Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[Belligerent Savant]

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There's at least 1 person in here that continues to hold firm to the canard that lockdowns were beneficial. Or however he currently chooses to frame it.

Johns Hopkins, January 2022: “While lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. [They] are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.”

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files ... tality.pdf

[Grizzly]

"MUST WATCH!!! Funeral Director John O'Looney Blows the Whistle on Covid"

https://odysee.com/@CosmicEvent:5/MUST-WATCH!!!-FUNERAL-DIRECTOR-JOHN-OLOONEY-BLOWS-THE-WHISTLE-ON-COVID:3

[Belligerent Savant]

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Trudeau Tests Positive For Fascism

OTTAWA—From an undisclosed hiding place outside Canada's capital city, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed for the world that he has tragically tested positive for fascism.

"I took the fascism test this morning," said Trudeau, beginning to sob. "And the test came back positive. I understand this may come as devastating news to freedom-loving Canadians, and I am here to assure you that everything will be ok... after I crush you underneath the jackboot of government tyranny until you learn to start obeying me."

"Together, we will achieve strength through unity, and unity through faith. In SCIENCE."

According to sources, Trudeau will remain in his hiding place under quarantine until all the scary protesting truckers go away, after which he will emerge to grind his people into the very dust until they accept his vision for a glorious fascist future for Canada.

Fortunately, his plans have been delayed as his replacement glue-on vanity eyebrows are still stuck on a delivery truck somewhere, and the fascist dictator refuses to be seen without them.

https://babylonbee.com/news/trudeau-tes ... or-fascism

[Harvey]

Every single person I know personally who has had 'covid' (tested positive) developed 'Covid' after receiving a 'vaccine' against 'covid'. There are no exceptions so far. Using the empirical method ('from experience') what should I conclude?

[Belligerent Savant]

REFUSE/RESIST.

Remaining protesters say they will not leave Ottawa until all COVID restrictions are lifted


Nathan (Jacko) Jack, an Australian living in Toronto, waves flags in front of trucks that are parked in front of Parliament Hill as a rally against COVID-19 restrictions, which began as a cross-country convoy protesting a federal vaccine mandate for truckers, continues in Ottawa, on Monday, January 31, 2022. THE CANADIAN PRESS/ Patrick Doyle

OTTAWA -- Crowds have thinned out considerably on Parliament Hill and the surrounding area, where anti-COVID restrictions demonstrators have been protesting for days.

But those that remain say they are staying put until all the restrictions are lifted, with the president of the Ottawa Gatineau Hotel Association saying some protesters have been extending their stays at hotels, or are asking to rebook for the coming weekend.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said yesterday he will not meet with anyone involved, noting reports that some participants have been seen harassing local businesses, waving Nazi flags, defecating on residential lawns, urinating on National War Memorial and stealing food from the homeless.


The Ottawa Paramedic Association reported that paramedics asked for police escorts after rocks were hurled at an ambulance from a truck in the convoy.

But Conservative Deputy Leader Candice Bergen said Trudeau was “gaslighting” the protesters, who deserve the chance to be heard and be given some respect.

She said the protesters she met with from her home province of Manitoba on Sunday are “good people, patriotic, peace-loving.”

Canada Unity, the group behind the convoy, originated during the 2019 pro-pipeline convoy to Ottawa but morphed into an anti-COVID restrictions protest after the pandemic began.

The vaccine mandate for truckers that took effect on both sides of the Canada-U.S. border earlier this month added more fire to the demands and helped trigger the bigger convoy that descended on Ottawa in the last week.

https://www.cp24.com/news/remaining-pro ... -1.5762501

[Belligerent Savant]

Grading the Governors: Who Locked Down and Who Opened?


BY MICHAEL BETRUS JANUARY 30, 2022 EDUCATION, HISTORY, POLICY
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Schools Open and Closed

Only two of the top ten highest deaths-per-capita states, Mississippi and South Dakota [ranked twenty in January 2022], had over half their schools open for face-to-face learning in the fall of 2020 and early 2021. This is relevant in that open schools did not correlate with higher COVID-19 deaths per capita.

Of the twenty states with 80% of their schools open for face-to-face learning in April 2021, their average COVID-19 deaths per capita were 1,654. Of the fifteen states with 50% or less face-to-face learning, their average COVID-19 deaths per capita were 1,539. The difference was insignificant. Smaller states with closed schools in Hawaii and Maine weighted that down, to where the average would have been near identical.

There was no correlation between more in-person learning and more people getting sick in communities. Hard data shows that tight restrictions did not result in any better results than light restrictions. Closing schools didn’t matter. Closing restaurants didn’t matter. Wearing masks didn’t matter. In the end two mitigation tactics worked: those vulnerable isolating, and social distancing, a form of isolation. The rest of the mitigations seem like they should have helped, but they just did not.

Grading the Governors
Not one governor performed perfectly during the pandemic and lockdowns. With media pressure, a desire to balance their constituents, and a desire to get reelected and move on to federal positions down the road, it was an enormously difficult job for all of them. For every single one, from Governors Newsom and Cuomo to Noem and DeSantis, it was the most challenging policy-making of their careers, and for any governor in perhaps American history. All grading below, like that for kids during their year-plus of remote learning, is on a curve. On that curve, here is how governors performed during the pandemic:

The A’s

Governors Ron DeSantis (FL), Kristi Noem (SD), Pete Ricketts (NE), and Mark Gordon (WY). No governors faced more media pressure than Noem and DeSantis. Noem never locked down her state. She never state-mandated face masks. She held strong during a very difficult surge in November and December 2020. She leads a state populated comparably to a metro Dallas county, and made more headlines for her stance than anyone not named DeSantis. Still, fewer than half the South Dakotan kids were forced out of class in 2020 and local governments were permitted to put up their own restrictions.

DeSantis led the third most populated state with a higher-than-average elderly population. Early on he put in protections in long-term care facilities. He locked down last and reopened in May 2020. He removed state restrictions in September 2020, even as COVID-19 activity rose in the fall. He kept more classes open in Florida than any other large population state. And with that, Florida had no worse results than the national average. The burden was not on DeSantis and Noem to beat the street with their open states. The burden was on the lockdown states to have better results and that did not happen. You could not look at a blank chart of states’ COVID-19 performance and pick out the tightly restricted versus looser states. For that, these bold governors get an A on the curve.

Mark Gordon kept schools open all 2020-2021 and for that he deserves recognition. A brief state mask mandate and allowing Teton County to require masks and close restaurants when we went climbing there in 2020 was frustrating. Still, on the curve, Gordon gets an A. Ricketts does as well, staying under the national radar while making Nebraskans glad to be Nebraskans.

The B’s

Governors Kim Reynolds (IA), Brian Kemp (GA), Doug Burgum (ND), Greg Abbott (TX), Kevin Stitt (OK), Henry McMaster (SC), Eric Holcomb (IN), Brad Little (ID), Mike Parson (MO), Asa Hutchinson (AR), Kate Ivey (AL), Gary Herbert (UT), and Tate Reeves (MS).

These governors all had state mandates at one point or another. Many of their kids missed school in 2020-2021 overall. Businesses were restricted and most had some mask mandates at one time or another. Still, we’re grading on a curve. These governors presided over fewer restrictions and few of their states ever broke the top ten in deaths per capita. Governor Abbott would have been a C had he not completely opened everything in Texas up without restrictions nor face masks in March 2021, leading the way back. That was the A move of any of these governors. Asa Hutchinson kept more kids in class than any governor not named DeSantis or Gordon.

The C’s

Governors Laura Kelly (KS), Bill Lee (TN), Steve Bullock (MT), Gina Raimondo (RI), and Doug Ducey (AZ). These governors at least allowed some kids to be in class throughout late 2020 and early 2021. Raimondo was surrounded with lockdown warriors keeping kids out of class and businesses closed, and she kept more kids in school than any state in the northeast or mid-Atlantic. Not enough kids, but we’re on a curve.

The D’s

Governors Jared Polis (CO), Ned Lamont (CT), Andy Beshear (KY), John Bel Edwards (LA), Mike Dunleavy (AK), Brad Little (ID), Mike DeWine (OH), and Jim Justice (WV). Few of these governors made headlines with their lockdown moves. None followed actual science, they went along with the pack and the polls. Their low grade is largely based on so few kids in class. Remember, science. [Jared Polis has since come around and made some sensible comments about the value of restrictions, he would be higher if this list was compiled months after my original work]

The F’s

Governors John Carney (DE), David Ige (HI), Janet Mills (ME), Tim Waltz (MN), Steve Sisolak (NV), Michelle Lujan (NM), Roy Cooper (NC), Kate Brown (OR), Ralph Northam (VA), Jay Inslee (WA), Tony Evers (WI), Larry Hogan (MD), Charlie Baker (MA), Chris Sununu (NH) and and Phil Scott (VT). Millions of their students were locked out of schools for over a year, thousands of businesses closed and they were defiant in opening up when it was clear where the science stood. The only salvage for Ige, Mills, Brown, Scott, Sununu and Inslee is that while they kept kids out of class and closed thousands of businesses, they did achieve low relative COVID-19 deaths and all-cause excess deaths. They likely would have anyway had they let kids get educated and let businesses function.

Complete Fails

Governors Andrew Cuomo (NY), Phil Murphy (NJ), Gavin Newsom (CA), Gretchen Whitmer (MI), J.B. Pritzker (IL), and Tom Wolf (PA). There’s a special place for governors that locked kids out of classrooms for a year and a half, ordered sick COVID-19 patients back into nursing homes, did not practice their own orders, shut down tens of thousands of businesses and still couldn’t beat the U.S average in COVID-19 deaths or excess all-cause deaths.

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https://brownstone.org/articles/grading ... ho-opened/

[DrEvil]

Anecdotes are anecdotes. Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital. I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

[Harvey]

Anecdotes are anecdotes. Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital. I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

And the plural of 'anecdote' is data. i.e. the scientific method.

As the entire point of my post has escaped you, I'll take you to task over your evasive phraseology.

Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital.

Did they die of Covid, with Covid or without Covid? Was the hospitalised in hospital because of Covid, with Covid or without Covid?

I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

In English: are you implying these vaccinated people tested positive or they were just sick? If the former, did they test positive after being vaccinated, before being vaccinated, or status unknown? Are you 'hesitant' to say?

You'll no doubt forgive me if I no longer consider you to be an honest broker.

[alwyn]

my GF's Mom was triple vaccinated and died from Covid. The doctors didn't believe she had covid, because she was triple vaccinated. The rest of her family was unvaxxed, and did fine. She died from Covid, not with covid. As long as we are trading anectdotes...

[DrEvil]

Anecdotes are anecdotes. Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital. I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

And the plural of 'anecdote' is data. i.e. the scientific method.

As the entire point of my post has escaped you, I'll take you to task over your evasive phraseology.

It didn't escape me, I just thought it was a bad point.

Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital.

Did they die of Covid, with Covid or without Covid? Was the hospitalised in hospital because of Covid, with Covid or without Covid?

Two died of covid (old but doing fine living at home, got covid, landed in the hospital, died), one tested positive, but died because her husband was so sick from covid he fell on top of her and broke some of her bones (brittle bones), which landed her in hospital alongside him, so he got to spend his last days drowning in his own fluids knowing he killed his wife.

The person in hospital is a woman in her forties with no underlying conditions, and she was there because of covid and nothing else. She just barely pulled through.

Is that enough detail?

I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

In English: are you implying these vaccinated people tested positive or they were just sick? If the former, did they test positive after being vaccinated, before being vaccinated, or status unknown? Are you 'hesitant' to say?

It's pretty obvious I meant vaccinated people who then tested positive for covid. Why would I be hesitant to say? Do you think it's some big secret that vaccinated people test positive all the time?

You'll no doubt forgive me if I no longer consider you to be an honest broker.

I never forgive! I will be brooding over this until my dying breath!

[Belligerent Savant]

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I know of numerous vaccinated injuries/lingering issues. I've heard from co-workers about first-hand accounts of deaths within a month after vaccination (previously considered relatively healthy individuals).

There's plenty more anecdotes here:

https://www.realnotrare.com/

and here:

https://www.theysayitsrare.com/
(this one is essentially comments posted on Twitter; more anecdotal/less verifiable. Even if only 50% are accurate, it remains damning)


Here's one example:

Zulma Alfonso
First Dose of Pfizer on 06/01/21 Lot #EW2245

United Kingdom

Q: What was your life like before you got the vaccine?
I was a 35-year-old healthy woman, who used to exercise 2-4 times a week.


Q: What was your reaction, symptoms, & timeline?
Everything started on 1st June when I had my first Pfizer vaccine. On 5th June, for the first time in my life, I had insomnia. That night I laid in bed for 7 hours waiting to fall asleep, but it never happened; I was not tired or worried, just had too much energy. Since then, the episodes of insomnia became more and more frequent, until it got to the point that I could not sleep at all without sleeping tablets. Doctors tried everything from Zopiclone to Diazepam but as soon as I stopped taking them, I could not sleep that night. The next side effect was jerking. This is the worst symptom by far. It feels like electric shocks in my body that happen randomly and only last a second, so I have not been able to video them. Every time I close my eyes to try and rest my brain, my whole body starts fighting against me to not let me sleep, no matter how tired or sleepy I feel. The jerking is strong and visible when my body is resting, it affects any part of my body: one minute it's my head and chest, and then my arm jumps, then my legs, and then my hips as if someone had pushed me suddenly. Every night is hell. I also have jerking during the day but it's not as bad as at night. Frequently in the morning, when I am waking up, my hands and fingers jump on their own; it is very scary. I feel that the insomnia issue has subsided (6 months after) as I do feel sleepy at night, but the problem is the jolting and fight or flight sensation after that. I also suffer other symptoms such as internal tremors (jolts inside me but not visible outside), brain zaps at night, twitches, headaches, pressure in the head, pins and needles, and numbness. Also, my menstrual periods are longer than usual (usually 3-4 days, now it is 7 days).


Q: What is your life like now, after getting the vaccine?
My whole life is on pause. I was studying to become a chartered accountant but had to stop it because I cannot get stressed as it worsen my symptoms. Not being able to sleep is very debilitating and it makes my symptoms worse too. My husband and I were planning to have a child right after my vaccines but we feel that this would be very bad for my health and would be impossible due to the damaging effect the medicine would have on a baby. I cannot exercise as any physical exertion makes my jerking much worse. I developed a lot of food intolerances after the vaccine too. Now I cannot drink alcohol or eat certain food as they increase my jolting. This problem became the one and only thing I spend my time and energy on. Finally, I have spent a lot of money on a private neurologist (the GP did not want to refer me at the beginning) and private tests (MRI and EEG) as well as a long list of vitamins, supplements and homeopath consultations. As I have not gotten better, I will keep looking and spending money trying every single treatment to finally recover. I hope I will keep my job to be able to afford all this.


Q: Share your experience with any medical care and any diagnoses you have received:
At first, my GP and neurologist thought it was anxiety. So I believed them at first and decided to take the second Pfizer shot, and even took some time off to "calm down". Unfortunately, I did not get any better. Doctors did the usual tests: MRI, EEG, EMG and they all came back okay, which was great, but it did not solve my problem. The neurologist gave me Amitriptyline, an antidepressant that made my symptoms worse: now I have brain zaps every time I try to sleep. He wants me to keep taking antidepressants until I get better, but I am not sure how I am going to get better if they can't find what is wrong and therefore treat it. I was on antidepressants for 5 months, then a month on benzodiazepines and now antihistamines. I have just been referred to another neurologist who specializes in movement disorders.


Q: Was your reaction reported, and what was the response?
I reported my symptoms to the Yellow Card system: I reported insomnia as a side effect on 3rd July 2021 and then the jerking on 15th December. I got a confirmation email, and that’s all the response I have received so far.


Q: Is there anything that has helped, and have your symptoms improved?
Valerian root, cyclobenzaprine and melatonin probably helped me sleep again. However my jolting is worse than ever and does not let me sleep. I still have to take medicine at night.


Q: What do you wish others knew?
I am desperate. If I had Covid, I would get diagnosed and be treated with the right medicine but as I am vaccine-injured, I am ignored, dismissed, and only treated with medicine that is not right for me and can actually make me worse (like anti-depressants). I have reported this in the yellow card scheme, but I wish doctors, scientists, and Pfizer itself would contact us and investigate people like me. I wish they would also find the right medicine or treatment for us. I am vaccine-injured, and doctors should not be dismissing me or misdiagnosing me - but actually reporting my case. This has been the most frightening time of my life, and I feel abandoned and hopeless.


#WeWantToBeHeard #RealNotRare


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Real Not Rare does not diagnose medical conditions, offer treatment advice, treat illnesses, or prescribe medicine or drugs. Anything contained on this website or conveyed in the blog stories or groups, is not substitute for adequate medical care, diagnosis, and/or treatment from a medical doctor. It is strongly recommended that prior to acting upon any information gleaned via Real Not Rare or their representatives, you at all times first consult a physician. The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual being interviewed in each story, and do not necessarily reflect the position of Real, Not Rare as a whole.

https://www.realnotrare.com/post/zulma-alfonso


Meanwhile, here's what pro-'vaccine' leadership looks like:

@LyndzBeck
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Finally found the tweet

https://twitter.com/LyndzBeck/status/14 ... rCjPmKjhYw

[Belligerent Savant]

Anecdotes are anecdotes. Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital. I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

And the plural of 'anecdote' is data. i.e. the scientific method.

As the entire point of my post has escaped you, I'll take you to task over your evasive phraseology.

It didn't escape me, I just thought it was a bad point.

Of the unvaccinated people I know, three died and one spent several weeks in hospital.

Did they die of Covid, with Covid or without Covid? Was the hospitalised in hospital because of Covid, with Covid or without Covid?

Two died of covid (old but doing fine living at home, got covid, landed in the hospital, died), one tested positive, but died because her husband was so sick from covid he fell on top of her and broke some of her bones (brittle bones), which landed her in hospital alongside him, so he got to spend his last days drowning in his own fluids knowing he killed his wife.

The person in hospital is a woman in her forties with no underlying conditions, and she was there because of covid and nothing else. She just barely pulled through.

Is that enough detail?

I don't know a single vaccinated person who got sick enough to even go to the doctor.

In English: are you implying these vaccinated people tested positive or they were just sick? If the former, did they test positive after being vaccinated, before being vaccinated, or status unknown? Are you 'hesitant' to say?

It's pretty obvious I meant vaccinated people who then tested positive for covid. Why would I be hesitant to say? Do you think it's some big secret that vaccinated people test positive all the time?

You'll no doubt forgive me if I no longer consider you to be an honest broker.

I never forgive! I will be brooding over this until my dying breath!

As unfortunate as these scenarios are, it sounds like at least 2 of them were of advanced age, is that right? No, this doesn't mean they deserved to die, of course, but it means that they would be typical candidates for a 'vaccine' -- any vaccine -- given their already frail state. This does not take away from the fact that FORCING these experimental shots on the young and healthy is highly unethical and criminal. Especially since it's now known these shots aren't sterilizing and/or prevent spread or contagion. Last year, part of the reason many advocated for these shots is because they understood them to be sterilizing, or near sterilizing. We now know this is not the case.

Also: how were these individuals treated once at the hospital, do you know? Were they provided, or did they have access to, early treatment options (such as Ivermectin, high doses of vitamins C, D, and Zinc, etc)?

[PufPuf93]

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Meanwhile, here's what pro-'vaccine' leadership looks like:

@LyndzBeck
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Finally found the tweet

https://twitter.com/LyndzBeck/status/14 ... rCjPmKjhYw

Canada police fear violence at trucker vaccine protest

>>The truckers are protesting a new requirement that truckers entering Canada be fully immunized as of Jan. 15. The United States has imposed the same requirement on truckers entering that country.

The Canadian Trucking Alliance has estimated that about 15% truckers in Canada — as many as 16,000 — are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Some with far-right views have latched onto the protest. One online video includes a man expressing hope the rally will turn into the Canadian equivalent of the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of former president Donald Trump.

Donald Trump Jr. took to social media Tuesday to endorse the Canadian truck convoy’s fight against “tyranny” and to urge Americans to follow suit.<<

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... t-82497084

[Belligerent Savant]

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What is your point in sharing the above, other than to expose your willingness to be duped by partisan tropes? Falling for base-level misdirections.

Why was the 15% unvaccinated bit highlighted?

[Harvey]

Evil, and they were all prescribed Remdesivir, as per guidelines?