Russian-Ukrainian War: Live Thread

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Postby Harvey » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:52 am

Up until their withdrawal, all the OSCE reports are here (courtesy of Craig Murray):
https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports/?filters=+ds_date:([2022-02-01T00:00:00Z%20TO%202022-02-21T00:00:00Z])&solrsort=ds_date%20desc&rows=50
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:57 am

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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby Grizzly » Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:29 pm

when things inexplicably come together...

I call it a CONVERGENCE

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Putin's full declaration of war.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-putin-s-declaration-of-war-on-ukraine
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby Grizzly » Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:39 pm

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https://stevepieczenik.com/2020/10/05/o ... loves-war/




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Regarding last couple of posts...

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 24, 2022 2:03 pm

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It is on this thread, though. There are plenty of threads that would have been suitable for the last few posts.

Let's preserve this one as drstrangelove started it and not divert it.
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:58 pm

BREAKING: Ukraine's interior ministry says men between the ages of 18 and 60 are banned from leaving the country

- https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1496959123707109394
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:12 pm

drstrangelove » 24 Feb 2022 10:20 wrote:Zelensky's twitter account:

We will lift sanctions on all citizens of Ukraine who are ready to defend our country as part of territorial defense with weapons in hands.


https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa


Sorry, Jack, if this is off-topic. but WTF is that supposed to mean? Which citizens of Ukraine were previously being sanctioned and why?
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:42 pm

Ukraine president orders full military mobilisation
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has ordered a full military mobilisation to counter the Russian invasion.

In a decree issued late on Thursday, he said the the mobilisation would last 90 days.

He tasked the military’s general staff with determining the number of people eligible for service and the number of reservists as well as the order of the call-up.

- https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40816116.html

I can't find any more info on this. It looks like conscription of all able bodied men aged between 18-60. I say this because of the BNONews tweet reporting men of those ages are being prevented from leaving the country. I remember following BNONews early on in the pandemic during the month of Feb. They were pretty reliable. A dutch agency if i remember right.

This is big news to me. No one expects Ukraine to win this war. A responsible government in this situation would surrender into exile and spare its population the carnage. To actually force men into this war would only be justifiable if it were reasonable to believe the Russians would carry out some kind of genocide on the population once they become an occupying force.
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:31 pm

Chernobyl no-go zone targeted as Russia invades Ukraine
Russian forces took control over the site after a fierce battle with Ukrainian national guards protecting the decommissioned plant, Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak told The Associated Press. The condition of the plant’s facilities, a confinement shelter and a repository for nuclear waste is unknown, he said.

An official familiar with current assessments said Russian shelling hit a radioactive waste repository at Chernobyl, and an increase in radiation levels was reported. The increase could not be immediately corroborated.

- https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-cher ... 50a73a1bb5
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:49 pm

Ukrainian males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country, Zelensky says in new declaration

From CNN's Tamara Qiblawi and Caroll Alvardo

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has ordered a general military mobilization.

In a declaration signed late Thursday, Zelensky said that "in order to ensure the defense of the state, maintaining combat and mobilization readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations," a broad-based mobilization was ordered, including in the capital, Kyiv and all Ukraine's major cities.

"Mobilization shall be carried out within 90 days from the date of entry into force of this Decree," the announcement said.

The mobilization also instructed "the Security Service of Ukraine to take counterintelligence measures during the general mobilization."

It ordered the "conscription of conscripts, reservists for military service, their delivery to military units and institutions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" and other state security services.

At the same time, Ukraine has banned all-male citizens 18-60 years old from leaving the country, according to the State Border Guard Service.

The statement said that following the introduction of martial law in Ukraine, a temporary restriction had been imposed.

"In particular, it is forbidden for men aged 18-60, Ukraine citizens, to leave the borders of Ukraine," the statement said. "This regulation will remain in effect for the period of the legal regime of martial law. We ask the citizens to take this information into consideration."

Some more context: At least 57 people have died and 169 injured since Moscow launched the invasion, according to Ukraine’s Minister of Healthcare, Viktor Lyashko.

“We’re staying home. We don’t want to leave,” says 24-year-old Andrew who had just learned about the travel ban on Ukrainian men. He did not disclose his full name for security reasons.

“I can’t leave now because last update (was that) was that guys from 18 to 68 … cannot leave borders of Ukraine,” he says. “We will stay here till Russians go home because it’s important to us to stay in our homes,” he added. “We will stay with our government."

- https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-new ... 10a07fb2c9

It's time for Ukrainian male refugees to start identifying as women. If Ukraine is a progressive western democracy it will uphold transgender rights.
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm

stickdog99 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:12 pm wrote:
drstrangelove » 24 Feb 2022 10:20 wrote:Zelensky's twitter account:

We will lift sanctions on all citizens of Ukraine who are ready to defend our country as part of territorial defense with weapons in hands.


https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa


Sorry, Jack, if this is off-topic. but WTF is that supposed to mean? Which citizens of Ukraine were previously being sanctioned and why?


Come on, Jack,* how is that off-topic? What's more on-topic here than things Zelensky tweets?

I don't know but if forced to bet, I'd bet it means his English skills are moderate, especially under pressure in whatever understaffed bunker he now finds himself. He probably means a different word, like limits or restrictions or curfew under martial law and the new draft order described above.

Because I doubt he means Ukrainians under international sanctions, which might refer to a couple of the out-oligarchs perhaps. (Hey Poroshenko, we'll drop your charges if you go fight at the front.) Or maybe it's for clearing out the prisons.

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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby Grizzly » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:12 pm

JR for an academic you sure do play along. Southern colloquialism, "What's better than owning one team, than owning the TEAM that comes up against them"!

Anybody grep that? The magnitude of it? Coke, Pepsi, Red Team Blue Team. Our heads of State your heads of State. What if the Globalist's WEF PREDATOR ELITE CLASS OWN ALL teams and tribes?! Again, Anybody grep that? It's ALL A RICH MAN'S TRICK! Professor Anthony C. Sutton explained this long ago...


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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:18 pm

Grizzly » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm wrote:JR for an academic you sure do play along. Southern colloquialism, "What's better than owning one team, than owning the TEAM that comes up against them"!

Anybody grep that? The magnitude of it? Coke, Pepsi, Red Team Blue Team. Our heads of State your heads of State. What if the Globalist's WEF PREDATOR ELITE CLASS OWN ALL teams and tribes?! Again, Anybody grep that? It's ALL A RICH MAN'S TRICK! Professor Anthony C. Sutton explained this long ago...


Yeah yeah, keep hearing it. Brilliant thought, never occurred to anyone. You're the one who sees it all. Anyone who doesn't say so is a patsy.

Now you've posted the like in 30 threads. So on this one kindly stick to breaking/daily news about the R-U War. I think it's a reasonable request. This is now also a moderation warning.

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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:48 pm

WATCH: Unknown object intercepted over Ukraine's capital; no further details

- https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497039352840564750
WATCH: Debris falling down after unknown object is shot down over Kyiv

- https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497040495347912706
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Re: Russian-Ukranian War: Live Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:46 pm

drstrangelove » 25 Feb 2022 00:49 wrote:
Ukrainian males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country, Zelensky says in new declaration

From CNN's Tamara Qiblawi and Caroll Alvardo

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has ordered a general military mobilization.

In a declaration signed late Thursday, Zelensky said that "in order to ensure the defense of the state, maintaining combat and mobilization readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations," a broad-based mobilization was ordered, including in the capital, Kyiv and all Ukraine's major cities.

"Mobilization shall be carried out within 90 days from the date of entry into force of this Decree," the announcement said.

The mobilization also instructed "the Security Service of Ukraine to take counterintelligence measures during the general mobilization."

It ordered the "conscription of conscripts, reservists for military service, their delivery to military units and institutions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" and other state security services.

At the same time, Ukraine has banned all-male citizens 18-60 years old from leaving the country, according to the State Border Guard Service.

The statement said that following the introduction of martial law in Ukraine, a temporary restriction had been imposed.

"In particular, it is forbidden for men aged 18-60, Ukraine citizens, to leave the borders of Ukraine," the statement said. "This regulation will remain in effect for the period of the legal regime of martial law. We ask the citizens to take this information into consideration."

Some more context: At least 57 people have died and 169 injured since Moscow launched the invasion, according to Ukraine’s Minister of Healthcare, Viktor Lyashko.

“We’re staying home. We don’t want to leave,” says 24-year-old Andrew who had just learned about the travel ban on Ukrainian men. He did not disclose his full name for security reasons.

“I can’t leave now because last update (was that) was that guys from 18 to 68 … cannot leave borders of Ukraine,” he says. “We will stay here till Russians go home because it’s important to us to stay in our homes,” he added. “We will stay with our government."

- https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-new ... 10a07fb2c9

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It would also dishonorably discharge all unvaccinated troops.
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