Larry Corey, who is coordinating all of the COVID-19 vaccine research in the U.S.

"There's no evidence that it's more deadly,” said Corey. “There is evidence that it's more infectious and more infectious to others, i.e., more transmissible. But [is it] actually more severe? There's really not good hard evidence of that."


Therefore, if there is no good evidence that Covid was more lethal in 2021 than 2020, why are deaths up in 2021?

More and more questions are starting to be asked.

An example is the recent statement from the CEO of life insurance company OneAmerica that they are seeing deaths rates that are up 40% over pre-pandemic levels in their group life claims among working age people ages 18-64.

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The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

“We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

“And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

“Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”


The 40% increase he cites in the death rate of 18-64 year olds is very similar to the 35% rate I calculated above in the under age 65 CDC data. When you exclude the observed low death rates in the 1-17 year old age groups in the last two years ( which are included in my numbers), the 40% number this CEO cites appears to be very close to the CDC data referenced above.

Let me provide some more context on what a 40% deviation from the norm means in statistical terms.

The life insurance CEO refers to a 10% deviation as a three-sigma event. The CEO said that this would be classified statistically as a one-in-200 year catastrophe.

A six-sigma event, which is the 20% deviation seen in deaths for the age 65+ age group, would be considered to be a one-in-300,000 year event.

A 40% deviation (what we have seen in the 18-64 age group at OneAmerica) would be considered by statisticians to be a 12-sigma event. A statistician that I follow commented on the OneAmerica data and explained what the chances of that occurring are.

A 12-sigma event is where geeky statisticians who have seen enough tables to know the round-numbers by heart have to look up the capacity of their software package to see if it's well enough powered to perform the calculation. Whatever it is, it's far more likely that an asteroid collides with Indiana tomorrow, ejecting 400 basketball-sized fragments as it falls that each make a perfect swoosh through the nets in every cornfield basketball hoop in the Hoosier state two seconds before destroying all of human civilization (really, I computed that in my head).



The CEO explained that the huge increase in mortality in the insurance claims they have received cannot be explained by Covid based on the death certificates accompanying the death claims.

That statement is also supported in the CDC data I used in developing the charts above.

Covid deaths explain only about half of the increase in excess deaths in the under age 65 age group.

What is causing the other excess deaths?

We know drug overdoses are up over the last two years.

We know suicides have increased.

What else could it be?

I found it interesting that the CEO stated that OneAmerica was also seeing an increase in disability claims in the working age population at the same time that deaths were increasing.

He said at the same time, the company is seeing an “uptick” in disability claims, saying at first it was short-term disability claims, and now the increase is in long-term disability claims.


Why is it that you can have deaths increasing by 40% in the working age population of the country (those most responsible for keeping the economy going and paying the taxes that support the society) and there are not more people asking what is going on?

Why is this happening?

One thing is for certain.

You don't see this CEO or much of anyone else who risks being censored raising any question as to whether the policy responses to the pandemic (lockdowns, school closures, etc) did more harm than good.

Are the excess deaths related to the response?

What other explanation could there be?

You also certainly don't see him questioning what role the vaccines might be playing in all of this. That would be a sure path for this man to soon being an ex-CEO considering the current environment.

I don't know the answer as to what is going on with deaths.

However, it is difficult to find support for the argument that the vaccines are highly effective in preventing deaths when deaths have increased over the last year.

It is especially troubling that deaths in the working age cohort have increased even more after the introduction of the vaccines.

Not just a little.

By orders of magnitude that are almost incomprehensible when viewed through science----actuarial science.

In the end, the data always wins.

However, as has been the case from the beginning of this pandemic, very few people in charge are looking at the data and most everyone is afraid to challenge the narrative.

If there is one thing we should hope and pray for in 2022 it is that more people will start asking two simple questions.

What is going on?

Why has this happened?

And those in a position to know should start providing honest answers.


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:00 am

Are the excess deaths related to the response?

What other explanation could there be?


Thousands. I enjoyed the read and it's a good rundown but that line really stuck out to me as curiously lazy, both in terms of the reasoning that got him there and in terms of the explanative power of "related to the response," which glosses over a massively complex system composed entirely of moving parts.

For one thing, it remains possible that nCoV has sleeper effects that we haven't come to grips with yet because the long-term data isn't available yet -- "the data always wins" is perhaps naive faith but in principle, sure, yeah.

In my personal experience, most of the people who are concerned about "long covid" are not, if you will permit me some technical jargon, whiny neurotic bitches. They are day laborers with families and lunatic grade work ethics, they are lifelong athletes, and many of them are younger than me. If not for this personal experience, I would likely write off the entire phenomenon of "long covid" as hypochondria and anxiety; as do many of the researchers I respect and work with. I am less sure.

As the recent development of Omicron coming from yet another lab leak indicates, the current situation is ripe for both unintended and intentional black hat fuckery. It is very easy to knock people off right now if you have the means to ensure their corpse will get a positive PCR test, for instance -- and bigger picture, it's an ideal environment for testing out novel bioweapons in the wild.

There are also chemical and microplastic considerations in a world where everyone has taken on new behaviors like breathing through masks they've mostly bought in stores or online, but that's more of a moon shot outlier. Since nCoV appears to be both long since endemic and highly transmissable, it's the prime suspect in terms of the anomalies that actuary tables are starting to record.

I completely agree with Mr. Beekin that this data is significant, and indeed, probably some of the first solid numbers we've had at all, given how politicized and plastic the "case numbers" have been this whole time.
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