Belligerent Savant » Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:24 pm wrote:.
How is "unvaccinated" and "fully vaccinated" defined in the above chart? Also: what is the age stratification? How many of the deaths had more than 2 comorbidities?
Some context from the link referenced above:
As depicted in the graph above for the period between May 30, 2021, and Jan. 23, 2022, 17 deaths of fully vaccinated Humboldt County residents from COVID-19 were reported. The average age of those deaths was 79. During that same period, 52 deaths of unvaccinated residents were reported. The average age of those deaths was 67. During that same period, 65 fully vaccinated residents were hospitalized with an average age of 73. An additional 266 unvaccinated individuals were hospitalized with an average age of 58. View a more detailed depiction of the hospitalization and death rates graph here.
The current seven-day average case rate in Humboldt County is approximately 91, meaning that for every 100,000 residents, approximately 91 tested positive daily over the last seven days. Case rates vary considerably by vaccination status, as illustrated in the graph below, which depicts average weekly case rates since January 2021 in unvaccinated and fully vaccinated residents.
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The most recent seven-day average case rate for the period ending Jan. 23, for fully vaccinated individuals is 60 per 100,000 residents, while the case rate for unvaccinated individuals is 57 per 100,000 residents.
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COVID-19 vaccines remain effective against the virus, but CDC data shows their effectiveness at preventing infection or severe illness wanes over time, especially in people aged 65 or older.
From an initial read, I see no mention for how "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated" is defined, or breakdown per dosage (1 dose, 2 doses, 3 doses, etc.). Also no reference to average count of comorbidities per individual, particularly given the average ages referenced above.
Such details provide added, and needed, context.
None of the above data points justify mandating mRNA products, especially for those under 60 and healthy.
Also, when you type:
many of the more questionable sources here at RI
Do you intend to cite these questionable sources, and what, exactly, makes them questionable? Or do you prefer to continue to cast broad aspersions without specificity?
Note in that vaccinated %, I was pointing out that there is no way more than 100% of the population are tested; (1) Just is not true, and (2) Did not specifically say but the numbers are all accounting numbers, not statistics. Statistics would be based upon a sample design, and one could compute confidence intervals.
There is info about what you ask in the dashboard. There are breakdowns by age and racial group but nothing about comorbidity, but one can assume, older equals more comorbidity. One should also note that comorbidity increases with age and that vaccination % also increases with age and is much lower for 30 years old and less. Note I was criticizing the dashboard as being misleading, that is not the only case.
I made no comment on mRNA products. Do not have the basis for comment.
Read that internet site every day for local news. Just like RI, what is posted varies in quality. Usually that dashboard and a thread is posted every working day, 5 days per week, but for some reason unknown to me, that thread is from Friday 2/4 and there is no new thread. I posted that graphic and the links because the graph shows hospitalization and death versus vaccination status in my small part of the globe. Read the comments. The woman who owns and runs the site is patient.
There are several hundred similarly structured and titled threads, averaging over 100 comments, at RHBB. Just like RI, the posts vary in quality, and those termed the anti-vaccers make any serious conversation impossible. I think that is the point. Read somewhere on the internet (probably DU) that there are 8 sites aggregating and feeding articles into the system. Some items are well-sourced, others are mysterious when one starts going into the "who are we" rabbit hole. Just tried on StickD's recent posts. Take Dr. Malone. Malone was drummed out of the research community and is a self-promoting fraud but gets the attention and no doubt money. Told RI, I am going more on intuition than rigor, but had decades of experience as part of or working with the research community granted nothing since the 20th century but that was how my brain was naturally wired (prior to fitzing out). My observation was that items would be posted here, at RHBB, and at a similar site in Shasta county, near simultaneously, with the appearance they were being fed into the system.
Folks are out there too willing to say that covid is over or never was. I agree about most of the bad stuff impending. Where we disagree is that I see induced chaos as the problem If anything, I am convinced that the USA does not have the social cohesion to address a crisis; be it virus, war, or natural disaster. We cannot even have a sane and civil conversation. Same old equation of pitting race against race or religion against religion. I think the elephant in the room is toxic religion.
anyhow I need a break.
