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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:31 pm

stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 06:40 wrote:The COVID-19 S1 protein by itself (you know, the "harmless" protein that mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to manufacture) causes amyloid clotting.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

TEG ®, Microclot and Platelet Mapping for Guiding Early Management of Severe COVID-19 Coagulopathy

Erythrocyte, Platelet, Serum Ferritin, and P-Selectin Pathophysiology Implicated in Severe Hypercoagulation and Vascular Complications in COVID-19

Covid-19: The Rollercoaster of Fibrin(Ogen), D-Dimer, Von Willebrand Factor, P-Selectin and Their Interactions with Endothelial Cells, Platelets and Erythrocytes

Now, don't get me wrong. COVID-19 outcomes could be even worse that getting micro-clots from mRNA gene therapies. And Delta outcomes were no joke. So you may well have made the right choice when you vaccinated yourself, depending on the likelihood of your contracting COVID-19 and your risk of death or another severe outcome.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?

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Congratulations on just discovering Dr Been. The vaccinated painter who recovered from COVID after providing some of us with a year of enlightening informative discussion about covid and other things. I hope you buy him a coffee.

If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?


Who are you asking these questions to? Cos I don't think there is anyone posting on this discussion board who advocates boosters or vaccination for kids.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?


Its almost as if you're implying that people support these policies cos they disagree with you about other things. You wouldn't be that sort of fuckwit would you?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:30 am

Macron and French intelligence casually confirm that the nose-rape gathers people's DNA, and that you should be very wary about who gets hold of that stuff and what they might do with it:

Macron refused to take Russian Covid test

... we could not accept that they get their hands on the president's DNA," one of the sources told Reuters.

The source did not elaborate on how the Russian intelligence services could exploit Mr Macron's DNA. ...

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:31 am

Joe Hillshoist » 12 Feb 2022 01:31 wrote:
stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 06:40 wrote:The COVID-19 S1 protein by itself (you know, the "harmless" protein that mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to manufacture) causes amyloid clotting.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

TEG ®, Microclot and Platelet Mapping for Guiding Early Management of Severe COVID-19 Coagulopathy

Erythrocyte, Platelet, Serum Ferritin, and P-Selectin Pathophysiology Implicated in Severe Hypercoagulation and Vascular Complications in COVID-19

Covid-19: The Rollercoaster of Fibrin(Ogen), D-Dimer, Von Willebrand Factor, P-Selectin and Their Interactions with Endothelial Cells, Platelets and Erythrocytes

Now, don't get me wrong. COVID-19 outcomes could be even worse that getting micro-clots from mRNA gene therapies. And Delta outcomes were no joke. So you may well have made the right choice when you vaccinated yourself, depending on the likelihood of your contracting COVID-19 and your risk of death or another severe outcome.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?

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Congratulations on just discovering Dr Been. The vaccinated painter who recovered from COVID after providing some of us with a year of enlightening informative discussion about covid and other things. I hope you buy him a coffee.

If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?


Who are you asking these questions to? Cos I don't think there is anyone posting on this discussion board who advocates boosters or vaccination for kids.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?


Its almost as if you're implying that people support these policies cos they disagree with you about other things. You wouldn't be that sort of fuckwit would you?


Did I hit a nerve or something, Joe? If the shoe doesn't fit, feel free not to wear it.

And how in the hell do you always get away with such personally abusive shit like this on this board? Do you wield some sort of absolute power over the moderators here or something? If not, why are you never even ever warned for anything you say?

As for the COVID-19 spike proteins, the alpha and delta versions were truly a bitch. But nobody that I know has ever recommended that anybody inject themselves with COVID-19 or mRNA instructions to make COVID-19.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:19 am

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:46 am

Joe Hillshoist » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:31 pm wrote:
If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?



The potential issues with these mRNA 'vaccines' is that:


1. It induces the body to manufacture spike proteins. Initial claims were that it was only for an abbreviated timeframe but other more recent studies suggest it may continue for extended periods and spread to organs, etc.

2. The synthetic LNPs in mRNA 'vaccines' are a potential/likely issue as well, and may be playing a role in health-related issues well after any near-term side effect potential is passed.

3. Other synthetics and/or metallic particles that may also be injected into the body.

I'd rather get covid naturally (as I have) than synthetically, for all these reasons and more.

Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:36 pm wrote:
...

https://osf.io/bcsa6/

Differences in Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Replication Derived mRNA: Implications for Cell Biology and Future Disease

AUTHORS
Kevin McKernan
Anthony M. Kyriakopoulos
Peter A. McCullough

Abstract

Codon optimization describes the process used to increase protein production by use of alternative but synonymous codon changes. InSARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines codon optimizations can result in differential secondary conformations that inevitably affect a protein’s function with significant consequences to the cell. Importantly, when codon optimization increases the GC content of synthetic mRNAs, there can be an inevitable enrichment of G-quartets which potentially form G-quadruplex structures. The emerging G-quadruplexes are favorable binding sites of RNA binding proteins like helicases that inevitably affect epigenetic reprogramming of the cell by altering transcription, translation and replication. In this study, we performed a RNA fold analysis to investigate alterations in secondary structures of mRNAs in SARS-CoV-2 vaccines due to codon optimization. We show a significant increase in the GC content of mRNAs in vaccines as compared to native SARS-CoV-2 RNA sequences encoding the spike protein. As the GC enrichment leads to more G-quadruplex structure formations, these may contribute to potential pathological processes initiated by SARS-CoV-2 molecular vaccination.

...

Conclusions

The argument that the spike proteins synthesized by codon optimized mRNAs are identical to spike protein from the virus should be cautiously examined. There are several arguments that challenge this dogma. First, the biodistribution of non-specific LNP transfection of mRNAs does not discriminate towards ACE2 or CD147 expressing cell lines as seen with the virus. Second, the mRNA that encodes spike protein is known to be different in several regards. The mRNAs are known to have a 2 Proline substitution(K986P and V987P)(Department of Health and Human Services Patent US 10,960,070B2) altering the proteins conformation. The mRNAs are known to be codon optimized thus altering their secondary structure and their quadruplex G density in the spike protein mRNA. The mRNAs are known to have N1-methylpseudourine substitutions that alter translation fidelity and Toll Like Receptor recognition. Additionally, the expression levels and duration of these mRNAs maybe longer and of higher copy number in many tissues that never experience natural virus infection. Finally, the pharmacokinetics of injection are different than infection. 60ug-200ug of Spike mRNA equates to26 Trillion to 80 Trillion mRNA molecules injected in a few seconds. The pharmacokinetics of this bolus injection differs from that of viral replication that occurs over the course of a few days. If each of these mRNAs can produce 10-100 spike proteins and you have 30-40 Trillion cells, there may be a far greater systemic quantity and a much longer duration of spike protein exposure through the vaccination route than natural infection. Boosters given more frequently than a year will lead to total body accumulation of spike protein and further heighten the risk of disease in organs such as the brain, heart, bone marrow, and immune cells and tissues. This false equivalency may lead to an under appreciation of the symptomatology of vaccine based adverse events

...

More than 20months into this pandemic and we have millions of SARs-CoV-2 genomes sequenced. Lot to lot sequencing of the vaccines is non-existent. To this date, no raw reads for these vaccines exist in NCBI despite over a billion liability-free vaccinations. To fully understand RNA synthesis substitution errors, fragmentation errors or strandedness errors in the mRNA synthesis process, robust lot to lot sequencing should be performed and published. Given these mRNAs are prodrugs which code for a desired protein, where is the evidence that the conversion of this prodrug into a drug is of high fidelity? This seems to have been assumed as opposed to documented.

This work suggests this assumption should be questioned. Public and transparent quality control of these often-mandated injections are required. This should include sequence verification and quality control of the various lots and evidence of the proteins these mRNA express in patients


AND (specific to kids):

https://www.covidkidfacts.ca/

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Do You Have ALL THE INFORMATION
You Need To Give Informed Consent?


Healthy children are at minimal risk of severe outcomes like hospitalizations from COVID-19

The risk of hospitalization from COVID-19 is less than that of influenza during the last 3 years

Your child is 10 times more likely to die of a motor vehicle accident than COVID-19; and 2-3 times more likely to die from drowning than from COVID-19

Once recovered from COVID-19, children have long lasting, robust immunity against future infection

More than 50% of kids have already had COVID-19 and about 40% of those were asymptomatic

Getting the vaccine after COVID-19 infection increases the risk of side effects, including severe and potentially life-threatening side-effects, from the vaccine

Fully vaccinated children can transmit COVID-19 and infect others as well as unvaccinated children

The mRNA technology in COVID-19 vaccines in Canada has never been used clinically in humans before

The Moderna vaccine uses the same mRNA technology as Pfizer - and has been suspended for use in children and young people in the United Kingdom, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Germany and France

COVID-19 vaccine induced myocarditis is only one of many potential adverse effects. It is not a “mild” disease. In many children, it can cause long term disability and some children may die of vaccine-induced myocarditis

Signed by 14 Canadian Physicians - including 2 Pediatricians, other specialists and family doctors; and more than 100 nurses from across Canada, including pediatric nurses.

We will remain anonymous for now, since Medical and Nursing Licensing Bodies and Health Authorities have been persecuting physicians and nurses for speaking the truth. Our practices, livelihoods, and licenses have been threatened simply for giving information to parents and children. This is providing informed consent, and we are bound by oath to do this.
We will most certainly reveal our identities at the appropriate time, most likely before the courts, when public health authorities, regional/provincial health authorities and licensing bodies are brought to justice.

Our statement is also endorsed by several leading Canadian scientists, Immunologists and vaccine specialists including:

Dr. Bonnie Mallard Ph.D. – Professor of Immunology and Immunogenetics,
University of Guelph. Winner of Governor General’s award for Innovations in Immunogenetics in 2017 and the NSERC Synergy Prize in the area of Immunogenetics 2021.

Dr Byram Bridle Ph.D. - Associate Professor of Viral Immunology and Vaccine Specialist, University of Guelph

Dr. Neil Karrow Ph.D. - Professor of Immunogenetics and Immunotoxicity, University of Guelph

Dr. Steve Pelech Ph.D. - Professor, Dept of Medicine, University of British Columbia
President and Chief Scientific Officer Kinexus Bioinformatics Corporation
Vice-President and Chair, Scientific and Advisory Committee of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance

Dr. Paul Alexander Ph.D. - Expert in evidence-based medicine; Health Epidemiologist. Has worked for WHO, Health Canada and the USA COVID-19 Taskforce.Please see Dr. Alexander’s urgent article for parents:
https://brownstone.org/articles/dear-pf ... ren-alone/
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby DrEvil » Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:04 pm

stickdog99 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:31 am wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » 12 Feb 2022 01:31 wrote:
stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 06:40 wrote:The COVID-19 S1 protein by itself (you know, the "harmless" protein that mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to manufacture) causes amyloid clotting.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

TEG ®, Microclot and Platelet Mapping for Guiding Early Management of Severe COVID-19 Coagulopathy

Erythrocyte, Platelet, Serum Ferritin, and P-Selectin Pathophysiology Implicated in Severe Hypercoagulation and Vascular Complications in COVID-19

Covid-19: The Rollercoaster of Fibrin(Ogen), D-Dimer, Von Willebrand Factor, P-Selectin and Their Interactions with Endothelial Cells, Platelets and Erythrocytes

Now, don't get me wrong. COVID-19 outcomes could be even worse that getting micro-clots from mRNA gene therapies. And Delta outcomes were no joke. So you may well have made the right choice when you vaccinated yourself, depending on the likelihood of your contracting COVID-19 and your risk of death or another severe outcome.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?

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Congratulations on just discovering Dr Been. The vaccinated painter who recovered from COVID after providing some of us with a year of enlightening informative discussion about covid and other things. I hope you buy him a coffee.

If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?


Who are you asking these questions to? Cos I don't think there is anyone posting on this discussion board who advocates boosters or vaccination for kids.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?


Its almost as if you're implying that people support these policies cos they disagree with you about other things. You wouldn't be that sort of fuckwit would you?


Did I hit a nerve or something, Joe? If the shoe doesn't fit, feel free not to wear it.

And how in the hell do you always get away with such personally abusive shit like this on this board? Do you wield some sort of absolute power over the moderators here or something? If not, why are you never even ever warned for anything you say?

As for the COVID-19 spike proteins, the alpha and delta versions were truly a bitch. But nobody that I know has ever recommended that anybody inject themselves with COVID-19 or mRNA instructions to make COVID-19.


He probably gets away with it because it's almost always in response to bad faith "when did you stop beating your wife" bullshit like your post, which you do all the time.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby alloneword » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:09 pm



Thanks for that - I'd been staring at the supplementary tables and wondering just wtf they thought they were playing at, but Clare Craig sums it up nicely:

Nature has published this paper which presents data in an obtuse way that should never have passed peer review. The results were presented as showing how dangerous the Covid virus was for cardiovascular complications without suitable controls to enable that conclusion to be drawn. The evidence on vaccination risks was hidden and not presented in a meaningful way for different age groups. Even then, they demonstrated a significant risk of myocarditis after vaccination, particularly after then encountering the virus but this key finding was hidden in the supplementary appendix. Why?
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Postby Harvey » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:29 pm

DrEvil » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:04 pm wrote:
stickdog99 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:31 am wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » 12 Feb 2022 01:31 wrote:
stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 06:40 wrote:The COVID-19 S1 protein by itself (you know, the "harmless" protein that mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to manufacture) causes amyloid clotting.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

TEG ®, Microclot and Platelet Mapping for Guiding Early Management of Severe COVID-19 Coagulopathy

Erythrocyte, Platelet, Serum Ferritin, and P-Selectin Pathophysiology Implicated in Severe Hypercoagulation and Vascular Complications in COVID-19

Covid-19: The Rollercoaster of Fibrin(Ogen), D-Dimer, Von Willebrand Factor, P-Selectin and Their Interactions with Endothelial Cells, Platelets and Erythrocytes

Now, don't get me wrong. COVID-19 outcomes could be even worse that getting micro-clots from mRNA gene therapies. And Delta outcomes were no joke. So you may well have made the right choice when you vaccinated yourself, depending on the likelihood of your contracting COVID-19 and your risk of death or another severe outcome.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?

Image


Congratulations on just discovering Dr Been. The vaccinated painter who recovered from COVID after providing some of us with a year of enlightening informative discussion about covid and other things. I hope you buy him a coffee.

If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?


Who are you asking these questions to? Cos I don't think there is anyone posting on this discussion board who advocates boosters or vaccination for kids.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?


Its almost as if you're implying that people support these policies cos they disagree with you about other things. You wouldn't be that sort of fuckwit would you?


Did I hit a nerve or something, Joe? If the shoe doesn't fit, feel free not to wear it.

And how in the hell do you always get away with such personally abusive shit like this on this board? Do you wield some sort of absolute power over the moderators here or something? If not, why are you never even ever warned for anything you say?

As for the COVID-19 spike proteins, the alpha and delta versions were truly a bitch. But nobody that I know has ever recommended that anybody inject themselves with COVID-19 or mRNA instructions to make COVID-19.


He probably gets away with it because it's almost always in response to bad faith "when did you stop beating your wife" bullshit like your post, which you do all the time.


You're talking shit. Please, demonstrate how this post was directed at you or Joe. Clearly, neither of you were intended to take offence nor were either of you named, but you both took exception. Why should that be so?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:55 pm

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If not already clear, the curtains are beginning to tear at the seams..

Wanna hear a doctor speak some serious truth about the epidemic of jersey switching?

we’re clearly (as certain internet felines predicted) now entering the meat of the stage where everyone swaps jerseys and pretends they were on “team rationality” all along.

you’re going to see the agencies that mis-defined everything change their definitions and egregious overcounting, the people who closed the schools claim it was they who kept them open, and the doctors that told you that only vaccines can generate lasting immunity switch to “recovered immunity is herd immunity.”

it’s unravelling fast now.

you’re going to see the “lock down and mask up” crowd claim they knew all along that this did not work and disavow their role in generating and perpetuating this crisis.

those who censored and vilified and silenced will take up the flags of those they had just shouted down and wave them as their own.

in 3 months, you will struggle to find ANYONE who admits to having supported this debacle.

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but we sure have an awful lot of receipts that say otherwise.

and we’re going to remember.

dear “experts”,

while it’s nice to have you finally join us, we have some questions:

where were you when we needed you?

you could have stood. instead, you cowered and you quailed.

you lied and you knew it.

you not only allowed these outrages and denials of science to occur, but many of you cheer led for them. those who were silent merely added to the problem by allowing it to appear as “settled” when it was nothing of the sort.

how can we ever trust you again?

the moment came and you failed.

you lay down and you fed us to the wolves.

in the end, your cupidity and cowardice enabled this excursion into oppressive pseudoscientific demagoguery and dictatorship.

dr lee ritz says it perfectly here.

this is not just her truth, this is THE truth. real truth.

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the period of 2020-2 has been an earthquake. perhaps faster than any time in human history, the idea of “who one can trust” has been reshuffled.

faith in institutions and the credentialed class has been eviscerated.

new trust has been built in a crucible of conflict and confirmation and hard won new credibility found in unexpected places.

true colors were shown by a great many people and as a result, a great deal of information and context has been laid plain for all to see.

it’s going to break old structures and create new ones.

good.

it was high time.

remember what you saw. let the lessons last a lifetime and pass them on.

build your own ecosystems of information and trust.

the society you save may be your own.




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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:21 pm

stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 19:31 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » 12 Feb 2022 01:31 wrote:
stickdog99 » 12 Feb 2022 06:40 wrote:The COVID-19 S1 protein by itself (you know, the "harmless" protein that mRNA vaccines instruct our cells to manufacture) causes amyloid clotting.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein S1 induces fibrin(ogen) resistant to fibrinolysis: implications for microclot formation in COVID-19

TEG ®, Microclot and Platelet Mapping for Guiding Early Management of Severe COVID-19 Coagulopathy

Erythrocyte, Platelet, Serum Ferritin, and P-Selectin Pathophysiology Implicated in Severe Hypercoagulation and Vascular Complications in COVID-19

Covid-19: The Rollercoaster of Fibrin(Ogen), D-Dimer, Von Willebrand Factor, P-Selectin and Their Interactions with Endothelial Cells, Platelets and Erythrocytes

Now, don't get me wrong. COVID-19 outcomes could be even worse that getting micro-clots from mRNA gene therapies. And Delta outcomes were no joke. So you may well have made the right choice when you vaccinated yourself, depending on the likelihood of your contracting COVID-19 and your risk of death or another severe outcome.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?

Image


Congratulations on just discovering Dr Been. The vaccinated painter who recovered from COVID after providing some of us with a year of enlightening informative discussion about covid and other things. I hope you buy him a coffee.

If not I have an unrelated question - how come the vaccine spike protein is so bad but the viral one isn't? Even tho its multiplying and presenting itself at a higher rate in your body after infection rather than vaccination?


Who are you asking these questions to? Cos I don't think there is anyone posting on this discussion board who advocates boosters or vaccination for kids.

But don't you think you went overboard when you encouraged young and healthy people at little risk from COVID-19 to inject themselves with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting?

And don't you think that the lack of severity of Omicron to young and healthy individuals make the continuing efforts to vaccinate and boost them with instructions to manufacture a protein that causes micro-clotting and that effectively no longer even exists in the wild?


Its almost as if you're implying that people support these policies cos they disagree with you about other things. You wouldn't be that sort of fuckwit would you?


Did I hit a nerve or something, Joe? If the shoe doesn't fit, feel free not to wear it.

And how in the hell do you always get away with such personally abusive shit like this on this board? Do you wield some sort of absolute power over the moderators here or something? If not, why are you never even ever warned for anything you say?


If you aren't implying other people reading your post on this site are in favour of those things you posted and that you're just randomly yelling into the ether you don't have to wear those shoes either.

But it does seem as tho you are directly implying that about anyone on here who doesn't agree with you.

Its not just me you're implying all that stuff about either. It seems as if you're saying them about anyone here who is vaccinated. Anyone here who hasn't agreed with every pronouncement you've made about this must be in favour of vaccinating kids and locking up the unclean lepers.

As for the COVID-19 spike proteins, the alpha and delta versions were truly a bitch. But nobody that I know has ever recommended that anybody inject themselves with COVID-19 or mRNA instructions to make COVID-19.


Delta was a dominant strain 8 or 10 weeks ago. Back when you were shitting on people for getting vaccinated and blaming you for all their problems.

Also - How do mRNA instructions instruct the body to make covid-19?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:32 pm

DrEvil » 12 Feb 2022 20:04 wrote:
He probably gets away with it because it's almost always in response to bad faith "when did you stop beating your wife" bullshit like your post, which you do all the time.


How is it bad faith to critically address widely held beliefs that each and every one of us know people who currently share?

I'm not the asshole who continually personalizes things here. Why am I continually personally attacked?

It's total deflection. I'm personally terrible, and I am critical of leaky mRNA gene therapies! So there! And I was even critical of mRNA gene therapy mandates when they made slightly more sense than the zero sense they make today! So there!

It seems that several here pipe up more about me personally than about anything COVID-19 related. Why the fuck am I the issue? Could it be because it's far easier to criticize me personally with vague vilifying generalizations of my "shitting on people" than it is to address the current "merits" of mRNA gene therapies, especially for young and healthy people?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:25 pm

stickdog99 » 13 Feb 2022 12:32 wrote:
DrEvil » 12 Feb 2022 20:04 wrote:
He probably gets away with it because it's almost always in response to bad faith "when did you stop beating your wife" bullshit like your post, which you do all the time.


How is it bad faith to critically address widely held beliefs that each and every one of us know people who currently share?

I'm not the asshole who continually personalizes things here. Why am I continually personally attacked?

It's total deflection. I'm personally terrible, and I am critical of leaky mRNA gene therapies! So there! And I was even critical of mRNA gene therapy mandates when they made slightly more sense than the zero sense they make today! So there!

It seems that several here pipe up more about me personally than about anything COVID-19 related. Why the fuck am I the issue? Could it be because it's far easier to criticize me personally with vague vilifying generalizations of my "shitting on people" than it is to address the current "merits" of mRNA gene therapies, especially for young and healthy people?


I'm sorry but when do we have to virute signal to you about how we feel about shit or you'll start implying we support it?

You're the cunt who said I would report you to authorities for not taking a vaccine.

You never fucken apologised or even just said you were mistaken in that assumption.

That sort of thing disgusts me. I'd never do that.

But if we ever meet I might beat the fuck out of you for suggesting I would.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:33 am

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