Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

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Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby bvonahsen » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:05 am

While I don't always agree with Hugh, sometimes I think he goes a bit far, I don't think he is wrong either. Huge makes some important points about how popular culture can be used to further the intersts of the powers that be. <br><br>This article on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2006/06/18/report_from_a_concer.html" target="top">boingboing</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> is a case in point. (emphasis mine)<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Report from a concert by a Serbian war-criminal <br>Serbian writer Jasmina Tesanovic has just written a new piece called "Ideally Bad, or, The Banality of Her Badness." It tells the story of last night's concert by Serbian turbo-folk star Ceca. Ceca is the widow of the Milosevic-era war-criminal Raznatovic, and she goes about in public adorned in kewelry looted from the victims of war atrocities. She is a Serbian ultra-nationalist whose fame is both nauseating and ill-deserved, and Tesanovic's account of her concerts is scathing, brutal, and brilliant: <br><br>Ideally Bad, or, The Banality of Her Badness <br><br>Belgrade 17 June, 2005 <br><br>There is no excuse for going to Ceca's concert ("Ideally Bad"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> but I found one: I took a foreigner with me. I am trembling with shame while the local crowd of Ceca fans is flooding down to the confluence of the rivers of Danube and Sava. The concert is occurring next to the big, ugly monument that Mira Markovic built to celebrate the NATO raids. In the name of the Serbian people, this monument is inscribed. Well, NOT IN MY NAME. <br><br>I am glumly studying this host of young people merrily walking to see their evil pop-idol. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>They are SO young, our children from some years ago, the so called war children. These war kids are high school kids today... Do they remember anything of the wars, of the crimes and massive looting done in their names by their turbo folk icon?... Do they know that Ceca robbed them of their future?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br><br>The widow of Raznatovic has big new tits, extended meaty lips, and is dressed in her usual flowing white robes. She sings the old hits about bad men she loves who treat a woman like a dog. The kids know every word, and sing along. The most famous turbo folk star in the region, Ceca is an eighteen-year veteran, highly popular even in the neighboring areas where her husband and his paramilitary troops looted and killed her listeners. <br><br>Many years ago, when I first wrote of Ceca, I described her as a victim: she was already a pop star when Arkan married her, and the poor little thing was only half his age. I naturally imagined that Arkan was abusing her fame and beauty for his military nationalist goals. Then Ceca became a mature Serbian-nationalist queen, wearing a huge cross and ardently singing of Jesus. Around her neck hung fancy necklaces stolen from refugees or victims. One such necklace, a particularly choice piece of war-loot, was even identified live on a TV show as she wore it. The ranks of Balkan war criminals are lavishly jewelled with such Lady Macbeths. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Nevertheless, our children are thoroughly hooked to this lousy, aggressive, victimist celebration of Serbian male power.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The marvelling foreigner and I were the oldest ones in this crowd last night, perhaps half a million fans, maybe more. The massive stacks of amplifiers were audible for kilometers around. The police were rolling in big buses and trucks, manning all the bridges, in full force around the concert site.<br><br>I wonder what trouble the police expected, for the concert crowd was one of the tamest I have seen in Belgrade. It was a high school rally, really. These poverty-stricken kids were in rubber sandals and cheap little summer tops and shorts. They didn't even have lighters, for the security people snatched these out of their pockets and dumped them on the ground. <br><br>My foreigner naturally expected to see the legendary Balkan temptress surrounded by shaven-headed, heavily-armed gangs of paramilitary Arkan Tigers in uniforms and secret-police jeeps, so he looked quite chagrinned at today's reality. This is a low key show, not badly staged, yet bland and boring. She generously sings for hours on end with scarcely a pause to change gowns, but, remote and tiny on her distant, glittering stage, she often sounds as if she is phoning in her performance. The crowd knows every word of her hits, and she frequently stops singing to hold out her microphone and let them do the work. I notice husky young guys singing in the female gender, so as to mimic every word of their idol. <br><br>In the middle of the concert, she thanks her fans for their unfailing support during her many troubles, then bursts in tears as they supportively chant her name... This widowed mother of two has certainly known her woes: her husband was publicly murdered right in front of her favorite boutique. She also spent a spell in prison because of collaborating with the paramilitary criminal gangs. She started her concert by quoting the late Slobodan Milosevic, when he addressed his own crowds in his heyday: I LOVE YOU TOO. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Still, this is not that old Milosevic crowd of aggressive and vengeful middle-aged Communists. These kids drink mostly Coca-Cola, not even beers, and just jump around.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The security at the entrance has deprived them of every conceivable weapon, patting them down and dumping pens, lighters, anything made of metal. <br><br>So when the singer asks the crowd to light candles for her, this proves impossible. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The police move fast from one edge of her crowd to another, as if fully expecting mayhem to burst out. Nothing happens. The densely jammed crowd of standing teens moves from a sentimental mood, toward boredom, toward overcrowded suffocation,</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and at last toward some vague, general humiliation. Surprisingly large numbers of her fans seem to be leaving early. The concert is sponsored by Volkwagen, broadcast by TV Pink and is echoing across Belgrade, but it is numbing the crowd. Even if she were trying, which she isn't, it would be hard work to whip up any storm of patriotism here. Montenegro has seceded. Then came that hellish 6 to zero defeat from Argentina in the World Cup soccer game. The Macbeth signs and portents just aren't on her side. <br><br>The widow is in good voice, goes through her usual motions and hasn't put on weight, but the strength has drained from her scene. These kids don't have any turbo-folk look; punk, or metal, or techno, or ethno, those would probably suit them just as well. They scarcely bother to rhythmical chant 'Serbia' or point the three-finger salutes. <br><br>Ceca has always idolized Madonna, supposedly using Madonna's show trailer and Madonna's make-up artist, but any Madonna concert would have been vastly better organized than this. Madonna is not a small-time local war-looter like Ceca but a ruthlessly organized global capitalist, so Madonna would have sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of Madonna merchandise to such an adoring crowd. These Ceca fans get nothing much from her: no chairs, no place to stand, no T-shirts, nothing but tough security, badly-printed 500-dinar Ceca CDs and maybe some mineral water. Even her band improves when Ceca leaves the stage for a moment: these skilled rock musicians and gypsy players lay down some pretty hot rhythms when Ceca is not around to narcotize them with her monotonous laments. <br><br>My friends are furious at me for buying the tickets and going to see Ceca. They hate the sight of Serbia in denial and resent the fact that the world takes a lot more interest in a glamorous criminal gangster-moll than they do in us, the others... I have one small satisfaction, because my foreigner is bored and visibly disappointed. He's openly questioning everything he thought he knew about the big bad Balkans. What is this really all about, he is asking me loudly? <br><br>Some years ago, I refused to take a foreign journalist to one of Ceca's concerts. I was so offended that he asked that I even refused to speak to him. I had to consider him a kind of accomplice... Then I fought with my feminist girlfriends, defending the many Serbian girls who identify with Ceca as born female victims. Last night, though, I managed to patch these two contradictory attitudes without bursting. I sincerely hope she sings her laments from a jail cell, some day... Then, I may even applaud. <br><br>Jasmina Tesanovic<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:45 am

<br><br>What a sad article. The very epitome of the never-realized hopes of a generation offered a toxic distraction to stick in their heads for a while like a cigarette.<br><br>When the culture and narratives shared by a group are all from corporations and the criminalized state, psychic fascism results.<br><br>Theater and the performing arts are rituals which sanction societal values.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Then came that hellish 6 to zero defeat from Argentina in the World Cup soccer game. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Sports is one of the worst expressions of tribal competitiveness affirming warfare. I was in France when they won the 1998 soccer finals and the streets were filled with celebrants as if they had won WWII. Madness. Sheer madness.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:39 am

"Sports is one of the worst expressions of tribal competitiveness affirming warfare. I was in France when they won the 1998 soccer finals and the streets were filled with celebrants as if they had won WWII. Madness. Sheer madness."<br><br>Having just read the "HMW your thoughts" thread and replied I was a bit surprised to see this. Your knowledge of post modern thought and culture is obviously deep.<br><br>I doubt you have .001% the knowledge of what tribal warfare or sport is about. To be able to say that you obviously have no clue.<br><br>You cannot cut your semantic mind off from the rest of it, the emotional, spiritual and other minds that inhabit your head. Its not good for you.<br><br>Play sport, then go fight for your life, I am sure there plenty of opportunities to find a situation in the states where you can do both. Then come back and make the same sort of comment.<br><br>Most people that denigrate sport do so cos of unpleasant high school experiences with dickhead jocks. get over it.<br><br>And don't come back quoting reich or some other drivel at me either.<br><br>And reevaluate your mindset.<br><br>The feeling of the people who were around when WW2 was won had nothing to do with the feelings of joy in the world cup.<br><br>They had survived.<br><br>The French had won, on their home turf against incredible odds.<br><br>it might seem really similar but the differences are significant.<br><br>I'll leave it to you to work them out.<br><br>"Theater and the performing arts are rituals which sanction societal values."<br><br>Seriously, come to Australia, and play a game of football with my side. Then you may have the right to make a comment like that, but not without doing so.<br><br>I coach sport, and I coach young men, between the ages of 12 and 17, on how to play Australian football (not soccer,) a full contact sport btw. Making that sort of pissweak generalisations obviously shows that your book knowledge is excellent.<br><br>(I can't wait for the comments about 12 year old boys either. Just think about what you are saying means before you type it. For your own souls good.) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby ivanbo2003 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:19 am

Sad article indeed,i should know.After all I live there...<br><br>Things just got out of the control in the '90s and situation hasn't improved much until today.<br><br>The man who was mainly responsible for the fall of S.M. is dead(sniper shot trough the heart,very sad),and kids are running away from the reality in which they live by attendig such concerts as those performed by "stars" from the '90s who are still "live and kicking".<br><br>Some things just never change.This country and its people are one clear example. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:26 am

"Even if she were trying, which she isn't, it would be hard work to whip up any storm of patriotism here. Montenegro has seceded. Then came that hellish 6 to zero defeat from Argentina in the World Cup soccer game. The Macbeth signs and portents just aren't on her side. <br><br>The widow is in good voice, goes through her usual motions and hasn't put on weight, but the strength has drained from her scene."<br><br>Sounds like maybe they are just over listening to a crap middle aged talentless muso. It might be a good thing that she is unable to enspire Nuremberglike bursts of patriotism.<br><br>Maybe not. Who cares, want a durrie? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby bvonahsen » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:15 pm

"Sounds like maybe they are just over listening to a crap middle aged talentless muso. It might be a good thing that she is unable to enspire Nuremberglike bursts of patriotism.<br><br>Maybe not. Who cares, want a durrie?"<br><br>I care, That's why I posted it. <br><br>I don't think the kids in Serbia feel she is talentless, that is your opinion. Since I am here in the US I have to take that writers word that she is a much loved performer there. They know every lyric of her songs. It seems to me that everyone was down for other reasons, Montenegro seceding a defeat in the world cup. Not because they felt she is a crap entertainer.<br><br>My point in posting this is to show how the government in league with corps suck any hope out of kids. I don't know if you know this but here in the states many high schools are a lot like that concert. School administrations accross the US have been subjecting children to searches and confiscating nail clippers and lighters long before their parents were at the airport. That's my point. It's part of a long accomodation to a regimented society and my <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>belief</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is that it is deliberate. Even if it is not it is still very troubling that people, children and adults alike, are just shrugging their shoulders and going along to get along. I think that is very dangerous. I matters, and it matters whether it is happening here in the US or accross the world. It matters. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:29 pm

I get you chill, that who cares want a durrie thing was meant to be well ironic i spose.<br><br>Thats a fair point, and I missed it.<br><br>But the impression I got was that "the kids" were just getting bored with more pointless crap. Football works with kids aspirations, so 6 0 defeats can be depressing. The writeer gave me the impression that a tired thing had its day and showed its true face, and people walked away - the show lost its life.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My point in posting this is to show how the government in league with corps suck any hope out of kids<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They may have gone away thinking I liked that band that was on when she shut up...<br><br>But your point is very right. Its appalling and sucks. I am glad the kids around here are not in that position. And the adults. tho how long thats gonna last is another story. You can feel the change in the wind round here, it just a matter of whether we can get that weather magic happening <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Serbia shows how to pacify the kids

Postby bvonahsen » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:44 pm

I'm just fine hun, and I haven't a clue what a durrie is.<br><br>I wasn't upset at all. I usually try to write so that I don't appear to be angry so maybe I didn't do so well this time. Sorry if I gave the impression that I was. <br><br>Perception is such a funny thing on forums. People think you're angry when your not and serious when you are just joking. So take it from me... I'm rarely steaming mad (and if I am I'll get over it) and I can have a very wry sense of humor that doesn't always translate.<br><br>No problem over here.<br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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I agree

Postby ivanbo2003 » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:40 pm

@bvonahsen<br><br>I agree with your point 100%.It's all about derpression and the state of minds of these young adults.<br>It doesn't matter if it's Serbia or US ,or whatever country,since the methods of control are the same and the harsh reality is too much for them so they are easily controled. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I agree

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:11 pm

A durrie is is a tailor made cigarette, as opposed to a rollie, that you roll yourself. You're right about the impressions the net makes, I can get lost without facial cues.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>That little fella's got a scoob BTW<br><br>Kids have ears and brains and by now most have heard that they will spend the rest of their lives in what is probably gonna be an ecosystem in freefall.<br><br>I bet that contributes to depression more than anyone ever admits. <p></p><i></i>
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