Why Do Psychos Always Brag To the FBI, Anyway?

by **proldic** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 pm

Seattle Times 9/15/05 Letter tells killer's reasoning for slaying 2 pedophiles By Mike Carter The man who confessed to the execution-style slayings of two Bellingham sex offenders says he didn't kill a third man that day because he expressed remorse for his crimes. Besides, Michael A. Mullen wrote in a letter to The Seattle Times, "... I wanted one alive to spread the message that 'we' will not tolerate 'our' children being used and abused." Whatcom County prosecutor Mac Setter said Mullen's references to his victims' lack of remorse as a reason for killing them was just self-serving justification. He said Mullen planned to kill the men all along. Mullen writes he killed Victor Vazquez, 68, and Hank Eisses, 49, because they "blammed [sic] their victims — they showed NO remorse." Mullen, 35, a longtime petty criminal with a history of drug and alcohol abuse, reiterated his plan to seek execution as soon as possible so that he can wait in the afterlife to wreak vengeance on the man whose crimes he said drove him to kill: Joseph Edward Duncan III. "My goal is to beat J. Duncan to death, so I can be there when he arrives," he wrote in the four-page letter in neat longhand sent from Whatcom County Jail. Duncan is a Level 3 sex offender — considered to have a high risk of reoffending — who faces possible execution in Idaho for allegedly slaying three members of a Coeur d'Alene family so that he could kidnap two children for sex. The body of one of those children, Dylan Groene, 9, was found in a Montana campground. His 8-year-old sister, Shasta, was rescued July 2 while she and Duncan were having breakfast at a Coeur d'Alene restaurant. The awful details of those crimes, Mullen wrote, drove him to commit the crimes he's accused of. "It made me sick to think of the abuse Dylan suffered before he died. To be discarded like garbage," Mullen wrote. Mullen has confessed to the slayings to police and in letters sent to the media before his arrest. He also indicated his desire to plead guilty during his first court appearance. But his letter, sent in response to written questions from a Times reporter, offers more details of his state of mind when he targeted Eisses, who had been living quietly with two roommates in Bellingham. Mullen allegedly used a county sheriff's Sex Offender Notification Web site to create a hit list of Level 3 offenders in Whatcom County. According to prosecutors' charging papers, Mullen — posing as an off-duty FBI agent — went to a Bellingham home shared by the three convicted sex offenders on the evening of Aug. 26. In the letter, Mullen wrote he had gone to "interview" Eisses, the owner of the home. "I wanted to know 'why' he did what he did," Mullen wrote. Eisses had served 5-½ years in prison for raping a 13-year-old boy. He was freed in 2003. Vazquez was convicted in 1991 of molesting several children. Law-enforcement officials have said Mullen used the ruse that he was there on FBI business to warn the occupants of the house they might be in danger from someone who was targeting sex offenders. In his letter, Mullen said he checked the identities of the three men in the house — Vazquez, Eisses and 42-year-old James Russell. He questioned them about their background and confirmed they were all Level 3 offenders. "I then interviewed all three occupants, and out of the three only one showed remorse or guilt. He is the one I let go," he wrote. According to the charging papers, Russell then left for work. He found the bodies of his roommates later. Michael Mullen has told his brother, Larry, it seemed Vazquez and Eisses were bragging about their crimes. To Larry Mullen, the explanation lacked a certain logic. Why would offenders brag to an FBI officer? Maybe, Larry Mullen speculated yesterday, Vazquez and Eisses were merely describing their crimes — at Michael Mullen's request — but it sounded like bragging to Michael Mullen's ears. Efforts to locate Russell, whom Mullen had let go, yesterday were unsuccessful. Setter, chief criminal deputy prosecutor for Whatcom County, said yesterday the version of events Mullen outlines in his letter is consistent with statements he has made to investigators. Setter has charged Mullen with two counts of aggravated first-degree murder, which could result in the death penalty if he is convicted. Arraignment is scheduled for next week. Mullen has written several letters and given statements to police and others about the crimes. During the past several weeks, Setter believes, the statements have become more self-serving. "He is trying to justify these killings, to make it sound like these men had some choice in their deaths, that he interviewed them and they failed his test by not being remorseful. They did not," Setter said yesterday. "He intended to kill them from the outset." Mullen has refused to have the court appoint a lawyer for him. The public defender who has been appointed as standby counsel, Richard Fasy, said he was "not surprised" Mullen had written the letter and again confessed to the crimes. "All I can say is that he is not that bad of a guy in some respects," Fasy said. Mullen is believed to have also authored several postings on a Web log confessing to the crimes and saying he was molested as a child. While he did not address those issues specifically in his letter to The Times, he does say his past was partly what drove him to take the law into his own hands. "Don't get me wrong. 'I' am no saint," he wrote. "I've been haunted since childhood. I just don't want other children to grow up confused, sad, scared. "I am not proud of taking two lives, I would have gladly just gave my own," Mullen added. "But my death alone would have meant nothing." In another section, Mullen talks about how he believes child victims of sexual abuse continue to be abused by the justice system and society. "Some of these children will grow up to be drunks, addicts, theifs [sic] or act out sexually, sometimes becoming pedophiles themselfs," he wrote. In an interview last week, Larry Mullen described many of those traits in his troubled brother, although there is no history of committing sex crimes. Mullen has a long history of drug and alcohol abuse and criminal convictions for forgery and theft. Seattle Times staff reporter Maureen O'Hagan contributed to this report. <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002495887_mullen15m.html">seattletimes.nwsource.com...en15m.html</a>

by **proldic** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:11 pm

Just wanted to make it clear I wasn't saying that this guy Michael Mullen was the psycho I was talking about when I said "bragging", although he was obviously disturbed, and I can empathize with his motives (if it was all true, and there's nothing more to the story), but I don't think his actions are good for a civilized society, either. If you scroll down, here's the part that struck me: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Michael Mullen has told his brother, Larry, it seemed Vazquez and Eisses were bragging about their crimes. To Larry Mullen, the explanation lacked a certain logic. Why would offenders brag to an FBI officer? Maybe, Larry Mullen speculated yesterday, Vazquez and Eisses were merely describing their crimes — at Michael Mullen's request — but it sounded like bragging to Michael Mullen's ears.<hr></blockquote>

by **jenz** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:13 am

I just thought "wish they always did" plenty seem to keep quiet.

by **proldic** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:24 pm

It's my belief that the FBI/LE community is aware of the existence and general location of many many serial killers/perverts, but in fact often acts to protect them from aprehension, for reasons I have not fully figured out. I've been following this stuff for many years, and I'll tell you what I've found is very disconcerting, and difficult to explain without positing either a) mind-boggling levels of (very selective) incompetence from otherwise-extreme professionals or b), an almost-unbelievably huge conspiracy theory. Conspiracy? The FBI's criminal profiler division seems to be involved in some monitoring/collection/control program, rather than actually trying to stop these monsters. One tell is that the personal relationships between the major profilers -- one good example being the now-discredited Park Dietz -- and predators such as John Wayne Gacy. or Ted Bundy, or Otis Toole & Henry Lee Lucas, often goes back before they were accused of crimes, and seems to be more of an enabler role, rather than a law-enforcement role. I don't have the time to lay out all my clues and speculations here, which would equal a massive article, but trust me when I say that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence to back it up. Try this interview, it's not 100% on, but it shows that there's more to this iceberg, and many other people have written about it as well: <a href="http://www.maebrussell.com/Transcriptions/Show%2016.html">www.maebrussell.com/Trans...%2016.html</a> Maybe it's about terrorism, and Murder, Inc., and creating DID, and mind-war, and destabilization of the youth, especially. It's almost too fucked-up to even get our minds around, hence it is easily dismissed. Look into the recent well-publicized case of serial killer and professional pedophile "Jet" Duncan (supposedly this vigilantes motivation for targeting the pedos). If you look closely and read between the lines, you'll see the same protection and cover-up going on. And this stuff is on all levels, not just the FBI. State law enforcement seems to be in on it to, at least on some levels. It's difficult to sort out criminal incompetence on the part of LE from actual protection of these types, but there are often some telling clues. Very suspicious and similar circumstances repeated over and over again for 20 years, a repeating cast of central players popping their heads up at just the right moments, and even some documentary evidence, leads me to see a very dark alter-reality that is not easily understood at this time. This is going to be our history, so we ought to blow our minds now.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:38 pm

They aren't "bragging"...they're reporting in.

by **Watchful Citizen** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:54 pm

Humans are extremely sexual animals with countless head trips about this awkward condition. This creates psychic handles for rule by manipulation like... Blackmail over adultry, homosexuality, paedophilia Bribing with sexual favors Wedge issues of morality theater to keep women percieved as too emotional to control their own bodies thus keeping warrior male culture dominant. I think that new developments as a result of internet porn are worth noting. 1) Relieving some political tension with pornography. Remember Supreme Court Judge Antonin Scalia being quoted as saying he thought orgies were a good thing for people to relieve tension? Hmmm. Think of that as a social safety valve of sorts as scientific fascism realizes that too much tension in the masses reduces productivity. Immediate gratification serves a purpose in a consumer culture. 2) Porn spam seems to be a repellant to some who don't use the internet. It also makes parents worry about what their kids might see and install censorship software that also blocks things they don't know are being blocked. Of course, the real danger is that kids will use the internet to find out just how OBSCENE our government is. 3) Creating an 'amber alert' worry network that cuts into cable TV to tell of another white girl in the dark hands of a stranger feeds racism and serves to have parents want their kids indoors watching TV instead of out in the 'real' world. This effectively keeps kids on 'their meds,' the blue pill leading to 'the Red State.'. 4) Keeping people alarmed over paedophiles and equating homosexuality as a similar scary identity is a way to link sexuality with crime and serves the culture war meme that 'free speech' liberals are too dangerous and perverted to run our country or believe when they say the president is a mass murderer. So sexuality is a way to inflame the GOP's political base of tight-sphinctered fundamentalists who equate liberals and human sexuality with the devil and criminals. Imagine political dissidents being smeared as paedophiles by the government and letting the vigilante population go after them. This is probably already happening. Didn't former UNSCOM wmd inspector Scott Ritter get tagged as meeting underage children twice back when he and Will Pitt were collaborating to prevent the invasion of Iraq? Hmmm. Timing. Hard to believe 'enemies of the state' are guility as charged anymore.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:20 pm

I agree that these things are used as social control. I know, sadly, from experience here in Tennessee, that Amber Alert really isn't part of the equation. A 13-year-old girl disappeared here a couple years ago with NO evidence of running away and the police refused to issue an Amber Alert or to treat the case as a criminal investigation. Naturally, she's never been found. In fact, I'll bet if they issued Amber Alert's whenever they are actually called for, the reverse of what you suggest would be true. I'll bet a lot of the victims would be non-white (while Amber Alerts usually have no info on abductor race). I know just a month after Tabitha disappeared (no relation to me, I just followed the case) an African American girl in Alabama disappeared. I think, to put it EXTREMELY bluntly, that whoever runs these child slave auctions can get more for white kids but will often turn to black kids and non-citizens across the border in Mexico because it's simply easier to get away with. Gosch case suggests that they will "kidnap to order" and take photos first. The other thing is that I've posted elsewhere, the Dept. of Justice does NOT keep stats on child disappearances. They are required to by law but they simply don't. Excuses have been made but this has been going on since a law mandating such passed in 1990 (interesting timing, if you think about it...though I may have the date wrong.) When I saw this, I got chills. Helping kids is such a no-brainer way to get some dumbass politician some face time, the fact that no one was dealing with this suggested more than simple "incompetence". A theme we often see repeated, I might add. And I would venture to add that a very large majority of child porn sites are probably "sting" operations, where if you have influence they don't arrest you but just put you in a "got him by the balls" file. I also think that, many politicians are photographed in compromising situations and are blackmailed this way. Of course, the CIA sets up the situations to begin with. It's a lot like the drug "war" actually. Primarily a means of social control. One can be against legalizing drugs and still see that this is clearly so. Whether against individuals (Marion Berry, anyone?) or countries (Columbia), the drug war is clearly about control and coercion. I know they are pissed they can't just call people "commies" anymore...made things a lot easier. But, of course, Hoover was the master at this sort of blackmail...and he didn't even HAVE an internet.

by **ARV** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:44 pm

Proldic, you said, "...but I don't think his actions are good for a civilized society, either." Why don't you think that his actions are good for a civilized society? He eliminated a problem for society and he's only sacrificing himself. Since citizens can locate and track sex offenders, whatever happens to the information becomes the individual's prerogative. I see what Mullen did as a form of socially beneficial euthanasia. There is no cure for someone's sexual preference--the only reasonable cure is elimination. That is why I suggest isolating perverts from society through sterilization and keeping them cordoned in one large desolate area. Geneticists will eventually know which biological abberation causes adults to be attacted to children. In the next few generations, pedophiles can be eliminated before they are conceived.

by **glubglubglub** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:38 am

viz, the idea that a jury can decide innocence or guilt without necessarily taking full heed of the relevant law ( explained here: <a href="http://www.greenmac.com/eagle/ISSUES/ISSUE23-9/07JuryNullification.html">www.greenmac.com/eagle/IS...ation.html</a> ). I mean, if an aggrieved father tracked down and killed those who sold his daughter into slavery, and the jury had an option not to convict, in certain areas of the country at least and with certain juries drawn therein I can easily see the jury refusing to convict the dude. I've got some sympathy for the pedophiles ( under the theory of criminal insanity ) but none for those who service their needs, and even a single case in which someone who goes after the pedo or the servicer thereof and gets away with it would do wonders -- it'd basically announce open season on all involved. I don't doubt that those making a living by preying on children are cowards at heart -- it's just for now they can get away with it b/c no one prosecutes successfully -- and they'd probably fold pretty quickly under even a very light but credible threat.

by **Dreams End** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:03 pm

yeah, ARV, great idea. I'll pick out the next sex offender I see in the news and off him. THANK GOD that people are never framed or newspapers never get their facts wrong.

Why Do Psychos Always Brag To the FBI, Anyway?

Why Do Psychos Always Brag To the FBI, Anyway?

clarification

psycho braggers

Serial Predators Act as CIA "Assets"

Re: Serial Predators Act as CIA "Assets"

Hegelian synthesis: create crime and offer protection.

Re: Hegelian synthesis: create crime and offer protection.

re:clarification

I'd love to see the 'jury nullification' meme used here

Re: I'd love to see the 'jury nullification' meme used here

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