United Health Care Shooting (PSYOP/ARG/ETC.?)

[Belligerent Savant]

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First, cross-posts:

I guess assassinating health insurance CEOs is one approach...

Gunman at large after UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in ‘brazen targeted attack,’ police say

Thompson, who was visiting from Minnesota, was shot with a weapon that appeared to be outfitted with a silencer, according to a law enforcement official. The motive for the shooting remains unclear, but Thompson’s wife Paulette told NBC News “there had been some threats” against her husband.

“There had been some threats,” she said in a phone call to NBC News. “Basically, I don’t know, a lack of coverage? I don’t know details. I just know that he said there were some people that had been threatening him,” she said.

Ghoulish responses? I dunno but I think it's fair to ask who started with the ghoulishness?

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Related to the above incident (though I'm hoping not to derail the primary thrust of this thread too far beyond this post) --







It's possible he was in the process of working out a deal when he got... eliminated.

Was just going to post that!

Pelosi...I saw some more stuff about the recent hacking of UnitedHealth and sketchy Pelosi stock trading of a cyber-defense company but was titillated by this search result:

UnitedHealth Lobbyist Announces Pelosi Fundraiser As She Begins Backing Off Pub Option
Nov 12, 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the first time yesterday suggested she may be backing off her support of the public option. According to CNN, Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid "said they would support any provision that increases competition and accessibility for health insurance - whether or not it is the public option favored by most Democrats." When "asked if inclusion of a public option was a non-negotiable demand -- as her previous statements had indicated Pelosi ruled out any non-negotiable positions," according to CNN. This was also corroborated by the Associated Press, and by Pelosi's own words, as quoted in those stories.

This announcement came just hours before Steve Elmendorf, a registered UnitedHealth lobbyist and the head of UnitedHealth's lobbying firm Elmendorf Strategies, blasted this email invitation throughout Washington, D.C. I just happened to get my hands on a copy of the invitation from a source - check out this OpenLeft exclusive:

From: Steve Elmendorf [mailto:steve@elmendorfstrategies.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: event with Speaker Pelosi at my home

You are cordially invited to a reception with

Speaker of the House
Nancy Pelosi

Thursday, September 24, 2009
6:30pm ~ 8:00pm

At the home of
Steve Elmendorf
2301 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Apt. 7B
Washington, D.C.

$5,000 PAC
$2,400 Individual

To RSVP or for additional information please contact
Carmela Clendening at (202) 485-3508 or clendening@dccc.org

Steve Elmendorf
ELMENDORF STRATEGIES
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SOLUTIONS

I don't think this is off the topic of this thread, as it is important to see what, if anything, the Trump admin does to address the ultra-bloated health care industrial complex - especially as a symbol/representative of late-stage US capitalism that Trump will most likely do nothing to change but rather exacerbate in stunning fashion...
You have to think though that this incident will also be wiped off the news soon enough...maybe by another similar incident, although I have to imagine health insurance CEOs are currently contracting private security at lightning speed.

I don't think this is off the topic of this thread.

Seconding this and also re: BS post..... damn.

Edit because just after posting this, I saw this.....

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s assassin may have left message on bullets used in murder: sources

The suspect who gunned down UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside a Midtown hotel may have left a message on the bullets he used to kill the executive Wednesday morning, according to police sources.

The NYPD is investigating the possible message — which appears to include the words “deny,” “depose” and “defend” — written on live rounds and shell casings left behind by the masked assassin after he shot Thompson, 50, several times at about 6:46 a.m. before fleeing, the sources said.

More here: https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/u ... r-sources/

ParaPower Mapping
@KlonnyPin_Gosch
So this could either be a skilled assassin muddying the waters by leaving red herring shell casing clues for the feds or else we may actually be dealing w/ an honorable masked vigilante here

As for it’s meaning, it’s a nifty pun on insurance companies “delay, deny, defend” MO

[Belligerent Savant]

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And this, for whatever it's worth:

@walterkirn
So I was the one to tell you - right away - that the United Health Care shooting is an Augmented Reality Game. (The proof's in my post below the screenshot)

Many said, Huh?

Now we learn the shooter's discarded backpack was full of Monopoly Money

https://x.com/walterkirn/status/1865558492914028661

[Grizzly]

If these mask videos are not AI altered, it's pretty sick... As in wicked facsimile.

https://noauthority.social/@mrman/113600672509762053

https://noauthority.social/@zephyrotv/1 ... 5779983641

[liminalOyster]

Why use a WWII gun?
The pistol reportedly used by the assassin was based on a World War II spy gun, later adapted and sold to vets to put down wounded animals.

The killer is thought to have used an American version of the B&T VP9, which may have been bought in Connecticut, law enforcement sources told The New York Post.

The VP9 is based on the Welrod pistol, which was designed in Britain and used for espionage during the Second World War by the OSS, a predecessor to the CIA.



The Welrod silent pistol was designed during the Second World War Credit: Tim Ockenden


The VP9, sold under the model name “Station SIX-9” in the US, can be bought online for around $5,700.

It is not known why, in a country where there are more guns than people, the killer appears to have used a niche weapon rather than something run-of-the-mill and nondescript.

From The eight unanswered questions about Brian Thompson’s assassin

[SonicG]

A slim thread of a theory - the shooting seems pretty straight forward and Kirn seems a bit of Qanon nutter

Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
The CEO-murder surveillance footage was meant to be seen and picked apart

You are being engrossed in a true- crime Augmented Reality Game with certain social and political goals

That's my hypothesis

No one is engrossed in it, there was an outpouring of sympathy and sharing of stories about how fugged UHC and other health insurance companies are. Dude is probably long gone and as I just mentioned in the UFO thread, there will be other "distractions" next week, especially Syria.

>What's happening that needs this level distraction?

Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
Lots

Pardons is one

War another

If Fauci gets pardoned, everyone will notice, many, for better or worse won't care. War? The US gets into open warfare with Russia and/or China and no one notices because of this shooting??

Another genius chimes in:

Jeff
@cointelpromax
They want their uprising. Modern communism comes through the promise of socialized medicine. The distribution of “care.” It isn’t worth sharing to begin with: Allopathic healing is evil. Broken bones and scrapes aside, any treatment outside of diet and exercise is demonic. All “illness” is actually a moral failing

I sincerely doubt there will be any uprising, any politicians getting behind this populist anger to attempt getting national health insurance in the US because of this. I also don't really foresee more CEO assassinations really happening either. Musk is already carrying around his three-year old for protection!

[SonicG]

Why use a WWII gun?
The pistol reportedly used by the assassin was based on a World War II spy gun, later adapted and sold to vets to put down wounded animals.

The killer is thought to have used an American version of the B&T VP9, which may have been bought in Connecticut, law enforcement sources told The New York Post.

The VP9 is based on the Welrod pistol, which was designed in Britain and used for espionage during the Second World War by the OSS, a predecessor to the CIA.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/202 ... assination

The Welrod silent pistol was designed during the Second World War Credit: Tim Ockenden


The VP9, sold under the model name “Station SIX-9” in the US, can be bought online for around $5,700.

It is not known why, in a country where there are more guns than people, the killer appears to have used a niche weapon rather than something run-of-the-mill and nondescript.

I didn't know there was a definite ID on the weapon and those hostel photos show a different jacket and backpack, although there was another jacket found in the backpack...It took three days to find the backpack and they still haven't found the bike or weapon.

oh oh breaking news!
NYPD releases new photos of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s alleged assassin sitting in taxi after NYC murder
https://nypost.com/2024/12/07/us-news/u ... tos-nypd/#

I dunno but this looks like a third jacket and first appearance of that white mask(?)

[liminalOyster]

[Belligerent Savant]

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There are already t-shirts being sold glorifying the kill -

[Belligerent Savant]

The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a manifesto, “These parasites had it coming,” law-enforcement sources told The Post on Monday.

Tech whiz Luigi Mangione, 26, originally from Towson, Md., apparently hated the medical community because of how it treated his sick relative, sources said.

He has not been charged in the slaying but was taken into custody Monday morning while eating at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pa., ending an intense manhunt sparked by the coldblooded execution of Thompson outside a Manhattan hotel last week, sources said.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/p ... e-student/

[Belligerent Savant]

@brainsturbator

Interesting that the shooter's [Twitter] profile is being left up; they generally get disappeared before the perp's name is even announced. Strange all around.

Dec 9, 2024

https://x.com/brainsturbator/status/1866208176162718088

[SonicG]

I will admit some sus-ness is slipping in. Why the fuck would he still have the weapon? Eating in a Mickey D's? Jumbled political views but that is to be expected with today's youth. Radicalized by a painful back injury, Yukio Mishima and Ted Kaczynski.


Japan population started to decline for the same reason it is declining in most places in the world currently and the reasons are purely economical/developmental. Maid cafes and hostess clubs can easily be traced to Geisha culture etc...

Here's a thread of his tweets fwiw - Mangione's account is now suspended:
https://x.com/loremipsumego/status/1866224456026202418



ETA:
Here's a great general overview thread about Mangione
https://x.com/ThatDudeTaco/status/1866212659424645304

[Belligerent Savant]

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This may be nothing/simply a consequence of his affluence. Or perhaps, there's more to this data point.

@SyeClops

Update: Luigi Mangione is cousins with the sitting Maryland State Delegate Nino Mangione, who represents District 42A.

https://x.com/SyeClops/status/1866211462819315805

Also the following snippets of info, for whatever it may be worth:

@SethBarronNYC
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Curious connection: UHC murder suspect Luigi Mangione's developer grandfather was close allies with Nancy Pelosi's father, Baltimore Mayor Thomas D'Alesandro.

https://x.com/SethBarronNYC/status/1866232468434550812

Speculation:

@LaMarketta

Theory: UHC CEO murder has to do with the blackrock ownership of this company and its 72% govt funding, now being investigated by the DOJ. Nancy Pelosi bought stock of the cyber security company used to investigate UHC's data breach right before it was #uhc #NancyPelosi

And:

“United Healthcare CEO killed 11 days before he was set to testify against Nancy Pelosi, who is charged with insider trading in Palo Alto Networks options after UHC was leaked in February and Palo Alto was set to be hired to handle network security at the insurer.
Pelosi made $11 million on those options, information she received directly from the now-deceased man within hours of the hack.”

https://x.com/legitknuckle/status/1865995860087353734

[SonicG]

I saw that Pelosi stuff earlier, before he was caught, but is it definite that Thompson was going to testify?
Someone just gifted me some nice gin, so I will sift some more information with a stiff drink later tonight because this is really becoming deeper and deeperer:

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
NEW: Luigi Mangione suggests the $8000 in cash & $2000 in foreign currency found on him during his arrest was planted, according to CNN.

Despite everything said in the courtroom, the only thing Mangione had an issue with was cash & a waterproof bag allegedly found on him.

"One of the most interesting parts of that particular hearing was actually his statements after the conversation about bail," CNN reported.

"Prosecutors noted that they found him with $8,000 in US cash, $2,000 in foreign currency, his passport, and also a Faraday bag, which is basically a bag designed to stop transmission of cell service or other sort of things like that."

"At the end of the prosecutor's speech, Luigi Mangione said, 'I actually want to address two of the things that you said. I don't know where that money came from. I'm not sure if it was planted.'"

"And then he also said, 'That bag was waterproof.'"

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1866284380676857959

The news video also mentions that he looked nervous, was hesitant about his actual domicile, and that the silencer was 3D printed...

[Belligerent Savant]

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The Pelosi angle may well be mere conjecture, but regardless of her alleged involvement, she's been a serial INSIDER TRADING perpetrator for years and as a result is VERY wealthy with -- to this point -- ZERO accountability.

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Caveat Lector, always:
(also: me sharing this here does NOT mean I necessarily 'endorse' all of the words depicted. A bit silly to include this disclaimer here, but putting it out there pre-emptively in the event of lazy-brained would-be retorts by a subset here. I share this here as an added data point, to be discarded or incorporated, in part or otherwise, into ongoing theorizing)

@IterIntellectus

> be luigi nicholas mangione
> born 1998, maryland
> family is loaded—grandfather built golf resorts and luxury clubs
> grows up in towson, goes to elite private school (gilman)
> $40k/year tuition but worth every penny—valedictorian 2016
> classmates describe him as “inventive, courageous, charming”
> ivy league material, gets into upenn
> studies computer science and math, minors in philosophy (red flag?)
> co-founds a game dev club, works on ai competitions (halite iii)
> perfect chad: handsome, athletic, ambitious
> graduates in 2020 with a bs/ms combo—dream life unlocked
> lands data engineer job at truecar, moves to san francisco

> 2021: cracks start forming
> gets into surfing accident while on vacation in hawaii
> chronic low back pain (clbp) becomes his entire personality
> can’t work out, can’t sit, can’t live like a normal chad anymore
> goes through the healthcare system hellscape—insurance denies surgery
> spends on specialists, treatments fail, pain keeps getting worse
> resentment grows, starts ranting about “parasite healthcare execs”

> gets weirdly into niche books:
>> “crooked: outwitting the back pain industry”
>> “back mechanic” by stuart mcgill
>> ted kaczynski’s *industrial society and its future* (4 stars on goodreads)
> posts online about banning porn (“toxic masculinity is under attack”)
> follows erowid, explores psychedelics for “self-healing”
> tweets get spicier, but no one pays much attention

> 2022: goes on an ayahuasca retreat
> desperate for relief, looking for answers beyond medicine
> claims he “saw God” during the trip but also fought off shadowy entities
>> describes these as “6D demons” trying to implant ideas into his mind
>> later tweets cryptic things like:
>>> “not all pain is physical”
>>> “they feed on fear, but you can push them back if you see their shape”
>>> “healthcare is only a part of the cage”
> friends think he’s having a spiritual awakening, but vibe gets darker
> deletes most of his old tweets, only posts sporadically after this
> by 2023, he’s fully withdrawn, but *something about him seems different*
>> doesn’t talk about the demons anymore, like the memory was scrubbed

> 2023: leaves truecar, moves to hawaii permanently
> broke, depressed, living off savings, spiraling quietly
> becomes a ghost online—posts less, deletes a lot of old tweets
> but what’s left feels curated, too on-brand (weird foreshadowing?)

> december 4, 2024: unitedhealthcare ceo brian thompson assassinated
> shot outside hilton midtown hotel in broad daylight
> december 9: luigi arrested at mcdonald’s in altoona, pennsylvania
> found with:
>> 3d-printed ghost gun (zero serial numbers, spooky tech vibes)
>> silencer
>> fake ids (plural, why?)
>> handwritten manifesto blaming healthcare execs for “killing americans”

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> here’s where it gets *weird*

> the manifesto:
>> calls ceos “parasites” and “powerful abusers”
>> apologizes for “any trauma caused” but says “this had to happen”
>> specifically names unitedhealthcare as the enemy of the people
> but... it reads like something out of a hollywood movie:
>> too polished, too coherent for a supposed back-pain-ridden maniac
>> no spelling errors, perfect grammar, emotional yet calculated—sus

> timeline doesn’t add up:
>> luigi’s last known address was in hawaii. how does he suddenly turn up in nyc?
>> uses a fake id to check into a hostel near the crime scene—how convenient
>> goes *from hawaii to nyc to pennsylvania* in a matter of days
>> gets caught at a mcdonald’s after a nationwide manhunt. really?

> ghost gun raises red flags:
>> why would a guy like luigi—ivy grad, tech-savvy, spotless record—print a gun?
>> ghost guns are perfect deep state props: untraceable, terrifying, buzzword-worthy
>> feels like a setup to push the “diy domestic terrorism” narrative

> his social media suddenly blows up:
>> goodreads reviews of ted kaczynski go viral after the arrest
>> tweets about healthcare and porn resurface, painting him as a “radicalized genius”
>> but the timing feels off—like it was *meant* to create this image

> friends and family shocked:
>> “he was a good kid,” “never showed signs of violence,” “always so bright”
>> doesn’t fit the profile of a guy who’d snap and assassinate a ceo

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> it’s a psyop

> luigi is the perfect recruit:
>> ivy league pedigree = media catnip, relatable to both elites and normies
>> chronic pain = universal sympathy, emotional hook for the masses
>> anti-healthcare sentiment = taps into leftist rage against capitalism
>> manosphere vibes = taints the right with “toxic masculinity” optics
>> erowid + psychedelics = mkultra callback, easy to manipulate mindset

> the 6D demon fight was part of the setup:
>> ayahuasca trip wasn’t self-healing—it was an astral battleground
>> cia or another deep-state group planted the entities to “break” his spiritual defenses
>> they didn’t just want to brainwash him—they wanted to hollow him out completely
>> the fight left cracks in his psyche, making him easier to manipulate afterward
>> his cryptic tweets (“they feed on fear”) were cries for help before they fully got to him

> by the time of the ceo murder, he’s fully under their control.
>> either the demons broke him, or the deep state leveraged the battle to finalize his reprogramming

> the actual hit? not luigi’s doing:
>> cia or mossad carried out the assassination (silencer screams pro job)
>> luigi’s memories implanted to make him the fall guy
>> ghost gun planted as evidence to tie him to the crime

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> why this psyop now?
> because right vs left was collapsing:
>> trump united silicon valley libertarians, populists, unions, and vc bros
>> woke politics were dying, and no one cared about identity battles anymore
>> deep state needed a new cultural fracture to maintain control

> solution: a class war
>> kill a ceo, blame a relatable radical, watch the chaos unfold
>> left: “luigi is a hero fighting corporate greed!”
>> right: “he’s a manosphere nutjob demonizing capitalism!”
>> the coalition fractures—rich vs poor takes center stage

> deeper goal:
>> scare silicon valley vc into compliance (don’t back anti-establishment movements)
>> pit labor unions and working-class populists against tech elites
>> distract from actual healthcare corruption with calls for more surveillance

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> but the cracks are obvious:
>> manifesto reads like a marketing pitch for a class war—too perfect
>> how does a supposed radical assassin *not* have an escape plan?
>> ghost gun is too convenient—like it was meant to terrify normies
>> social media timeline feels curated—where’s the raw, messy history?

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> the psyop isn’t just about luigi
> it’s about sending a message:
>> “we control the narrative, and we can turn anyone into a villain or a hero”
>> “don’t question the system, or this could be you”

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> luigi didn’t kill brian thompson
> the deep state did

> 3/10 psyop—lazy execution, but it’s working

> don’t fall for it, anon

8:14 AM · Dec 10, 2024

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ayo WTF?!

https://x.com/IterIntellectus/status/1866471620505907342

[Harvey]

The Hawaii connection, again. I recently read Mind Games by David Whelan because since 2020 (like Whelan) I'd been interested to find out whether Mark Chapman's stay at a mental hospital in Hawaii had any kind of 'mind control' history to it, but I didn't get very far. Whelan is a former TV producer and better at getting to the data than I am. And indeed it did. Then there's Trump Assassin No 2...