'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat May 11, 2024 11:19 am

HBCU = Historically Black College Universities.

I place the following in this thread for all those self-described 'leftists' that believe they advocate for minorities.

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:50 am

Belligerent Savant » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:48 am wrote:.
A worthwhile addendum:

Slothrop
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great thread for people intent on remembering things.
this one post in particular (below) is a great example of the madness that's overtaken a lot of lefties.

there's a lot of talk about escalating rhetoric on both the left and the right but what i see isn't really a back and forth, it's a product of political tribes siloing themselves off (via social media) and talking only to each other, so the MOST hardcore believers win arguments.

these really extreme beliefs that have no basis in reality take root and become motivating principles of the tribe. so lefties wind up believing, actually, that trump is intent on exterminating all gays, and if you believe that there's no counter-measure that not justifiable.

right and left each have people who celebrate violence, when it happens to bad guys. most keep one foot in reality and anyway are cowards. but for the handful who leave reality completely and have the courage of their convictions, it's imperative that everybody calm the fuck down

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I'll conclude this thread with a multiparter. Sorry I couldnt get in one screenshot, but it's so insane it's still worth saving imo

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

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#LiberatedLisa
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...They pushed the Green New Deal on you, and now even former Sanders progressives like me understand that it was a crown corporate scam from the start.

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:09 pm

Jeff Wells
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The closest we came to manifesting the liberal trope of "putting people in camps" was during covid, and they didn't even notice because they were calling for it.
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Very funny to see people thinking they will be put into “camps” should Harris lose the election. I wonder how many of those people were fine with unvaxed people not being able to participate in society in 2020-2021 (which they say “didnt happen)

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby DrEvil » Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:34 pm

Liberal trope? Am I the only one remembering right-wingers freaking out about FEMA concentration camps for years on end?
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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:32 pm

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I can't speak for him, but I believe Mr. Wells is referring to more recent history (particularly since Trump came into the National political scene), but certainly the notion of 'containment camps' aren't relegated to only one side of the fear-mongering rhetoric bandied about in (mainstream) political discourse.*

*although as pointed out by Sonic below, the FEMA camp rhetoric had its merits.

The overall point quoted in my prior post remains, however: from 2021 - 2022, mandate policies absolutely segregated, otherized and discriminated against those that opted out of a medical product. Many of those that self-identify as 'liberal' openly called for even worse fates (refusal of medical care for the "unvaxxed", and/or death, perpetual separation and containment from 'open' society, etc). Of course, millions lost their jobs and were verboten from numerous venues for an extended period of time as well.

These are all FACTS. And all unprecedented in the U.S.; there were containment camps back in the 40s for a period of time (U.S citizens from Japan were briefly kept in containment camps, etc), but what we observed from 2021 - 2022 (and these measures, in many instances, remain dormant and potentially available to be "re-activated") spanned across races, creed, and color. Despicable and overtly fascist/totalitarian.

And still, entire swaths of people continue to display a sheer lack of OPEN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT (let alone ownership) of these acts.

Denial, perhaps. A hope that by not discussing it everyone will simply forget about it.

But many will never forget.


Lack of acknowledgement/ownership increases the potential that such vile acts may be perpetrated again (or perhaps more accurately: that calls for such vile policies by Authority will be met once again with COMPLIANCE and blatant discrimination -- and worse -- against those that do not Comply. Beyond loathsome behavior by the cowardly 'compliers'.)
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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby SonicG » Sun Jul 28, 2024 3:55 am

The original "freak out" about FEMA camps was quite warranted and was exposed by the anti-war left really.
Rex 84B, short for Readiness Exercise 1984 Bravo, was a classified scenario and drill developed by the United States federal government to detain large numbers of United States residents deemed to be "national security threats" in the event that the president declared a National Emergency. The scenario envisioned state defense forces rounding up 500,000 undocumented Central American residents and 4,000 American citizens whom the US Attorney General had designated as "national security threats" as part of the secret Continuity of Government program. These people would be detained at 22 military bases in concentration camps run by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.[1]


Even Wikipedcia can do nothing to sugar-coat the Iran-Contra shitshow connection (tbh I had totally forgotten about this angle):
The FEMA role in Rex 84, branded Rex 84B, was brainstormed by Louis Giuffreda as a way to ship arms to the Contras, in violation of the Boland Amendment, a potentially impeachable offense. The states of Texas, Alabama, and Louisiana had established civilian "state defense forces" independent of the national guard, recruiting mercenaries through the magazine Soldier of Fortune. This allowed FEMA to sidestep its own and Department of Defense procurement rules for the weapons needed for mass detentions and sidestepped the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits deploying US military forces in the United States to enforce civilian laws against civilians. The Pentagon shipped the state security forces massive amounts of arms and military equipment for the exercise, and the defense forces were instructed to re-value the equipment at its higher replacement value. At the end of the exercise, the security forces only returned equipment at the value originally shipped, leaving surplus military equipment in the hands of civilians. These weapons were then "donated" to Central Intelligence Agency front-charities and shipped to the Contras in Central America under the cover of humanitarian supplies.

Fucking Oliver North and the Christic Institute...Who remembers the 1980s??

CI founder Sheehan was unfortunately always a bit sus. Today:
Sheehan has spoken publicly about UFOs and alien visitation, and has served as counsel for Harvard University psychiatrist John E. Mack[13][14][15] as well as Steven Greer's Disclosure Project.[16] He represents Luis Elizondo, the former director of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program in a case against the US Department of Defense.

Mack is one of the most interesting UFO personalities I think but Elizondo is well...

Elizondo is a proponent of torture, which has been demonstrated many times to be ineffective. He was once labeled in court as the "US Czar of Torture," and Europe had an open arrest warrant for him.

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OK, getting far afield of the topic but this is too good...
Just realized there’s a high chance that Lue Elizondo and the retired Navy doc pedo Bruce Coval Meneley—who oversaw feeding tube torture of detainees & who was recently gunned down by Seattle PD in a child sex sting—were working at Gitmo at the same time

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:45 pm

@eugenicskun

I don't think they're ready for the blackpill about what feminism always was.

You can take it from women who were burned - they do not exist for any cause of justice. So many have disavowed feminism, and not just in the Thiel-whore manner. Those bitches are extremely feminist.

@Inhumansoflate1

I think about this a lot

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Feminism from the outset was anti-communist. Women were granted the vote specifically to weaken the bloc of dispossessed (and unmarried) men and populism, and invent excuses to increase fear between men and women, specifically to prevent any common interest between them.

There were women who were communists, and women who specifically upheld the conditions of women as necessary for socialist society, but there aren't "communist feminists" as such who aren't highly suspect. The working class was never so firmly patriarchal as the narrative claims.

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...So, things that were once considered basic, like "families need to be supported with something other than just well wishes" became forbidden topics. Instead, there was a competition within women to compete to be the "alpha", to glorify the worst excesses of eugenics.
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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:42 pm

Not surprising in this current zeitgeist.

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Having been required to endure a “training” with this grifting ding dong, this brings me no end of satisfaction. I do hope that her PhD is rescinded.

NEW: Robin DiAngelo tells her "fellow white people" that they should "always cite and give credit to the work of BIPOC people who have informed your thinking."

But she appears to have plagiarized numerous scholars—including two minorities—in her doctoral dissertation.

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"When you use a phrase or idea you got from a BIPOC person," DiAngelo says, "credit them."

But according to a complaint filed last week with the University of Washington, where DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education, she hasn't always taken her own advice.

DiAngelo also lifts material from Stacey Lee, an Asian-American professor of education at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, in which Lee summarizes the work of a third scholar, David Theo Goldberg.

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The passage creates the impression that DiAngelo is providing her own summary of Goldberg rather than using Lee's language—a misleading move that Peter Wood, the president of the National Association of Scholars, likened to "forgery."

"It is never appropriate to use the secondary source without acknowledging it, and even worse to present it as one's own words," said Wood, a former Boston University provost who led several research misconduct probes. "That's plagiarism."

The complaint describes dozens of cases in which DiAngelo, who rakes in almost $1 million a year in speaking fees, passed off the work of others as her own.

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:06 am

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I understand 'Soros' is a key villain in much 'Right-wing' discourse. But to presume benevolence by default*, as 'Yann LeCun' demonstrates above, is one of the core flaws in this type of thinking, and part of the reason we're in the malaise we're currently in, culturally. It's become increasingly dangerous to naively presume benevolence by default, as it allows great atrocities to be imposed on populations in the name of "collective good" (I needn't call out the most recent egregious examples of this, of course. There are numerous, particularly since 2020).


*on any topic that involves politics or policy, or related.
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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

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Re: 'Liberals'/'Leftists' in America

Postby DrEvil » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:58 am

Unless I'm completely misreading the above, it's a reissue of policies implemented under Reagan, then updated under W. Bush.
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