Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[Grizzly]

I like how people on here spend energy on how and what other people share, instead of the massive psyop still being in play.

[Belligerent Savant]

^^^^^^^^^^

Quite right, Grizz. It's telling that a certain handle returns to this thread after an extended period of dormancy -- coincidentally during the same timeframe that many of the covid dominant narratives crumbled and were exposed as blatant lies, or minimally, FAILURES -- and opts to pick on a low-hanging fruit meme in some shameless attempt to... what? "set the record straight"? ...while blithely ignoring the ample legit content calling out covid policy failures, and/or refusing to acknowledge how wrong and/or hoodwinked they were on covid? If one was so inclined, one need only scroll back and check this thread from 2021 & 2022 to see exactly which handle here typed whatever they typed, and if they have since acknowledged the extent they were misled, or simply called out the talking points/positions they got wrong -- sort of like what Dr. John Campbell did in his Youtube clip above -- or otherwise apologize for the smearing of others here for daring to question the dominant narratives/dogma as the events transpired, at a time when many were largely accepting egregious affronts to fundamental human rights or cowardly attempting to justify them.

But that would require a measure of character that appears to be lacking in some.

[Belligerent Savant]

OBSERVE, a mere sampling of the shameless cowards -- the true deplorables -- that currently refuse to take ownership:


https://twitter.com/legallymom2/status/ ... 45632?s=20


https://twitter.com/JenniferSey/status/ ... 58082?s=20


https://twitter.com/stevlandambrose/sta ... 07552?s=20

See my prior posting for Trudeau's recent revisionist history on this topic:



https://twitter.com/michaelpsenger/stat ... 05953?s=20
One of many long-running egregious lies by Fauci.


https://twitter.com/MmeBlackBalloon/sta ... 16481?s=20

[stickdog99]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-023-00623-0

Nature: Prophylactic administration of ivermectin attenuates SARS-CoV-2 induced disease in a Syrian Hamster Model

Abstract

COVID-19, caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection, is currently among the most important public health concerns worldwide. Although several effective vaccines have been developed, there is an urgent clinical need for effective pharmaceutical treatments for treatment of COVID-19. Ivermectin, a chemical derivative of avermectin produced by Streptomyces avermitilis, is a macrocyclic lactone with antiparasitic activity. Recent studies have shown that ivermectin inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication in vitro. In the present study, we investigated the in vivo effects of ivermectin in a hamster model of SARS-CoV-2 infection. The results of the present study demonstrate oral administration of ivermectin prior to SARS-CoV-2 infection in hamsters was associated with decreased weight loss and pulmonary inflammation. In addition, the administration of ivermectin reduced pulmonary viral titers and mRNA expression level of pro-inflammatory cytokines associated with severe COVID-19 disease. The administration of ivermectin rapidly induced the production of virus-specific neutralizing antibodies in the late stage of viral infection. Zinc concentrations leading to immune quiescence were also significantly higher in the lungs of ivermectin-treated hamsters compared to controls. These results indicate that ivermectin may have efficacy in reducing the development and severity of COVID-19 by affecting host immunity in a hamster model of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p ... ks-against

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In short, the prophylactic administration of IVM reduces the viral load and damage to the lungs, it also inhibits the pulmonary inflammatory response by lowering the levels of Interleukin-6 at the early stages of the infection, IL-6 is one of the biggest contributors to both damage and disease progression, it is the “main player in town” at the start of the infection, and also lower TNF (Tumor Necrosis Factor) at the later stages of the infection, similar to IL-6, this one is responsible for much of the damage in the severe stages of the disease, also a big contributor to long-term consequences of the viral infection.

It also increases the levels of neutralizing antibodies, so IVM is not immunosuppressing, but immuno-modulating in a very beneficial way, without negatively impacting a proper, robust immune response, it also increases the level of pulmonary zinc, something very beneficial in respiratory infections.

Once more, this isn’t exactly “news” dozens of scientists and hundreds of clinicians could attest to both the potential mechanism by which IVM was beneficial and the real-world positive impact of using the drug to treat patients. But more evidence is always good.

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[Grizzly]

Rand Paul Asks Samantha Power: 'Did USAID Fund Coronavirus Research In Wuhan China?'

We were also funding Chinese military research too.

[Grizzly]

BOMBSHELL – Pfizer and FDA Knew in Early 2021 That Pfizer mRNA COVID “Vaccine” Caused Dire Fetal and Infant Risks, Including Death. They Began an Aggressive Campaign to Vaccinate Pregnant Women Anyway.
https://dailyclout.io/bombshell-pfizer-and-the-fda-knew-in-early-2021-that-the-pfizer-mrna-covid-vaccine-caused-dire-fetal-and-infant-risks-they-began-an-aggressive-campaign-to-vaccinate-pregnant-women-anyway/

[Grizzly]

Pfizer, FDA, Dr Walensky Knew Fetuses, Babies Died
Three Days Later Dr Walensky Told Pregnant Women to get MRNA Vaccinations Anyway
https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/pfizer-fda-dr-walensky-knew-fetuses

[stickdog99]

Do you ever consider updating the bullshit memes you've posted on a once vibrant discussion board (with actual discussion) when proven wrong by mainline news, or is it just that no one who cares is around and engaged enough anymore to challenge the BS you throw around this playground so you don't even bother even checking in on your narratives?

Awww. Did I hit a mRNA damaged nerve or something?

The only reason this message board does not contain any vibrant discussion on COVID anymore is because of the extreme cognitive dissonance of all the "good liberals" who heartily endorsed trashing civil liberties because of their outsized fears of a respiratory illness that they have by now all contracted and recovered from ay least once if not several times despite the 5 talismanic Big Pharma injections they clamored for Big Brother to force on everyone around them for no reason.

Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

[stickdog99]

New Preprint: IgG4 immune system reaction to COVID-19 as an allergen that should be tolerated passed to newborns in Covid-vaccinated mothers | Preprint confirms an unsurprising potential problem for humanity.



Excerpt:

Among 47 Covid-vaccinated mothers delivering and sampled between February, 2021 and May, 2022, a subset score for IgG4 antibodies for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, unlike any of the naturally infected mothers. These antibodies are also present in cord blood, indicating they were transferred to the newborns, and will persist for some months after birth.




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The theoretical danger of IgG4 antibodies for newborns infected with SARS-CoV-2 is obvious — it is at least a known unknown risk. Circulating IgG4 might suppress clearance of infected cells that are displaying spike protein, and this might lead to enhanced infection and severe disease, or viral persistence; so far there is no direct evidence to inform one way or the other.

If there is a direct risk, however, it will presumably only apply for as long as maternal antibodies persist in infants, which is only a few months.

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Again and in summary, the theoretical risk of infection enhancement for newborns is obvious; but at least it should only last for the window in which maternal antibodies stick around.

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As long as IgG1 for spike protein outnumbers IgG4 at birth, it still will do so as antibodies fade out.

However, IgG4 can sabotage IgG1 function where it “really matters,” which is on particular spike proteins attached to particular infected cells — IgG4 has been understood for decades to be able to defuse IgG1 complexes that activate “auto-destruct” functions on infected cells via complement proteins.3 This is consistent with IgG4's role in tolerance to begin with — it exists to defuse immune response after persistent antigen exposure.

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[stickdog99]

Peer-reviewed and published

The Novelty of mRNA Viral Vaccines and Potential Harms: A Scoping Review

Abstract

Pharmacovigilance databases are showing evidence of injury in the context of the modified COVID-19 mRNA products. According to recent publications, adverse event reports linked to the mRNA COVID-19 injections largely point to the spike protein as an aetiological agent of adverse events, but we propose that the platform itself may be culpable. To assess the safety of current and future mRNA vaccines, further analysis is needed on the risks due to the platform itself, and not specifically the expressed antigen. If harm can be exclusively and conclusively attributed to the spike protein, then it is possible that future mRNA vaccines expressing other antigens will be safe. If harms are attributable to the platform itself, then regardless of the toxicity, or lack thereof, of the antigen to be expressed, the platform may be inherently unsafe, pending modification. In this work, we examine previous studies of RNA-based delivery by a lipid nanoparticle (LNP) and break down the possible aetiological elements of harm.

Commentary on this scoping review:

What is wrong with the Covid jabs that they are hurting so many people?

The WCH Health and Science Committee aims to keep at the forefront of emerging science. You will be pleased to know that your support has facilitated our recently published peer-reviewed scientific article called “The novelty of the mRNA viral vaccines and the potential harms: A scoping review”.

I have since received several emails and messages from members of the public asking for a simple explanation of the findings of this scientific paper, so, in this article I will endeavour to provide just that.

The rationale for conducting the scoping review was two-fold; firstly, international pharmacovigilance databases (the databases that record drug adverse reactions and drug side effects) have been setting off alarm bells with respect to the sheer numbers of people negatively affected by, and suffering a diversity of bad reactions to, the Covid-19 shots. Secondly, scientific papers on vaccine harms tend to point to the spike protein as the mechanism for causing harm.

We did this review because we wanted to see what research had been done to demonstrate the safety of this very unusual ‘vaccine’ platform prior to its utility and mass administration aimed at preventing Covid infection and transmission.

In our search of the scientific literature, we identified several reasons why the mRNA platform may be unsafe – these are the main ones:

* It is already known that a proportion of people are allergic to Polyethylene Glycol (PEG). The mRNA platform relies on lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) that contain PEG to evade the bodies innate immune system. Not only is this a hazard to people who are allergic to PEG, but it can also cause an inflammatory or allergic response with repeated injections among others.

* mRNA uses host cell apparatus to produce proteins and this protein too can generate an antibody response, which may be associated with inflammation, clotting or autoimmunity. The latter occurs if the body recognises its own proteins as non-self, due to similarities with the mRNA-induced cell-made foreign proteins, and attacks them too.

* Vaccines against coronaviruses have never been proven safe enough to be used outside of clinical trials. We identified 10 very small human trials of assorted other Coronavirus vaccines, but they were all in the early phases (Phase I or II) of testing. None had been proven to work, nor did they have safety data beyond a few weeks.

* Animal studies of coronavirus vaccines have shown high levels of serious side effects and often failed to provide immunity.

* RNA platforms that have been attempted for non-Covid ‘vaccine’ applications prior to Covid, such as for rabies, influenza and zika viruses, have little published and verifiable safety data. Data that are available suggest very high rates of serious side effects. Notably, with regard to RNA ‘vaccines’, the totality of evidence on the use of the mRNA platform for the purpose of vaccination from human studies involved a mere 285 people prior to trials for Covid-19 ‘vaccines’.

Before giving or taking a brand-new drug that uses an unusual technology it’s reasonable to ask ‘What is the evidence base to support the use of this unusual technology and what potential harms may be associated with it?’ To answer this question, we looked at what had been published in the scientific literature.

To our knowledge this is one of the first reviews of its sort to gather and evaluate the foundational research that led to the launch of this new style of genetic therapy injection, inappropriately referred to as a ‘vaccine’. We specifically focused on the mRNA platform itself and not the potential harms from the vaccine-induced proteins or other components of the ‘vaccines’, such as heavy metals or graphene.

In a nutshell, we found that there was no evidence prior to global deployment to suggest that the Covid ‘vaccines’ developed, using an mRNA platform, would be safe.

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[stickdog99]

Latest Walgreens Data: COVID-19 injections do nothing for the first three months, then make it FAR MORE LIKELY that you will test positive for COVID-19



Source: See page 3

[DrEvil]

Do you ever consider updating the bullshit memes you've posted on a once vibrant discussion board (with actual discussion) when proven wrong by mainline news, or is it just that no one who cares is around and engaged enough anymore to challenge the BS you throw around this playground so you don't even bother even checking in on your narratives?

Awww. Did I hit a mRNA damaged nerve or something?

The only reason this message board does not contain any vibrant discussion on COVID anymore is because of the extreme cognitive dissonance of all the "good liberals" who heartily endorsed trashing civil liberties because of their outsized fears of a respiratory illness that they have by now all contracted and recovered from ay least once if not several times despite the 5 talismanic Big Pharma injections they clamored for Big Brother to force on everyone around them for no reason.

Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

I can only speak for myself, but the main reason I don't participate in this thread any more is because you and BelSav steam-roll even the tiniest hint of disagreement with your narrative. You've taken over the entire discussion, and dissent is not tolerated. You two have pretty much chased away anyone who don't see things exactly the same way you do. And the memes are fucking annoying. They don't hit a nerve, they're just bad, and they make it seem like you're more concerned with telling people "I told you so" and feeling good about yourself than anything else.

And yes, I've had covid thank you very much, but I haven't recovered from it yet over a year later, and probably won't, because it's not getting any better. Walking up the stairs or taking a shower now leaves me gasping for breath. It's fun, you should try it.

Also, no one here was clamoring for vaccine mandates. At least argue against what people said, not what your imagination tells you they said. I'll save you the trouble of digging up my old posts: I said I was against mandates, but I was conflicted on healthcare workers since they spend their time around the most vulnerable and most likely to suffer bad outcomes from covid. You'll be happy to learn I'm no longer conflicted and think there should be no mandates for anyone. I should also note that mandates are illegal where I live, so my internal conflict was irrelevant anyway.

[Harvey]

And yes, I've had covid thank you very much, but I haven't recovered from it yet over a year later, and probably won't, because it's not getting any better. Walking up the stairs or taking a shower now leaves me gasping for breath. It's fun, you should try it.

Yes or no: did this happen before your 'vaccination'?

[Belligerent Savant]

I can only speak for myself, but the main reason I don't participate in this thread any more is because you and BelSav steam-roll even the tiniest hint of disagreement with your narrative.

That's just straight up bullshit. The reality is that a fair amount of the counters to the positions/considerations presented here by me, stickdog and others -- counters which largely subscribed to dominant narratives at the time -- simply didn't hold up to scrutiny. This was later confirmed with the passage of time (this is part of the reason all these cowardly, spineless politicians and bureaucrats are now shamelessly attempting to rewrite history and blatantly LIE about their active/aggressive promotion of FAILED/draconian policies).

Unfortunately for them, many have kept the receipts, and will not permit such vile revisionism to get by without being called out. We may yet see some accountability in the year ahead, despite my cynicism.

If we communicated here with passion, it's because we were observing, for a period of time, a nightmare scenario where dystopian/fascist policies were being enforced by govts while MANY that historically claimed to rail against such overreach were not only ACCEPTING it, but in too many cases ACTIVELY SUPPORTING the measures and the resultant ostracism, segregation and blatant discrimination of the "OTHERS" (i.e., those that opted out, despite the avalanche of propaganda). Etc.

Scroll back and re-read the prior pages in this thread from 2021 & 2022, if you care to do so, and you'll have a closer approximation to what occurred, rather than your embellishment.

In any event Stickdog and I (or Harvey, or anyone else that countered the dominant narratives) didn't march in lockstep in our positions or approaches here; we each had our own perspectives and methods for presenting them. Broadly, however, we all were in alignment in recognizing what was occurring during that timeframe for what it was.

I haven't recovered from it yet over a year later, and probably won't, because it's not getting any better. Walking up the stairs or taking a shower now leaves me gasping for breath.

Harvey already asked the question I was going to ask. The unfortunate reality is I know far too many that have taken 1 or more of these covid shots that have similar -- and worse -- ailments. And those are the ones being honest/vocalizing it. There remain a sizable percentage that may be in denial, or fully believing their doctors that assure them their issues have absolutely nothing to do with the experimental product injected into their system (one or more times). It is possible/probable that some of these ailments are also tied to post-covid related issues, but unfortunately the delineation blurs for those with mutliple injections, as the covid shots tend to exacerbate symptoms for a certain percentage of people. Additional covid injections compound any existing lingering issues.

And we still don't know the long-term (3+ yrs) impact to those that may currently feel "fine".

No one in my immediate family opted to get a covid shot. We all got covid (back in late 2021), and none of us have any lingering issues. That's not to say this is the case for everyone that got covid, of course. And repeat exposure to covid over time may well cause lingering issues for a subset of people. But there are now studies and anecdotal data out there that are displaying trendlines that don't bode well for those with multiple covid injections.

The trendlines point to harms caused by these products.

I shared these links here before, but FWIW, sharing again in the event it may be helpful to those dealing with lingering issues:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatme ... ne-injury/

An Approach to Post-Vaccine Cardiovascular and Cancer Care
There is very limited data on the clinical features, pathogenetic mechanisms, and pathological findings of patients who have had delayed complications related to the COVID-19 vaccine. In addition, there is no published guidance on how to avoid these complications. This guidance is, therefore, based on our assessment of the likely pathogenic mechanisms underlying these delayed complications (spike protein-related disease) and the limited available autopsy data.

Post-Vaccine Cardiovascular Events and Cancer
Most serious adverse events following vaccination occur in the two weeks immediately following a dose of the vaccine. However, evolving data suggest that some patients who otherwise had no adverse events from the vaccine appear to have delayed acute cardiac events (often leading to sudden death). This appears to peak between 4 to 6 months after the vaccine but may extend for at least one year. There has also been evidence of an emergence of “turbo” and relapsed cancers in the months following vaccination. We have developed this document to attempt to limit these complications and reassure those who have been vaccinated. Essentially, both cardiac and cancer-related complications are related to the persistence of spike protein. Therefore, any intervention that reduces the persistence and the ‘load’ of spike protein will likely be beneficial.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatme ... treatment/

An Approach to Treating Long COVID
Due to the marked overlap between long COVID and post-vaccine syndrome, please refer to the I-RECOVER Post-Vaccine Treatment protocol for detailed treatment strategies. This page highlights the differences between these two syndromes, namely ongoing organizing pneumonia.

About Long COVID
Long COVID, also known as Long Haul COVID Syndrome (LHCS) and more recently by the terminology “Post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC), is a diverse syndrome characterized by prolonged malaise, headaches, generalized fatigue, sleep difficulties, hair loss, smell disorder, decreased appetite, painful joints, dyspnea, chest pain, and cognitive dysfunction.

Up to 80% of patients experience prolonged illness after COVID-19. Furthermore, many of the symptoms of are common to COVID-19 vaccine-injured patients; indeed, both disorders are considered manifestations of “spike protein-related disease,” with a significant overlap in symptoms, pathogenesis, and treatment.

To complicate this issue further, many long COVID patients are vaccinated, and the symptomatology of vaccine-injured patients is often exacerbated by an acute COVID-19 infection.

Long COVID may persist for months after the acute infection and almost half of patients report reduced quality of life. Patients may suffer prolonged neuropsychological symptoms, including multiple domains of cognition. A puzzling feature of long COVID is that it is not predicted by initial disease severity; long COVID frequently occurs in people who had mild-to-moderate cases and in younger adults who did not require respiratory support or intensive care.

The symptom set of long COVID is, in the majority of cases, very similar to chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS)/myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome. An important differentiating factor from CIRS is the observation that long COVID continues to improve on its own, albeit slowly in the majority of cases. Another important observation is that long COVID includes more young people compared to severe COVID, which affects older people or persons with comorbidities. Furthermore, the similarity between mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS) and long COVID has been observed, and many consider long COVID to be a variant of MCAS.

[stickdog99]

Do you ever consider updating the bullshit memes you've posted on a once vibrant discussion board (with actual discussion) when proven wrong by mainline news, or is it just that no one who cares is around and engaged enough anymore to challenge the BS you throw around this playground so you don't even bother even checking in on your narratives?

Awww. Did I hit a mRNA damaged nerve or something?

The only reason this message board does not contain any vibrant discussion on COVID anymore is because of the extreme cognitive dissonance of all the "good liberals" who heartily endorsed trashing civil liberties because of their outsized fears of a respiratory illness that they have by now all contracted and recovered from ay least once if not several times despite the 5 talismanic Big Pharma injections they clamored for Big Brother to force on everyone around them for no reason.

Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

I can only speak for myself, but the main reason I don't participate in this thread any more is because you and BelSav steam-roll even the tiniest hint of disagreement with your narrative. You've taken over the entire discussion, and dissent is not tolerated. You two have pretty much chased away anyone who don't see things exactly the same way you do. And the memes are fucking annoying. They don't hit a nerve, they're just bad, and they make it seem like you're more concerned with telling people "I told you so" and feeling good about yourself than anything else.

No, the main reason you don't participate in this thread anymore is because you have nothing whatsoever to say. At all.

Please prove me wrong. For two years now, I have not had a single honest conversation with a single person who ever supported lockdowns, school closings, small business closings, travel restrictions, or vaccine mandates. Every single one of those people, including every doctor I work with, has done nothing other than seek to censor me or, barring that, has refused to engage with me. Have I baited people here? Damn right I have. Has anyone had the courage to converse honestly? Not a solitary soul.

Do I or do I not have the right to express my honest views on this issue?