Coronavirus is seriously dangerous

[MacCruiskeen]

Who could have guessed you would rush in to defend the Operator? You never fail to be astonishingy unsurprising, O Bodhidharma. People should check out your posts.

[mentalgongfu2]

Sure. They are free to do so regardless of your borderline insinuations. As they can check out yours and confirm your overall mild manner and propensity for avoiding exaggeration and hyperbole.

[MacCruiskeen]

I am not "insinuating" anything. I am saying openly that you and he are full of crap. I don't have a "mild manner", nor am I obliged to, nor would it would it be right to have one, least of all in times like these. I frankly detest and despise sneaky bullshitters such as you and him and all the other spooky Operators who have inflicted these cruel lies on the children and adults of the planet for two fucking years and counting.

[Joe Hillshoist]

July 2020, four months after he started this nauseating thread:

Just checking back in to see what the community has to say about coronavirus these days. I've done four 12 hour shifts now in my locked down facility. Six of my coworkers have tested positive so far. The bridge of my nose is scabby and I've got acne like a teenager from wearing an dirty, reused N95 for so long. So I'd love to hear... is coronavirus real, or has Bill Gates just hired 147,588 really dedicated crisis actors? Please enlighten me.

Two full fucking years of this power-worshipping, anti-scientific, health-destroying, life-negating, kiddie-masking, gene-fiddling obvious bullshit, and you and the other heroic self-worshipping slimebag Operators are conspicuous by your absence, too cowardly to venture a post.

#ClapForCarers

Maybe he got covid and died.

Or can't be fucked with this joint any more because you behaved like a pig.

[MacCruiskeen]

Maybe he got covid and died.

He got acne, allegedly. It's rarely fatal.

Operator Kos was the arrogant self-dramatising self-worshipping pig who barged in here ordering everyone on the planet -- including the children -- to wear a fucking mask, whether they got acne or traumatised or life or anything else. Millions of them are still wearing a fucking mask. Of course you, being you, sidle in yet again to defend him, even after two fucking years of his cruel bullshit being exposed.

You are in love with this busted flush of a pseudo-scientific pseudopandemic. You want it to be real. Your ego depends on it. You won't let it go.

[mentalgongfu2]

Just so it's clear to the casual reader Mac, you are the only bullshitter here. I have never pretended to be anything I am not. My only RI sin has been to call out when hyperbolic exaggerated "plandemic" propaganda is verifiably false or intellectually dishonest and internally contradicted. As usual there is no point engaging with you because there is nothing to engage with other than vitriol and namecalling. The only reason i have continued posting in this thread the last year is so the many silent readers will see something other than the idiot consensus of the hive mind that posts 20 articles per day with disparate povs and conflicting claims, all of the 'its fake'variety and demands they all be individually refuted on their own contradictory terms or submit to the one righteous view that Bill gates is Satan or something. I have plenty of actual thoughts represented here, and your false characterization is undercut by anyone who wants to read them. Enjoy your world where anyone who thinks you are wrong is responsible for every conceivable ill of humanity and where you cannot fathom lockdowns have negative effects but there is also a real disease. Go wank it to your disaster fantasies. Your real goal is clearly to berate any disagreement so that it disappears. Looking for The Thought Police? Find a mirror, asshat.

[MacCruiskeen]

^^spiritual lumbago

[MacCruiskeen]

Very seriously. two years on: Has it ever crossed the mind of any of you tut-tutting moralists that millions of people might have very good reason to be angered by your cruel bullshit, which has had -- and is still having -- devastating consequences in the real world?

[Joe Hillshoist]

He got acne, allegedly. It's rarely fatal.

Operator Kos was the arrogant self-dramatising self-worshipping pig who barged in here ordering everyone on the planet -- including the children -- to wear a fucking mask, whether they got acne or traumatised or life or anything else. Millions of them are still wearing a fucking mask. Of course you, being you, sidle in yet again to defend him, even after two fucking years of his cruel bullshit being exposed.

You are in love with this busted flush of a pseudo-scientific pseudopandemic. You want it to be real. Your ego depends on it. You won't let it go.

This is a lie.

At no point did OpKos order everyone to wear a mask. He told people to wash their hands and stay at home. In March 2020.

You are a liar.

If you seriously believe what you just wrote maybe you should get off the internet for a few weeks and do some proper meditation or something cos you seriously need it.

Sort out your own ego before you actually start pointing at other people and shrieking like a drone from invasion of the body snatchers.

[Belligerent Savant]

Very seriously. two years on: Has it ever crossed the mind of any of you tut-tutting moralists that millions of people might have very good reason to be angered by your cruel bullshit, which has had -- and is still having -- devastating consequences in the real world?

Some here may not appreciate Mac's bedside manner -- and he clearly isn't concerned -- but his point above is spot-on.

People have very good reason to be very angry. And more will get angry in time, rightfully so.

It's been a particularly frustrating (to put it euphemistically) ~2 yrs for those that saw through much of the outright lies and madness since the early stages of this colossal mindfuck.

And we're still not out of it.

And still, some people (here, but more broadly, out there in the world) continue in their refusal to unequivocally acknowledge just how much we've been egregiously wronged.

[Harvey]

Very seriously. two years on: Has it ever crossed the mind of any of you tut-tutting moralists that millions of people might have very good reason to be angered by your cruel bullshit, which has had -- and is still having -- devastating consequences in the real world?

Some here may not appreciate Mac's bedside manner -- and he clearly isn't concerned -- but his point above is spot-on.

People have very good reason to be very angry. And more will get angry in time, rightfully so.

It's been a particularly frustrating (to put it euphemistically) ~2 yrs for those that saw through much of the outright lies and madness since the early stages of this colossal mindfuck.

And we're still not out of it.

And still, some people (here, but more broadly, out there in the world) continue in their refusal to unequivocally acknowledge just how much we've been egregiously wronged.

Yes. I know a lot of people who've been seriously injured by vaccines and many more who's lives may have been severely shortened, including family. Then there are the tens of thousands who perished needlessly in care homes, the tens of thousands more who were put to death and the hundreds of thousands who died because effective treatment was denied to them.

All those who's identity depends on ignoring the mass of accumulated evidence and continue to pretend all is well with the last two years of mass murder, like our alleged friend above - are the ones who helped the process along at every stage. Without the help of all of them, the murderers could not have gotten away with it for so long. Damn them for being good Germans.

[liminalOyster]

Very seriously. two years on: Has it ever crossed the mind of any of you tut-tutting moralists that millions of people might have very good reason to be angered by your cruel bullshit, which has had -- and is still having -- devastating consequences in the real world?

Some here may not appreciate Mac's bedside manner -- and he clearly isn't concerned -- but his point above is spot-on.

People have very good reason to be very angry. And more will get angry in time, rightfully so.

It's been a particularly frustrating (to put it euphemistically) ~2 yrs for those that saw through much of the outright lies and madness since the early stages of this colossal mindfuck.

And we're still not out of it.

And still, some people (here, but more broadly, out there in the world) continue in their refusal to unequivocally acknowledge just how much we've been egregiously wronged.

But the medium is the message and pulling out Kos's two year old post (long inactive here) to stand on a soapbox for whatever message is the absolute essence of bullying and scapegoating. Kos's message (for that still unclear about COVID moment) was utterly benign and contained the same set of utterances being made by millions and millions of people. Bedside manner is one thing while being blithely and horribly mean without a hint of justification is another.

Case in point, btw, I have disagreed with you (desite being largely inactive here over the past two years) many, many, many times and I don't think I have, even once, see you treat another poster the way Mac did. Base respect for other's integrity in 99% of situations is like the most basic building block of dialogue, which, as this shows, you are open to.

I don't even dislike Mac and have apreciated his gift for a certain bombast (in a literary sort of way) when it's not directed at other posters but directed at systems and various evil-doers. But seeing him unleash it on the person he did here was genuinely really weird.

[Harvey]

But the medium is the message and pulling out Kos's two year old post (long inactive here) to stand on a soapbox for whatever message is the absolute essence of bullying and scapegoating. Kos's message (for that still unclear about COVID moment) was utterly benign and contained the same set of utterances being made by millions and millions of people.

This is all true enough, although in mitigation, trauma affects us all differently.

The point, surely, is this: we are fairly well informed here. What is the excuse for continuing to carry water for mass murderers by any of us, here, at this time? I'm sickened by the spectacle of it.

[Gnomad]

I will have to say my peace regarding this as well.

I was sick with Covid early this year, after avoiding it for two years. The whole time I have been working at a customer service job, ensuring that people have working bicycles so they can commute and ride. For more than a year, I have been wearing a well fitting FFP2 mask the whole time I have been working, servicing bikes and meeting customers. (and FFP / N95 masks are the only ones that actually, really work - they fit well enough and filter out particles small enough to also work for aerosols. Surgical masks, and even more so cloth masks, are just security theater for the most part)

Bicycle business has had a tremendous, historical boom because when you ride a bike, you are outside and distanced from others - and now suddenly everyone wanted bikes so they do not have to use public transport.

But I got Covid anyway eventually - from my wifes workplace, probably. She takes care of people. And even though it was Omicron, it was not just a slight flu like its claimed. I was very, very sick - I had a fever of close to 40 Celsius for several days when it started, and it would not go down with regular fever medicine. I had a constant ringing sound like tinnitus for the first 3-4 days, I had a tremendous migraine, my blood pressure was high and I had constant arrhythmias. On day 3 I started coughing up pink foam, looked like it had some blood in it. My lungs started to hurt and breathing felt weird.

My strength was totally gone, even walking to the kitchen was hard. The fever stayed high for 7 days, and I had a low fever for seven days more. The second week I was clearly getting better, but still had high resting heat rate, had arrhythmias and felt very weak. Symptoms continued for more than 3 weeks after fever went down (so up to 5 weeks) - I could not ride a normal bike for my hear rate went way too high right away, could not go to sauna - same thing, heart felt really bad.

And please note that I am in much better physical shape than most people - I ride a bike daily, have done so for more than 20 years, I am a vegan, and I take vitamin supplements like Vitamin D - 100-200 micrograms every day. Age is between 40 and 50. I had the swine flu back in the day and it was bad as well (was it 2008?) and I have had a couple of other bad influenzas, but this was worse than anything else I have had, ever. It felt worse than the one time I got a systemic bacterial infection and was taken to a hospital for surgery. The first week I was really worried how it would go. I did self-medicate with cannabidiol and some other cannabinoids the first week, since it was clearly making me feel somewhat better.

On the other hand, my wife had it much easier. Slight loss of taste and smell for a few days, slight fever, and she was back to feeling okay by the end of the second week. We both had PCR test done - positive - and I have had it done a couple times before and then it was negative. Also did home tests several times during the last year, and they never gave a false positive. Now they also showed clear positive results for both of us.

It is a very real disease, with potentially serious effects. I know one other guy who is my age, also a cyclist and vegan, who got the original strain back in 2020 January, and he was in the hospital for two weeks on oxygen. Another (a customer) also got the original strain, has had migraines every day for a year since (never had migraines before being sick), and then got omicron a little while ago, and has had heart trouble after that. His good friend also caught the original and lost sense of smell and taste permanently, and had heart trouble originally (please note both got it before there were vaccines, so all this was certainly caused by the disease and not vaccines).

I have also come to believe that the vaccines are not at all as safe as they are made out to be. I had 2 shots of Pfizer vaccine, 5 months before I got sick. Later, I have seen much data that points to vaccines causing a myriad of serious side effects, up to causing clots and inflammation of the heart and veins, strokes and all kinds of other nastiness. Having read all that I have now, I will not take a third shot of any mRNA vaccine.

But going from disbelieving the official story of the pandemic, to thinking that there is no disease at all, or even to claiming that there are no viruses / or that viruses do not cause diseases, is something else entirely. I have become highly critical of mandatory vaccines, vaccine passports and the like, but viruses definitely exist. Those are entirely different matters.

[Joe Hillshoist]

You don't need a third shot of a vaccine now. You've been infected and vaccinated. You'll have cellular immunity against covid for a long time, maybe the rest of your life.

Glad you're ok btw.