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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:30 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:21 pm wrote:


This is disturbing. Not only are these cops fucked (nothing unusual there tho) all those cowards standing around letting them get away with it.


What the hell is wrong with you? You accused aboriginal people in Australia of cowardice for not fighting a pitched battle with an army of heavily armed and armoured cops, now you're accusing a few dozen people in Germany of cowardice for not attempting the same feat, while you continue sitting on your arse in your cosy rural retreat, lolling and browsing and spectating and LOLing, having spent nearly two fucking years accusing anyone who stood up anywhere against this blatantly obvious scam of being a fucking neo-Nazi.

Unlike you, they are at least brave enough to get out and protest at the destruction of freedom worldwide. They are at least bodily present and shouting in outrage when women and old men get grabbed and dragged away for refusing to sit on their arses spectating safely online and LOLing incessantly like you.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:25 pm

Jeff Wells @JeffWellsRigInt 1 hr ago

Fact checkers stroking out.

Pfizer plans "to use mRNA to deliver edits that, if successful, would change a person’s DNA. 'It is a really positive sign that Pfizer and pharma in general are starting to pay attention to the gene-editing field.'"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... with-deals

https://twitter.com/JeffWellsRigInt/sta ... 6298960898
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:39 pm

I was about 15 the first time I was bashed by coppers.

Unlike you I've been there with indigenous people (and others at other times) at pitched battles with cops, busted people out of divi vans at protests and lived my life outside the oppressive system you constantly whinge about (at no small personal cost either) as much as I possibly could.

There was no worldwide freedom, your just seeing the results of the tables, chairs and curtains being removed.

As for old mate in the singlet. This is what I said:

If he was actually credible where is the violence? He claims people are using bioweapons on his community and he's not at war with them? He's a coward then.


I called it bullshit because if what he was claiming was true there would have been fighting. Not just him but whole communities of young men. That there wasn't proves my point. (Not that he was there in those communities in question, he was 100s of km away.)

You're imagining something that never happened there. Not one video emerged of whatever you imagine happened. (I dunno maybe you think they're too primitive to use the cameras on their tracking devices.)

You don't understand indigenous people and got offended when I pointed out they'll be more likely to punch you than listen to you cos of the way you carry on like a pork chop. They won't take the sort of shit from cops that all those people in that crowd did. Look up Palm Island and the riots that happened there after a young man was kneed in the kidneys and died after being taken into custody. They burnt the cop shop down, burnt down the home of the copper responsible, set the courthouse on fire and chased every cop off the island. Half the rioters were high school kids.

I've got friends who grew up in Germany. One is a black bloc vet from the environmental riots in the 80s.

I think about how he described things and see what you post and my first thought is "these soft wankers are taking the piss."
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:48 pm

For nearly two years, you've defended and propagated pseudoscience, vilified all protest as far-right, slandered and LOLed at anyone who resisted the fearporn, said not a word against the masking of children, the curfews and lockdowns and lies and police brutality. Now you've noticed the wind is changing, so you're hastily trying to reposition yourself as some kind of heroic Street Fightin' Man. Nastiest of all, you're repeatedly calling people cowards who are clearly much braver than you are.

Spare us it. The thread is well over 300 pages long. People can read.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:57 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 11 Jan 2022 01:17 wrote:
stickdog99 » 11 Jan 2022 09:22 wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10387219/DAN-WOOTTON-Djokovic-whipping-boy-angry-Australians.html

The shameful and scandalous Novak Djokovic court case was, like so many other pandemic-era made-for-media events, pure Covid theatre.

While the Serb has now become an international symbol for fighting against coronavirus tyranny, the unsavoury saga shows just how far usually freedom-loving Australia has fallen down the rabbit hole of virus-inspired authoritarianism over the past two years.

The vicious attitude from local politicians and most Aussies shows the real dangers of a Zero Covid policy.

As I've been warning since 2020, it makes society nasty and inward looking – millions of paranoid residents now suspiciously regard international arrivals, even those with Australian passports – even sometimes their own relatives - as plague rats, determined to spread 'deadly' Covid Down Under.

Vaccination mandates have been accepted by most of the Australian media and politicians as an unquestionable necessity, with those who choose to remain unjabbed worthy of being alienated from society and individually shamed.

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The growing outrage from honest Aussies fighting for liberty and freedom has been largely censored by the mainstream media, with massive protests given short shrift and anyone who dares lift their head above the parapet dismissed as an irresponsible anti-vaxxer.

So Djokovic most likely had no idea he was entering a tinderbox of confected outrage ready to explode as he flew into Australia after announcing on Instagram just six days ago, 'I'm heading Down Under with an exemption permission.’

With Prime Minister Scott Morrison facing what's expected to be a close election within months and the media quick to express outrage at the so-called double standards, within 24 hours Djokovic had become the most hated man in Australia.

Two years of such draconian policies has made Aussies angry.

Locking Djokovic up in a refugee quarantine hotel and doing whatever necessary to make it look like he was being handed tough treatment became a political necessity for Morrison.

But the entire farce shames the PM, opposition politicians and the Aussie authorities who blindly went along with it all.

As the incredulous judge Anthony Kelly in today's show trial pointed out, the government acted 'unreasonably' when it reversed Djokovic's visa and tried to deport him for violating Covid vaccine rules.

Djokovic HAD followed all the rules, closely negotiating with tennis authorities in a bid to prove his natural Covid infection within the past six months meant it would still be possible to enter unvaccinated.

But that was never going to be good enough for a country which has seen its moral compass turned upside down thanks to a hysterical and over the top response to a virus.

The treatment of Djokovic was about local politics, not public health or the safety of Australians.

In reality, the most devastating thing for public health in Australia has been two years of some of the most draconian and ultimately failed lockdowns in the world, including the near total closure of the international borders, illegally banning citizens trapped overseas for much of that time.

Such a policy meant, until the inevitable Omicron outbreak, there was virtually no natural immunity, so Covid is now predictably ripping through society, as it was always going to.


The lockdowns didn't fail. They stopped the spread of those earlier variants with shitloads less cases, illness and death than anywhere else in the world.

Why don't you people acknowledge that? Remember what Goebbels said about repeating a lie often enough.

What's more stupid?

People wanting vaccine passports for vaccines that don't stop infection or people claiming lockdowns in Australia did nothing when they stopped covid in its tracks three times?

This is one of those situations where both sides of an argument are wrong about stuff and they won't admit it because they have tiied their identity to it. IE its identity politics.

Its hard to seperate those two positions in terms of stupidity stakes imo.

BTW The reason Jokavich is so disliked in Australia is cos of his poor sportsmanship. He was an easy target. And elite tennis players are the most privileged sportspeople in the world. if they act like jerks then they don't have much popularity. Everyone here knows that a month ago Joker tested positive for COVID then went and hung around with a bunch of people including kids. Instead of isolating. Just the act of a privileged wanker with no care for other people. Typical religious fundy. And yet he isn't even the worst looking person in this debacle.

Its fucken hilarious that most incompetent moron we've ever had in charge of managing this country used him for political mileage and fucked it up.


It's as if people have somehow gotten the bizarre idea that "stopping covid in its tracks" is the greatest good in the world and thus is in and of itself worth giving up any conceivable right.

For what? What did Australia actually gain by "stopping covid in its tracks" three times? All of you idiots still poisoned yourselves with just as many vaccines and boosters anyway and somehow you also still managed to live in more unreasonable fear of COVID-19 than any other place on Earth other than perhaps New Zealand. For what exactly? What is the age of mortality of the average Australian COVID-19 victim? Do you even know?

And now, despite all your happy trading of your basic human rights in order to "stop COVID in its tracks" and all those mandated vaccines and boosters, you have still had about half a million cases in just the last week. And that's just the beginning. So what has all the cowering in fear actually achieved?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Postby alwyn » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:45 am

in other news, Betty White died after getting a stroke three days after her last booster. But it's not due to the vaccine, and they don't want her death politicized, she died of natural causes.

on another note, I appreciate each and everyone's views here. let's not kill each other, neh?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:45 am

MacCruiskeen » 11 Jan 2022 12:48 wrote:For nearly two years, you've defended and propagated pseudoscience, vilified all protest as far-right, slandered and LOLed at anyone who resisted the fearporn, said not a word against the masking of children, the curfews and lockdowns and lies and police brutality. Now you've noticed the wind is changing, so you're hastily trying to reposition yourself as some kind of heroic Street Fightin' Man. Nastiest of all, you're repeatedly calling people cowards who are clearly much braver than you are.

Spare us it. The thread is well over 300 pages long. People can read.



No all I've done in this thread is call out inaccurate bullshit. You don't even know my attitude to all this. You certainly don't know enough about science to even use the word pseudoscience in any way except the following:

"I MacCruiskaren propagate pseudoscience."

The rest off its your opinion which I obviously don't give rats about.

The things I question are the things I find inaccurate. None of you can answer on those specifics so mostly people vaccilate or repeat stuff that I just don't rate. Like the Cowan fella. LOL.

Other posters here think I would happily call the cops on people who aren't vaccinated. Some of my best mates aren't vaccinated. Literally "Some of my best friends..." I don't hassle them about it - its their choice. I still hang out with them and even share joints or hash pipes and vapes with them, even tho covid is everywhere round here. I'm vaccinated and in my 50s. I don't give a fuck if I get Covid any more. Its just more immunity in the long term. Especially this Omicron version.

Seriously you lot are as bad as the pro mandate fascists people on the other side who you criticise.

Your problem Mac is you live several lightyears away from any trace of nuance and want to pick a fight with anyone who doesn't share the exact same, narrow, dogmatic world view. You are just like any other bully.

If you think I've done most of that stuff then good for you. You'll make a great politician.

But when have I defended police brutality ever?

I removed what I posted about that in respect of what alwyn posted. Luckily for your nose.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:13 am

stickdog99 » 11 Jan 2022 13:57 wrote:
It's as if people have somehow gotten the bizarre idea that "stopping covid in its tracks" is the greatest good in the world and thus is in and of itself worth giving up any conceivable right.

For what? What did Australia actually gain by "stopping covid in its tracks" three times? All of you idiots still poisoned yourselves with just as many vaccines and boosters anyway and somehow you also still managed to live in more unreasonable fear of COVID-19 than any other place on Earth other than perhaps New Zealand. For what exactly? What is the age of mortality of the average Australian COVID-19 victim? Do you even know?


We're an island at the arse end of the world miles from the rest of you. We've used and still use quarantine against plants, animals and people since white fellas got here and saw the damage their diseases did to the locals. It protects our food sources and our population.

Because of that we were able to lockdown three times and save shitloads of lives of people that otherwise would have died. You can compare the figures yourself. The rest of the world had higher average mortality rates since early 2020. We've had lower rates. So what we gained was more people still alive who didn't die of covid. Sure most of them are old and will die eventually. Maybe next week or more likely in a few months to years.

Most Australians who died are in their 80s. Most Australians who are infected are in their 20s or 30s. If more of us in that older cohort had been infected more of them would have died.

And now, despite all your happy trading of your basic human rights in order to "stop COVID in its tracks" and all those mandated vaccines and boosters, you have still had about half a million cases in just the last week. And that's just the beginning. So what has all the cowering in fear actually achieved?


You weren't here so you don't know nothing about it. You posted a graph just after this where it shows lockdown dates and then a massive increase in cases. Its literally the opposite of what you claim it is.

It doesn't show the dates all lockdowns and restrictions (including masks in buildings) had basically ended by - in December just before the huge increase in cases. (Did you know that? I have mentioned it in this thread quite a lot.)

How disingenuous is that!!!

The person who made that graph lied by omission.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:14 am




See this.

Its a lie.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:16 am

So Sickdog, when the CDC recently claimed that covid increased a kid's chance of diabetes they were basically lying.

How is your graph any different?

You may as well be the CDC. I'm looking at you both and I can't see any difference.

Stickdog

CDC

Stickdog

CDC


Looking at you both can't see any difference....

Are you happy about that?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:20 am

We are starting to see empty supermarket shelves downunder:

No RATs means meat, fruit and vegetables will be in short supply
Shops will be in short supply of chicken products, red meat, fresh fruit and vegetables in the coming weeks, with milk also at risk while the food supply chain is tested to breaking point by the huge numbers of workers in isolation due to COVID-19.

Farmers are still producing the same volume of meat, dairy, fruit and vegetables but there aren’t enough workers in transport, processing or distribution to get it into shops.

- https://www.theage.com.au/national/no-r ... 59nef.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:29 am

^^It's all going according to plan.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:46 am

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Biggest takeaway is that even the military knew Ivermectin works

btw, fuck James, he's a little weasel... but what happened to him was wrong.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:06 pm



What's a lie?

That Australia's draconian restrictions, now on just the unvaccinated, have managed to flatten the case curve vertically?
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