Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[stickdog99]

[alwyn]

Biggest takeaway is that even the military knew Ivermectin works

btw, fuck James, he's a little weasel... but what happened to him was wrong.

You have a source for that picture! mind boggling!

[Grizzly]

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[Grizzly]

You have a source for that picture! mind boggling!

[liminalOyster]

Is there a single independent source who has verified the supposed smoking gun document in the Project Veritas piece? I've looked and found nothing.

Edit: Should've added this related but not confirmatory piece from Interecept: https://theintercept.com/2021/11/03/cor ... ih-emails/

[stickdog99]

[Joe Hillshoist]

You have a source for that picture! mind boggling!

We (all, you included) need to see the origiunal source of that and to verify its provenence.

Cos if its true its litrerally a smoking gun.

Its not video of Dubya on the phone saying "make sure the second plane hits square on and the charges are primed..." but its close enough.

Its also the sort of thing that is easy to fake and perfect for discrediting people if it can be later shown to be fake.

[Joe Hillshoist]

See this.

Its a lie.

What's a lie?

That Australia's draconian restrictions, now on just the unvaccinated, have managed to flatten the case curve vertically?

Firstly your graph shows that lockdowns work. See how its a right angle? There are fuck all cases. Multiple lockdowns, many in the same place repeatedly. those little rough patches along the bottom were our outbreaks. The graph leaves out when the lock downs ended. it gives the impression they are ongoing. But some were short as outbreaks were contained with less than 100 cases. So the science (not The ScienceTM, just science) worked didn't it?

Secondly...

See the last little outbreak. It starts after the last red line with LOCKDOWN written next to it. That was delta for us.

When that bump flattens out NSW and Victoria effectively ended all restrictions. People I speak to in Melbourne say no one was enforcing mask use or vaccine passports. people did what they wanted. In NSW all restrictions were lifted.

That's where most of the cases are.

The graph leaves that out. People had enough of the science, we had 90% vax rates in those states and they wanted their lives back. Even if you get and give covid with a vaccination you are strongly protected against any potentially serious illness.

When we stopped restrictions that vertical line happened.

(So now restrictions are coming back.)

That graph fails to mention that. So its intentionally misleading.

Where I come from intentionally misleading people is known as lying.

Using data to imply the opposite of what happened is also lying and its base propaganda.

You teach critical thinking yeah?

Why didn't you apply any to your post?

[drstrangelove]

If you wear a bike helmet when walking down the stairs you are strongly protected against any potentially serious head injuries from slips and falls.

[Wombaticus Rex]

We (all, you included) need to see the origiunal source of that and to verify its provenence.

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Its also the sort of thing that is easy to fake and perfect for discrediting people if it can be later shown to be fake.

The venue it's being floated through should make anyone suspect that maneuver might be waiting in the wings. I am not as dismissive of mick twink dwarf James O'Keefe as most prog partisans are, because his second act has been far more interesting than the cheap provocations of his first.

Much like feral attack ginger Charles "Chuck" Johnson, O'Keefe has evolved into a serious player in the space where political machinations and opposition research begin to resemble actual journalism. And as I never get tired of saying, all journalism is the work of politically motivated actors; there is no neutral media, no objectivity.

In light of these alleged revelations, a few things: the document itself is mostly plausible as an internal C.Y.A. fact-finding memo, but to my horse sense it goes a bit off the rails when it starts proffering opinions on nCoV treatment regimes like Ivermectin. (And mind ye faithful, I'm like 80-90% on Ivermectin actually being a perfectly efficacious treatment that got bad-jacked for no other reason than a low profit margin and a high proximity to DJT45.) That just seems far beyond the scope of the bureaucracy at work here and it makes me suspicious.

Second, O'Keefe previously disclosed the practice of selling body parts from aborted fetuses. Somehow that has since been ensconced in fact-checker history as a hoax, or at best, one of those pesky "out of context" free radicals, but in the real world, O'Keefe landed a bombshell there, including video recordings of PP personnel frankly discussing pricing and procurement. PP won a lawsuit against the Veritas org not for falsehoods, libel or slander, but for recording those videos without permission per state law.

Third, consider the tireless and incredible volunteer research organization DRASTIC, who were piecing together the EcoHealth / Wuhan origins of nCoV almost as soon as it was being reported as a serious threat. To this day, their massive body of work is constantly used -- used as bombshell new headlines by yellow journalism types who don't cite or credit their work at all. This is something altogether different. There is a lot of buy-in from major media orgs and professional provocateurs like "Intellectual Dark Web" nerd / spy Eric Weinstein.

So, if real, this points towards NIH being targeted, or at least cut loose from the halo of protection, by some faction of the military industrial apparatus. Long term, even though Congressional inquiries are cheap show trials and empty noise, Fauci is turning out to be reliable red meat for the GOP base and the GOP is going to sweep the shit out of 2022 mid-terms. It is plausible that Fauci will actually go down for his craven malfeasance and cynical media manipulation.

This alleged document is either the beginning of that process or an inoculation against it, Alistair McAlpine style.

[MacCruiskeen]

@Nosferatrue
Seeing a lot of people saying stuff like "the narrative is crumbling" and "the lies are being exposed".
Pfizer is expanding capacity.
4 billion doses are to be produced in 2022.
Pfizer wouldn't do that if the expectation was that the crisis is over soon.
10:03 pm. · 11. Jan. 2022
https://twitter.com/Nosferatrue/status/ ... 9722200064

That's how much TheScience™ cares about the coherence or veracity of its fucking "narrative".

Meanwhile, on the TheDemocracy™ front, Germany's gleichgeschaltete ruling coalition still intends to make vaccination compulsory for the entire population by March. The same fascist legislation is imminent in Belgium, Spain, France and too many other countres to list.

Only determined and persistent mass resistance has any chance of stopping these mendacious and greedy charlatans. They are at war with humankind.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Another item of note Re: the GoF/O'Keefe leaks.

Controlled Opposition remains a possibility, but nothing more than speculation at the moment. The months to come will shed more light.
That aside, anything that can finally end Fauci as spokesperson/talking head is to be applauded, but I won't hold my breath.

Tidal Wave of Documents on Gain-of-Function and the Leak of the Virus

Stuff is starting to get interesting (and undeniable)

Robert W Malone MD, MS

There is so much news hitting the streets that is that is being censored by main stream media and social media today, that it is overwhelming easy comprehension.

Let’s start with the letter to sent to Secretary of the HHS, Xavier Becerra from Representatives Jim Jordan (Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary) and James Comer (Ranking Member, Committee on Oversight and Reform). Here is the opening excerpt:



The letter goes on:

Rather than be transparent with the Committee, HHS and NIH continue to hide, obfuscate, and shield the truth. By continuing to refuse to cooperate with our request, your agencies are choosing to hide information that will help inform the origins of the ongoing pandemic, prevent future pandemics, respond to future pandemics, inform the United States’ current national security posture, and restore confidence in our public health experts. HHS and NIH’s continued obstruction is likely to cause irreparable harm to the credibility of these agencies. The emails released today raise significant questions, including but not limited to:

1. Did Drs. Fauci or Collins warn anyone at the White House about the potential COVID-19 originated in a lab and could be intentionally genetically manipulated?

2. If these concerns were not shared, why was the decision to keep them quiet made?

3. What new evidence, if any, came to light about COVID-19 between February 1, 2020 and February 4, 2020 to alter the belief it originated in a lab?

4. Did Drs. Fauci or Collins edit the Nature Medicine paper entitled “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2”?

5. Would having this knowledge earlier have benefitted either vaccine or treatment development?

6. By February 1, 2020, were Drs. Fauci or Collins aware of the State Department’s warnings about WIV safety?

7. Would this warning have changed the early response to the COVID-19 pandemic?

These questions are vital to understanding this and future pandemic responses. Unfortunately, thus far, HHS and its subordinate agency have hidden behind redactions to shield these emails from public scrutiny. We call on you to immediately lift these redactions and produce the email communications to Congress. Further, considering the import of the above questions, we request Dr. Anthony Fauci be made immediately available to sit for a transcribed interview. Please respond by January 18, 2022 to confirm.

Thank you for your attention to this important matter.

The appendixes of this letter have a number of emails showing in detail what is alleged above. Again, please open the document and read for yourself. These emails are in of themselves the smoking gun that reveal the lies Dr. Fauci has told Congress about what he knew of the gain-of-function research.

If you want a detailed analysis of above letter and the appended emails, I recommend ZeroHedge Tyler Durden’s article entitled “House Republicans Release Damning Fauci Emails Suggesting Concealed Knowledge Of Lab Leak”.

More on the Project Veritas data dump.

Minor main stream media outlets are already trying to cast aspersions on the Veritas documents, although as of yet, they have yet to strike a direct hit. Their tactic out of the box are to attack Veritas, and smear the legitimacy of the documents (without evidence, near as I can tell). All the while, ignoring the contents of the documents themselves. Did “we” really expect anything more from them?

I will be the first to say that we don’t have full verification, but the report issued to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense by US Marine Corp Major Joseph Murphy on August 13th, 2021 appears to be the real deal so far. When Project Veritas contacted Major Murphy, he declined to talk about the documents, but Project Veritas reported that he said the following:



To me, the above statement doesn’t exactly sound like a denial. Something tells me that Major Murphy will be pushed one way or another to reveal more of what he knows. To either verify the legitimacy of his report or not.

First, I encourage everyone to read the actual report.

This report is damning on so many fronts. Read it. Read it. Read it.

If validated, it is as big as the Pentagon papers. This would mean that research funded and conducted by the US Government has caused the death of millions of people world wide. Just ponder that. I can’t hardly wrap my head around the idea. Shocking doesn’t describe how important this is. History will remember.

I am briefly going to focus on just one of tiny aspect of this report. The “how and why” this all happened:



Translated: The purpose of the gain of function research was to inoculate (vaccinate) bats found in caves in Yunnan, China where confirmed SARS viruses had been identified. This research project was to reduce the prevalence of bat SARS viruses found in bat populations there. Basically, the researchers were trying to build a bat attenuated virus spike protein vaccine to “enhance their immune memory.” Of course, remember the adage that one should not vaccinate into a pandemic or against a rapidly mutating RNA virus, as one does not want create vaccine escape mutants. But these researchers seemed unaware of this risk (they seemed unaware on a whole lot of issues, but that is beside the point here). Why vaccinate bats with viruses adapted to humans, you might ask? Major Murphy then details that the virus got accidentally released before it fully attenuated (attenuated means to be mutated to be non-pathogenic, presumably to bats and humans).



Now, I have all sorts of questions about this. My first and foremost question is why would the researchers chose a chimera that attaches to human ACE2 receptors as the target?

Warning- tortuous logic curves ahead…

Once again seeking to provide benefit of the doubt, I suspect that the logic must have been that by vaccinating the bats with such a construct, this would reduce the risk of developing a human adapted, ACE2-binding SARS-related virus in same bats. But if this is the case, then the logic is really convoluted. One would first develop a human adapted SARS-like virus which binds human ACE2, then attenuate this virus, then find a way to aerosolize it, then infect the bats. And apparently, somehow, before the attenuation step to adapt the human adapted virus to infect the bats, there was a lab leak.

I think that might have been the underlying logic and history, at least as far as I can figure out at this point.

I think that at this point we can all agree that more rigorous constraints on gain of function research are needed. And in my opinion, we need to renegotiate the biowarfare treaty.

However, how we can stop arrogant scientists with a sense of entitlement from doing reckless stuff with viruses is beyond me.

I also still question the legitimacy of this report. Provenance and chain of custody need to be established. A statement from Major Murphy to someone or a group other than the primary source of the documents would be a good start.

Please note that I have only touched on one tiny aspect of this report. Please go read it for yourself. It is jaw dropping in its detail and allegations.

I also know that it is time for Congress to step in and investigate. Are all of these documents real? Does Major Murphy’s report accurately detail all of the events in the report? Finally, I have complete faith that the Congressional Representatives Jim Jorden and James Comer intend to conduct this investigation. I just hope that the rest of Congress gets out of the way and lets them do their job.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/tidal ... on-gain-of

[Belligerent Savant]

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Covid Scotland: Case rates lowest in unvaccinated as double-jabbed elderly drive rise in hospital admissions

DOUBLE-JABBED Scots are now more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than the unvaccinated amid an increase in elderly people falling ill due to waning immunity.

It comes amid "weird" data showing that case rates have been lower in unvaccinated individuals than the single, double, or even triple-jabbed since Omicron became the dominant variant in Scotland.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/198 ... dmissions/

[MacCruiskeen]

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anything that can finally end Fauci as spokesperson/talking head is to be applauded

Fauci is 81 and was surely approaching his sell-by date already. RFK Jr's book might well persuade his owners that the time is ripe to sell him. He'll take his golden handshake and go, or he might conceivably (though it's very unlikely) even leave "in disgrace", like a mini-Nixon. It will make no damn difference to anything, because he'll be replaced by another unit, just as Hancock was replaced by Javid in the UK, and Spahn by Lauterbach in Germany. There's no shortage of spare parts. That supply chain is in perfect working order.

The only thing that can halt the conveyor belt is revolution. Feel free to cue the laugh-track, but remember that a world-changing revoluton has already been underway for two years: theirs. Right now they're laughing, though they're certainly not joking.

[Belligerent Savant]

It will make no damn difference to anything, because he'll be replaced by another unit

Indeed. But it'll be good to see him go, regardless.

The only thing that can halt the conveyor belt is revolution.

unwavering non-compliance. If done en masse, there is nothing that can be done to counter it.