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Re: The real question is: What evidence do THEY gave

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:04 am

Speaking of the "confession video" --could someone please post the photos of the "fatty Osama"? I can't make my computer do that and it would be interesting to compare these to verified pics of the real Osama. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The real question is: What evidence do THEY gave

Postby FourthBase » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:41 am

Generally, you will see this comparison:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://911blimp.net/images/fake_osama_comparo1.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>But on conspiracy sites, you generally won't see these:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11/Dec13VideoOsama_small.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.mdvnet.com/images/inputs/video-osama.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.wdr.de/online/politik/bin_laden_video/img/binladen_video1.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs39.xs.to/pics/05303/osama_bin_laden_nim.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Thing is, he was supposed to have been deadly sick at the time, no?<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.september11news.com/Dec27OsamaTV_small.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The real question is: What evidence do THEY gave

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:11 am

These are images from videos known to be of Osama bin Laden. <br> <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/binladinvideo.html" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The real question is: What evidence do THEY gave

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:15 am

Shucks they really don't show up. Guess I will just have to live with "image envy" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Jeff asks whether plane materials are the thermite

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:03 pm

No, and Prof Steven Jones covers this question and others in that video I posted.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I don't follow the CD discussions so I don't know if this has been considered. But since a thermite reaction is an oxydization of aluminium and iron, aren't the ingredients already accounted for by the presence of two aluminium airliners and the towers?<br><br>on edit: looks like Isachar pre-empted my question.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Jones covers what both melting aluminum looks like and tests like and carefully refutes other potential explanations.<br><br>He says he has even more evidence that he is still working on before he presents it.<br><br>He also tells of attempted suppression, a SF Bay area mechanical engineer who he won't name "unless he has to" got in touch to dissuade him from publishing his original peer-reviewed thermite paper.<br><br>When Jones rebuffed him he later offered the bribe of potentially huge grants for BYU. That didn't work either.<br><br>Hmm. "SF Bay area." Could this be someone from Bechtel trying to mute Jones? <p></p><i></i>
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Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:10 pm

We need to move on to the 'arrest phase' because of warnings like this one from thetruthseeker.co.uk<br><br>even if this one is a false alarm...I'm sitting on the fence on this one....there is certainly enough concern out there not to be dragged into the 'grassy knoll vortex' of distracting details.<br><br>gc<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Voice of the White House August 27, 2006</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br>TBR News.org – August 27, 2006 <br><br>“The posting of an intercepted conversation between an official of the Israeli Embassy and a party at AIPAC has drawn an enormous amount of attention. Nearly all of this is positive, I am told, but a number of parties have wondered how it could be authenticated. If they could advise me as to how they feel this conversation, and the many others I am now in the process of working up , can be authenticated, I will be happy to address the issue. <br><br>Perhaps a signed, notarized statement from the Israeli official involved might suffice but one has the distinct feeling that such a statement would never issue. <br><br>The initial conversation between an official of the Israeli Embassy in Washington and someone from the AIPAC, also in Washington, has had a tremendous reception, having been looked at over 100,000 times on our website alone, and has subsequently been reprinted on other websites around the world. <br><br>To date, we have had no comment from the Israeli Embassy proclaiming it to be false and there is a great deal of internal evidence that lends credence to its authenticity. <br><br>In the final analysis, it is the opinion of the reader that matters....to the reader. <br><br>This latest posting is important enough but the reader must know that neither of the parties are identified, although their telephone numbers are. One, the A party, is calling from a telephone located inside Washington’s plush Hay-Adams hotel while the second, the B party, is using the main telephone number of the United States Attorney’s office in New York City. It should be fairly obvious that one of the parties, the one in Washington, has some connection with the staff of the Vice President. The call was recorded on August 18, 2006 and I am only showing a portion of it. The rest of what was a 20 minute call is filled with trivia. <br><br>A @ 202 638-6600 (Washington, D.C.) <br><br>B @ 212 637-2200 (New York City, N.Y.) <br>…… <br>A: Of course you never know what is serious, what can happen, what will happen and what is only wishful thinking. But there is enough there…. <br><br>B: How much have you actually seen…or heard? I mean factually, not just latrine rumors. <br><br>A: Plenty. In a twisted way, it makes sense. I suppose it does. Anyway, I have nothing to do with it and just knowing about something in advance is not a crime, unless someone can find a paper or remember a conversation that is. <br><br>B: Before the fact. <br><br>A: Right. That’s why I say you and your family should leave your nice Big Apple place about the ninth of October and go visit your relatives in Arizona. Then you can watch it on CNN. <br><br>B: How long a vacation? <br><br>A: Why not a week either way? <br><br>B: And you? Any vacation for you? But you don’t have any kids or plants to take care of. <br><br>A: True but Georgetown is pretty safe. New York won’t be. God knows what kind of chemicals will be in the air and a good wind coming from Jersey could bring some nasty surprises. Isn’t it better to be safe than sorry? <br><br>B: Sure. But packing up means stories to everyone and I would have to be cool and collected about it. The kids would miss Halloween parties if I stay long enough and there is school to consider. I suppose I ought to call home and get them to invite me. I can’t just drop in on them. <br><br>A: No but try not to sound concerned. How long since you’ve seen them out there? <br><br>B: About a year, give or take. I’ll start on this right away. Will you be involved? <br><br>A: Shit no. I told you I want to know nothing about all of this and… <br><br>B: No, no, no….I mean will you have to go down there? <br><br>A: No. I’m not important enough. He might not even go. He will probably put Bush up to going to show the flag as he could say, while he does what he’s been doing for six years now and that’s running the country. No, he’ll stay right here and make sure he can keep his eyes and his hands on everything. I know he’s been writing speeches and policy statements on this because I’ve seen several when I have been filing. <br><br>B: Does he know you look at things? <br><br>A: Christ, I hope not. I just smile and look admiring and once in a while, I get a brief smile or a nod. He wants so much to be the real President but it will never happen. Too many people hate him. He’s not all that bad privately but officially, he’s a real Beria, if you know what I mean. Competent, very much so, and cold as ice. Jesus, he really does not like Bush at all. I have heard him say things about him…he thinks he’s a basket case. You know, it’s funny because when he put himself on the ticket, he had no idea Bush would be such an intransigent nut. But he’s been waiting for real power for years and now that he has it, he’s not going to blow it. I don’t know why he just doesn’t cash in his stock options when the term is over and retire and write books. He’s got a really bum ticker and he could go at any time. <br><br>B: Quadruple bypass, right? <br><br>A: Oh yes, and he takes more pills than a hippie. <br><br>B: Then why does he care? <br><br>A: His precious party might lose everything he has worked towards for so many years, that’s why. If they lose in November, don’t forget, there could be investigations and I can tell you what with the stock business and the hidden bank accounts, he’d spend his last years in a Federal jail somewhere. <br><br>B: They think they’ll never get caught… <br><br>A: Or die. Anyway, you know enough not to tell your wife or anyone else about this heads up, don’t you. Two ways to get secret information out. Telephone and tell a woman. <br><br>B: My wife isn’t that way at all but I take your drift. I say nothing. But won’t one of the perps get sloshed and tell some cunt about it? Or his priest? <br><br>A: Don’t worry about priests. They’re using Jews for this one, like the last time. I think it’s rabbis, not priests. <br><br>B: They were involved in 2001… <br><br>A: Yes and they passed it on, knowing nothing would be done. And no one is going to nail them on this one because they can snitch about the last one. Hell, they’ve been using that one for leverage for five years now. They’re smart assholes, I’ll give them that. <br><br>B: Why that target and not something like the Liberty Bell? Or they could blow up a plane with a lot of top Democrats on board, right? <br><br>A: If the refinery goes, you can see and hear it in your apartment. No damage to New York but plenty of dramatic fireworks. Keep the media busy for months. At least it will be better than the Aruba adventure. You have to keep the number of in-the-know people down to about three. The hebe guy running this operation is from DC originally and Interpol is after him for his operation down under. Linden is right on the water and it’s easy in and easy out…if they’re lucky. Oh, and here’s a nice touch. They want to leave a dead raghead behind, like some guard shot him. I mean someone they have in jail, over there, not here, with a long record of militant activity and I mean well-documented. And one of my man’s people will accidentally discover him nice and dead with all kinds of fake evidence in his pockets, for certain putting the blame on bin Laden. And that’s a joke because bin Laden has been dead since ’03. <br><br>B: Did we ice him somewhere? <br><br>A: No. Kidney failure in a paki hospital. He makes a good boogeyman. You know the drill: If you don’t vote for us, the rotten, weak faggot Democrats will take over and bin Laden will rejoice and kill all of you. <br><br>B: It has worked before as I remember. Red Alerts and duct tape. <br><br>A: And then we can have real Red Alert days, just before elections. <br><br>B: As usual. Not to change the subject but how do you think the immigration votes will go? My people live in Tucson and they are worried sick about all of the beaners shooting each other over drugs. What will happen? <br><br>A: What do you think? They supply our friendly agribusiness tycoons with slave labor so we make a lot of noise and do nothing. <br><br>B: McCain… <br><br>A: He’s a nut. I guess being locked up in a zipperhead jail in solitary for five years snapped him. <br><br><br>…………<br><br>Editor’s note: Bayway Refinery is a refining facility used by ConocoPhillips, located in Linden, New Jersey. This is the northernmost refinery on the East Coast of the United States. The oil refinery converts crude oil (supplied by tanker) into gasoline, diesel fuel, jet fuel, and heating oil. As of 2006, the facility processes approximately 238,000 barrels per day (BPD) of crude oil, producing 145,000 BPD of gasoline and 110,000 BPD of distillates. Its products are delivered to East Coast customers via pipeline transport, barges, railcars and tank trucks. <br><br>The facility also houses a petrochemical plant which produces lubricants and additives, a polypropylene plant which produces 775 million pounds per year, and has its own railway container terminal and heliport. <br><br>Linden is a City in Union County, New Jersey. Located southwest of Elizabeth, a few miles from New York Harbor. Together with Elizabeth, Linden is home to the Bayway Refinery, a ConocoPhillips refining facility that helps supply petroleum-based products to the New York/New Jersey area. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:46 pm

BTW HMW, I really enjoyed the Dr. Stephen E. Jones video.<br><br>What I liked most about it was his outing of his mechanical engineer e-mail pal....even though he didn't, and wisely so, reveal his name. To reveal his name would have been getting down to his level and begin a personal slanging match...we would have found out...as I have always joked....how Professor Jones banged his teenaged girlfriend in the back seat of his daddys chevy when he was seventeen.<br><br>The fact that we haven't heard all kinds of nasty personal innuendos about Professor Jones is testament to the high level he has kept the debate at.<br><br>Of course, we did hear how Professor Jones has some religious views that some, or most of us, don't share...this is as far as they could go.<br><br>Professor Jones gave us an insight how these folks work...first the stick and then the carrot. The veiled and not so veiled threats of career destruction, followed up by offers of assistance in digging into the seemingly bottomless US government coffers....this is what compromised the NIST guys who told the lies about CD.<br><br>Did they really think they could buy <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>everyone?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> What a venal bunch!<br><br>Still, it's early days for Professor Jones...I would wager that things are going to get very nasty for him...very much like they did for Gary Webb.<br><br>But I suspect that neither Stephen Jones nor Gary Webb would trade places with the cabal even knowing the dangers involved. Nor can we...we cannot be dissuaded or distracted from bringing the perps to justice...<br><br>I would like to turn the discussion to how we can get these bums arrested...anyone have any ideas?<br><br>gc<br><br><br>(edited for typos)<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=greencrow0>greencrow0</A> at: 8/30/06 11:52 am<br></i>
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Re: Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:54 pm

Well, since I long ago turned in my sherrifs badge and bully stick, ya got me on that one GC. Maybe just keep on<br> ibadgering at the left gatekeepers, some of whom are unwittingly so. Keep asking Ed Shultz and Al Franken and Amy Goodman to REALLY have a go at the information now available to anyone what wants it enough to click a mouse. Keep on writing letters to editors of Newspapers, mags etc why the silence why the onesided treatments? Write and e-0mail 9-11 truth to senators, state govs and others. Don't forget to keep on distributing truth in your local community. What else CAN we do? Their big gun is being always able to frame the questions and supply the answers. We can start to take that away. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:05 pm

DBD:<br><br>Maybe if we all phoned the NYC police department and reported a crime....<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>i.e., ...the mass murder of upwards of 2,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 with evidence pointing to the following persons:<br><br>Cheney<br><br>Bush<br><br>Meyers<br><br>Wolfowitz<br><br>Rice<br><br>Rove<br><br>Libby<br><br>Chertkoff<br><br>Ashcroft<br><br>Silverstein</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>and demand that they investigate this crime...do you think if several thousand persons phoned and reported this crime they would be forced to take action?<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:13 pm

I live in a Vancouver suburb and remember hearing how, before they found the alleged perpetrator of the 'missing women' crime....prostitutes were going missing from the downtown east side and eventually they charged Willie Picton with killing over 60 women at his pig farm in Port Coquitlam...<br><br>It actually got to the point where the policemen who had a large police station right in the downtown east side...would be driving their cruisers down E. Hastings Street...and people would shout at them:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Hey, the guy who's killing the women lives on a pig farm in Port Coquitlam...go and arrest him!"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>But, because Port Coquitlam was out of their district...it was years before the man was arrested.<br><br>Sometimes you have to just keep yelling at the police...after all, it is their job to arrest people.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Why we don't get drawn into CD quagmires anymore

Postby orz » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:09 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Voice of the White House August 27, 2006 <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Hmmm, for me the phrase "too good the be true" doesn't do justice to this piece! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Come on... someone's just enrolled on a creative writing course maybe <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ... please, does anyone speak like this in real life!?? If you heard this amount of blatent exposition in a hollywood action movie you'd laugh it off the screen! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>edit: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The rest of what was a 20 minute call is filled with trivia. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>So....... the 'trivia' included THE ACTUAL INTRODUCTION OF THE TOPIC OF A FAKE TERRORIST ATTACK!? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=orz@rigorousintuition>orz</A> at: 8/30/06 2:13 pm<br></i>
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rap song Bin Laden Didn't Blow up the Projects

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:46 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/280806projects.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...ojects.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Maybe this is how to get the message out.<br><br>Salty language and all.<br><br>gc <p></p><i></i>
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Re: rap song Bin Laden Didn't Blow up the Projects

Postby FourthBase » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:02 pm

greencrow, can you allow us to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>discuss</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>brainstorm</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, or are you going to keep posting "Stop talking! Get 'em now!" and more bullshit like that phony phone call? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: rap song Bin Laden Didn't Blow up the Projects

Postby orz » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:35 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>and demand that they investigate this crime...do you think if several thousand persons phoned and reported this crime they would be forced to take action?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>No, they'd just be forced to step up the propaganda and disinfo... better get someone to work writing more ASTONISHINGLY FAKE phone transcripts. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Seriously, I found that conversation you posted pretty funny first time round but looking at it again I actually am quite annoyed... I take it as a real insult that I'm supposed to give such junk the time of day. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Feel genuinely sorry for anyone who would take it at face value. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: rap song Bin Laden Didn't Blow up the Projects

Postby greencrow0 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:36 pm

FB<br><br>folks like you had your 40 year riff <br><br>with the grassy knoll<br><br>we ain't goin there anymore.<br><br>we have enough evidence.<br><br>arrest the bums!!! <p></p><i></i>
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