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Postby Grizzly » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:17 pm

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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:29 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:59 pm wrote:She sure doesn't seem in any way 'confused' in the below clip:

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Early 1920s again, little different politics (but the same political DNA behind it), almost the same elites, same thinkers.

Same dynamics. History doesn't rhyme, but it cycles.

I keep warning the next Hitler will make the first one look incompetent...
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On The View, climate extremist Greta Thunberg suggests "if we want to see real changes" climate activists can't "only [use] the legal methods."
Adding: "We need to think outside the box because this is an existential crisis."


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https://twitter.com/ThingsHiddenn/statu ... 24231?s=20


I'd agree with you she doesn't seem at all confused in that clip. Thing is, there's nothing she says in that clip that I disagree with. For example, I believe the laws of my own land are recently become immoral and see no reason to agree to live under or abide by them. The powers that be decided that my life and that of everyone else in these islands can be legally snuffed out by agents of the state. At that point I am no longer subject to those laws, nor is anyone else. I know it, and I hope to persuade everyone else of the same truth in due course. If all the most prolific criminals in the world today are either in government, or above government, then why should I have any less contempt for their laws than they do? In the end, the beauty of a legal system is that it protected me, as well as every other, impartially. It no longer does, and perhaps it never did. Fuck it.
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:48 pm

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All quite true, though not sure she's viewing it in the same context as you are. Operating under the assumption that whatever she says publicly is part of a campaign managed by others (which may well have her input at this point), it appears there's a push towards creating increased destabilization/distrust of existing systems (to eventually introduce new systems under the authorship of many of the same currently steering [rigged] ships). Ultimately she's just 1 small piece. There are many other mouthpieces out there in grander leadership positions with similar roles to play.
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:00 pm

I agree. I see exactly what you see. And yet I know that there is an imperative to disobey immoral laws, whether that suits the supranational powers agenda or not. I'm not a Christian, I haven't yet been able to imagine the church which would have me as a member. My sense of moral obligation is organic and it arises entirely from life. My life. It is a church of exactly one.
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:31 pm

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And yet, we are both members of that same Church. Its altars are within our hearts and minds, or on any given sanctuary we may choose for a moment of reflection. There are many of similar, yet distinct, philosophies that harmonize with this awareness. We are not alone, and are growing in numbers.

What's more, they know it.

[Also: damn fucking right we must disobey immoral laws. We will not comply. Civil Disobedience. I refused to submit to a mandate and lost a position recently because of it. I was fortunate to find another role elsewhere without 'skipping time' -- if not for my dependents, I wouldn't have pursued other near-term options; unfortunately too many others weren't as fortunate. There will be a time for accountability.]
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:30 am

Belligerent Savant » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:31 am wrote:[Also: damn fucking right we must disobey immoral laws. We will not comply. Civil Disobedience. I refused to submit to a mandate and lost a position recently because of it. I was fortunate to find another role elsewhere without 'skipping time' -- if not for my dependents, I wouldn't have pursued other near-term options; unfortunately too many others weren't as fortunate. There will be a time for accountability.]


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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:29 pm

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Only on Rumble, poses some interesting theories: https://rumble.com/v2a14ts-federal-gove ... -them.html
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby DrEvil » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:26 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:59 am wrote:She sure doesn't seem in any way 'confused' in the below clip:

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Early 1920s again, little different politics (but the same political DNA behind it), almost the same elites, same thinkers.

Same dynamics. History doesn't rhyme, but it cycles.

I keep warning the next Hitler will make the first one look incompetent...
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On The View, climate extremist Greta Thunberg suggests "if we want to see real changes" climate activists can't "only [use] the legal methods."
Adding: "We need to think outside the box because this is an existential crisis."


[Video at link]


https://twitter.com/ThingsHiddenn/statu ... 24231?s=20


Hitler? Seriously?

Civil disobedience isn't exactly a novel idea in environmental activism. Everything from climbing onto oil rigs to chaining yourself to mining equipment or blocking traffic is illegal, but considered a (to varying degrees) acceptable form of illegal protest.
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:36 pm

I can't speak for the author of the tweet, but at a minimum it should be clear he's not comparing Greta to Hitler. My read of the tweet is he's referring to the increasingly draconian positions/rhetoric of the 'climate alarmists' (15min cities, net zero, etc) as having parallels to certain rhetoric from the 1920s.

The citizens of Germany during that timeframe were led to believe there were imminent threats to their livelihoods, convincing many that drastic measures needed to be taken. A confluence of events during that particular time period placed many in a collective trance.

There is no doubt many have fallen prey, minimally, to covid madness the last couple years. 'Climate Alarm' is another compelling siren song.
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Postby DrEvil » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:38 pm

Climate alarm is a perfectly rational reaction to what's happening right now.

That you, for some insane reason, have chosen to swallow the fossil fuel propaganda whole and speedrunning it here is just more proof of how effective their psyops have been. You're doing the same thing you've spent the last three years accusing me and others of doing for big pharma - being a useful idiot - and you can't even see it.
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Postby Grizzly » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:38 pm

https://twitter.com/KeeleyFox29/status/1627416386430545923?s=20
Pipe bomb found on rail tracks in Philly

"just a little bit more oddity to add to the unfolding railway weirdness this past week or so.

It seemed to have not gone off, but by the sounds of it it may have been lit... according to raw alerts tweet":
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1627425183601422339


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https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/17/health/ohio-derailment-rashes-health-impacts/index.html
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:33 am

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Good to see she's getting stuck in: https://www.eastpalestinejustice.com/

Compare and contrast to every politician, government agencies and almost entire MSM.
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:19 am

DrEvil » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:38 pm wrote:Climate alarm is a perfectly rational reaction to what's happening right now.

That you, for some insane reason, have chosen to swallow the fossil fuel propaganda whole and speedrunning it here is just more proof of how effective their psyops have been. You're doing the same thing you've spent the last three years accusing me and others of doing for big pharma - being a useful idiot - and you can't even see it.


There’s nothing rational about climate ‘alarm’. It’s sheer propaganda, demonstrably. Yes, you do exhibit traits of a useful idiot. That you continue to refer to any critique of climate ‘alarm’ as ‘fossil fuel propaganda’ is just one clear example of how deeply misled you are. Just as you have been on the topic of Covid and big pharma ("fossil fuel propaganda" is the same tactic as labeling any critique of mRNA products and/or vaccines as "anti-vax propaganda". Thought-stopping/mindless commentary, quite literally. This is not to suggest there isn't propaganda out there in favor of the gas/oil industries. But there are also legitimate, compelling arguments against climate "ALARM" -- and you, and those of your ilk, refuse to recognize them).

I get how you believe the converse, naturally.

I wasn’t wrong about Covid, and I’m not wrong about the agendas surrounding climate ‘alarm’, despite your continued refusal to see that my arguments on the topic of climate are far more nuanced than your currently propagandized zealotry will allow you to consider, even for a moment. You are blinded by your devout secular religion, sadly.

You can take any further response to the EcoFascism thread to avoid further derailment here (pun intended).
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Postby stickdog99 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:56 pm

Is there more overall corporate money spent on generating pro or anti carbon mitigation propaganda?
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Re: Ohio Derailment - TOXINS Dispersed.

Postby Harvey » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:48 pm

14 people injured following explosion at metal manufacturing plant in Bedford, Ohio

Update: A minimum of 14 individuals have been admitted to hospitals, with one in critical condition, after a horrifying blast occurred at a metal production plant.



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