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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby alloneword » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:55 am

OK, so the UKHSA data I posted showing negative vaccine efficacy against infection is one thing. But what about hospitalisation?

The wk 4 report states:
The rate of hospitalisation within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test increases with age, and is substantially greater in unvaccinated individuals compared to vaccinated individuals.


Defined as:
Cases presenting to emergency care (within 28 days of a positive test) resulting in overnight inpatient admission, by specimen date between week 52 2021 (w/e 02/01/22) and week 03 2022 (w/e 23/01/22)


The plot looks like this:

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That looks like a pretty good argument that the vaccines prevent hospitalisation. But is it the whole story?

To investigate further, you'd need better data. Data on what these people were presenting with, their pathway through the healthcare system and outcome (as in, there's a big difference between an overnight stay for observation and ending up in ICU breathing through a machine). Such data does exist, in the form of EPRs (Electronic Patient Records), but are not publicly available (even anonymised).

Long story short, someone (who knows what they're doing) got hold of a large dataset of EPRs (about a quarter of a million, that ran up to last September) and analysed it.

What he discovered was that, while the data appears to show vaccine effectiveness against 'Covid-19' hospitalisation, it also appears to show that the 'Covid-19 vaccine' is effective against such things as severity of injury from playing sport, alcoholic intoxication and food poisoning, curing cancer, diabetes, heart failure, hang gliding, diving, horse riding and doing strange things with [your] private parts.

No wonder people are 'queuing up' to get them.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby alloneword » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:03 am

Note: These are non-Covid admissions.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:36 am

alloneword » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:03 am wrote:Note: These are non-Covid admissions.


Wait, from the labeling it looks like all admissions, C and non-C. No?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:44 pm

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby alloneword » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:28 pm

JackRiddler » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:36 pm wrote:
alloneword » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:03 am wrote:Note: These are non-Covid admissions.


Wait, from the labeling it looks like all admissions, C and non-C. No?


??? Label at the top reads 'non-COVID +18y admissions', accompanying text reads:

If we take adult (+18y) non-COVID admissions and break vaccination status down into never vaccinated, admitted after the first dose but with no further vaccination and admitted after multiple doses (second dose and/or booster) we get this interesting chart.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:56 pm

@disclosetv

JUST IN - Canada's PM Trudeau and his family have left their home in #Ottawa for a secret location, CBC reports.

1:40 PM · Jan 29, 2022·


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby streeb » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:05 pm

Can I cautiously say this is the first time in a year that I haven't been consumed by despair?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:12 pm

^^^^

genuinely happy to see that sentiment expressed, however fleeting and/or premature.

It appears trucker convoys are also mobilizing in Italy and other nations, though haven't seen enough corroboration of it yet.

Moving aside from the (as of now positive) developments from Canada, this take is worthy of further consideration:

@birb_k

Covid Deaths vs. All-Cause Excess. A complex chart but stick with me. Does data tell a story? Four parts, sources at end.
FIRST, 2020 where Covid deaths & Excess All-Cause deaths within 10%. Maybe some knock-on effect from lockdowns, stress, etc. overall, curves fairly match.

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Covid Deaths vs. All-Cause Excess.
FOCUS PERIOD A.
After major peak, deaths plummet, esp seen in excess mortality data. Significant influences include accumulated natural immunity + seasonality. Vaccinations non-factor.
Deaths CODED/RECORDED as Covid 65% HIGHER than all-cause.

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Covid Deaths vs. All-Cause Excess.
FOCUS PERIOD B.
Major influencer is Vaccinations, with majority of Americans attaining full vax status.
All-cause Excess deaths show alarming rise, however publicly-reported Covid deaths 58% LOWER with media messaging: Vaccines are working.

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Covid Deaths vs. All-Cause Excess.
FOCUS PERIOD C.
Since Fall peak, U.S. has high level of acquired immunity, high level of vax, transitioned to milder variant. Yet deaths remain high & now climbing. We know natural immunity is effective & omicron is milder, so what is it?

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Covid Deaths vs. All-Cause Excess.
SUMMARY.
Deaths virtually identical 2nd half of 2021 vs. 2nd half of 2020. This despite no vaccinations in 2020 vs. high vaccinations in 2021, and high natural immunity in 2021. Why? Also, what’s up with Jan 2022? Is vax helping or harming?

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Sources used to construct graphics and for analysis:
JHU CSSE Covid deaths, https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID ... ime_series
U.S. Mortality, https://usmortality.com/excess-absolute
OWID, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Covidestim nowcasting, https://covidestim.org

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm

streeb » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:05 pm wrote:Can I cautiously say this is the first time in a year that I haven't been consumed by despair?


More or less that.
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Ivermectin adoption worldwide

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

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Global ivermectin adoption for COVID-19: 37%

Ivermectin is currently used for about 28% of the world's population. Countries where COVID-19 mortality is close to zero may not have incentive to adopt treatments. When excluding these countries, ivermectin adoption is about 37%. We excluded countries where the cumulative mortality over the preceding month was less than 1 in 1 million, according to the data at https://ourworldindata.org/). For the estimated population coverage, isolated use, some regions, mixed usage, and many regions use a factor of 0.05, 0.25, 0.5, and 0.75 respectively. Please send us corrections/updates.


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:43 pm

Convoy sweeps in, Con Boy sneaks out:

CBC News@CBCNews 5 hrs ago.
Amid security concerns, the prime minister and his family have been moved to an undisclosed location in the nation's capital, sources said.

Protesters urged to behave as convoy rolls into Ottawa -- CBS News
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:04 pm

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For those who don’t know: Neil Young’s Boss is Pfizer.
Neil young’s catalogue was bought by Merck Merculiadis. Merck owns Hipgosis group who is ALSO owned by Blackstone which is a 1B dollar music venture. Blackstones chairman is former Pfizer CEO Jeffrey Kindler #DeletedSpotify

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:06 pm

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:08 pm

Belligerent Savant » 30 Jan 2022 10:04 wrote:
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For those who don’t know: Neil Young’s Boss is Pfizer.
Neil young’s catalogue was bought by Merck Merculiadis. Merck owns Hipgosis group who is ALSO owned by Blackstone which is a 1B dollar music venture. Blackstones chairman is former Pfizer CEO Jeffrey Kindler #DeletedSpotify

https://twitter.com/Mikehun63452579/sta ... JTjI7bmCqA


So instead of just taking Mike's word for this I went and checked it out.

Blackstone's chairman is Stephen Schwarzman.

Kindler joined Blackstone as a senior advisor. There is no evidence to suggest Kindler had any influence on Young's decision. He may have but as Hipgnosis only own half of Young's publishing rights. Warner Music owns his other rights.

BTW I'm only pointing this out cos I'm a fascist who wants all of you dead from mRNA vaccines next week.

Not because accuracy, rigor and checking sources has been an integral, vital part of why this site was so good for years. That's not important at all.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:54 pm

Blackstone acquired Hignosis a couple months ago.
- https://www.blackstone.com/news/press/b ... royalties/

Trying to connect the dots on the corporate board seat circuit is a waste of time. I can link anyone who cares to the legal documents(global custody agreements) which give 5 custodian banks control over the boards of every publicly traded multi-national corporation of significance. This includes Warner brothers. The only exemptions are familiies who still retain control of their holding companies(like in the tv show Succession)

Now, for them to leverage this control is not that simple, but if they have the will to do so it can be done. And since people on the inside of this system know that this can be done, it often never needs to be. Private equity knows who their boss is, and if they don't they'll get a friendly visit from a Jeffrey Epstein, spend 12 months as his friend, then receive a video tape in the mail.

There is no evidence to suggest Kindler had any influence on Young's decision

This is a mob lawyer's defence. I agree there's no paperwork or recorded phone calls proving they told Neil to do this. But it's a fact that hignosis and Warner Bros gave Neil their blessing to do it at the cost of foregoing their royalties. So this was done in partnership, a kind of corporate counter culture thing. Like BLM.

The other Canadian, Jilo something, her catalogue is owned by Hassan Khosrowshahi's holding company.
- https://persisholdings.com/investments/dri-capital/

This holding company is invested in three things. Music copyrights. Commercial real estate. Pharmaceutical patents - https://dricapital.com

I've spent the last month researching Blackstone and BlackRock. I wanted to write an essay but I've written almost half a book. It's no coincidence they keep showing up everywhere.
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