<br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:helvetica;font-size:small;">well, thanks, floyd, for the humour - i enjoyed 'logicals spooks me' -<br> <br>dreams end, thanks for letting me know your reactions - i didnt know the lack of caps was a problem - no one mentioned it, so i figured it wasnt a problem - i guess maybe they are - or maybe they are useful in showing how things can be different without necessarily being worse - <br><br>you didnt allow it, you say - but really, we allow it every day, dont we? - everyday, we dont allow people to walk around naked - every day, we dont prohibit unlimited fortunes - we dont even talk about limiting fortunes - if anyone believes that limiting fortunes is the way to get rid of millions of problems, they are going to talk about it, they are going to write about it, discuss it, argue it, try to convince others, prove it to people, try to get up discussions - this is a discussion board - work through all the different ideas people have till there grows a consensus, a conviction, a determination<br><br>you say that everyone knows it - do they know it like they 'know' that walking round naked is bad - if anyone sees anyone walking around naked, they call the cops, they act - if everyone knows that limiting fortunes is very good for us all, they have laws limiting fortunes, and they call the cops if they see anyone with a fortune in excess of the limit - this we do not see - <br><br>so maybe many of the people on ri believe that allowing huge fortunes is bad, is tyrannous, is undemocratic, is fatal to survival, is fatal to happiness - and i guess they believe that they are in a minority and that the majority cannot be taught - or can be taught by showing them examples of the evils that huge fortunes bring - with the difficulty of getting incontrovertible information on these matters - so you get bogged down in reporting this, that and the other rumour, arguing forever over this or that controvertible bit of info - <br><br>so the specifics are 1. getting the best arguments, the strongest, clearest, most incontrovertible arguments 2. teaching them, to move towards the point where 'everyone' knows that unlimited fortunes is bad, as powerfully as they 'know' walking around naked is bad - my gathering of the best arguments is at
www.globalhappiness.org [not an org] - if everyone who learns that unlimited fortunes is bad [bad as, as bad as bad gets, as bad as torture, tyranny, genocide, and nuclear winter, universal extinction, which it is well on the way to causing, teaches it to just one person a month, [a friend, a lover, a parent, a child], everyone in the world will know it in just 33 months - so word-of-mouth alone can do it - and word-of-mouth avoids interference by the tyrants that are - <br><br>does everyone on ri know that pay ranges from - $1 - to - $1,000,000,000 - a fortnight? - imagine working a fortnight and getting paid $1! - imagine working a fortnight and getting paid $1,000,000,000! - i do not see that these facts are known - the enormity of the scale of the injustice [which is just a euphemism for theft, stealing, robbery] is largely hidden in averages: average income of the top 20% - i do not see that people are really aware of the total connection between injustice and violence - it ought to be obvious that people are going to be p****d off by having pay of $1 a fortnight while others have higher, but somehow in the human consciousness it seems to get lost - it's easy to ignore other people's reality - although that reality impacts on us enormously - <br><br>you need only think what an uproar would be coused by a govt rearranging american incomes over the range $1 to $1 billion a fortnight to see how much violence will disappear from the world if this injustice is addressed<br><br>we have to reckon with the likelihood that money is SO important, that it is dealt with by the most primitive part of the brain, the same part that controls/causes panic, fight or flight, and the heartbeat - ie, our thinking on money is not up to our thinking about car engines or electronics - and maybe this fools us into thinking: we couldnt be being that dumb about money, we are just not that dumb - but the brainy brain is built over the mammal brain, and the mammal brain is built over the reptile brain, which controls fight or flight - we have to guess we are dumb as crocodiles AND smart as rocket scientists<br><br>we seem to be victims of an alpha-male response to the overpaid - we defer to them enormously - the alpha-male resoponse may be survival-positive in nature, and survival-negative in society - we have to think that we are being blinded to the thieving the overpaid are [unconsciously, sometimes] doing - the overpaid get around $65 trillion a year of wealth created by others - 90% of world income - i dont think ri people know this - i dont think the newspaper reader hears this - i suspect they SO dont know it that they are confident it isnt true - but it is - and the overpaid are not in a hurry to have it known - they are of course in a hurry to have it never known - and they have succeeded - <br><br>we have to count on there being hirelings in university and politics who are awarded positions on the basis of their agreement with the establishment mindset - of course - we have to count on most people being willing to sell out for the bucks - sell out the big picture, which they cant see anyway - even though the big picture is extreme danger and violence for all and extinction up the road a short ways - we have to count on many people burying their heads in the sand - <br><br>the bottom line is that when 99% know that overpay is fatal to survival and happiness, there is nothing in the world can stop that 99% preventing overpay - <br><br>another enemy to being awake to reality is the force of custom and convention - and pride - we just cannot believe we could have been that stupid for that long - although everyone can see that a small community of say a 1000 in which everyone works more or less equally hard, a community in which there is an imp moving property from house to house, in particular moving most people's property to one house - that community is going to be 'disturbed' as long as the imp is active - the enormous power of custom and convention is continuously acting to blind us to the fact that that is the human situation - 'it is the obvious which is hardest to see' - 'plenty of people havent learned the platitudes' ' platitudes like 'the nation built on injustice cannot stand' - everyone is daily practising injustice, supporting injustice, believing in injustice, unaware they are doing so, unaware that most of the pains and griefs they feel and suffer throughout their lives are caused by this universal support and faith in injustice<br><br>who is aiming to get out of the social pool of wealth as much as they put in, no more and no less? - no one - who is willing to receive limitless amounts from the social pool of wealth, although they know that what they add to that pool is limited to the work they do, to their hours of work - it is totally socially acceptable to inherit a billion, win a billion in lottery, be paid a billion in business - although it is not hard to understand that if people all put all their money in a pool and then everyone takes out as much as they can get, there is going to be great inequality, and endless fighting - we have to put all our earnings in the pool, because we specialise in our jobs - the shoemaker cant use a million shoes - but then we allow everyone to take as much out as they can - gates puts in a hour's work and takes out a million hours work, at his peak income - gates puts in an hour's work and takes out on average 50,000 hours work every hour he has worked - the human will has not made this theft illegal - <br><br>a person will knock you down for calling them stupid - [although no one knocked einstein down for saying stupidty is infinite] - but this is totally inexplicable behaviour - we didnt make ourselves the way we are - if we had made ourselves stupid, we wouldnt be offended by being called stupid - we would say: yes, well, that's what i chose to be - we are just in this pickle of being incredibly stupid in some ways, through no fault of our own - but we have to put on our thinking caps and try to save ourselves from what mother nature and human artifice has made<br><br>money was a good idea - it is a convenient artifical exchange item - portable, divisible and nonperishable - to facilitate exchange, which is necessitated by our choosing of specialisation of labour for its efficiency [despite its alienation, its boredom - stamping out toothpaste caps all day] - but money has this fatal side-effect, which we have not understood yet - namely, the amount of work in items exchanged cannot be absolutely equal, so a little work [value, money, wealth] shifts in every transaction, equal to the difference in value of the things exchanged - aggravated by our efforts to slim costs and fatten prices, ie, to give as little work and get as much work as we can - over the trillions of transactions over time, individuals' net effect is to be spread across a range from the ones who profit from most transactions to those who lose from most transactions - injustice [theft] grows and grows and grows - and then money is power, and those with money use the power to lever more money, by hook or by crook or by legal thefts - the second million is easier to make than the first $1000 - after the first million, money multiplies like rabbits - or you get some guns and invade and plunder the neighbours - hitler, alexander the 'great', napolean, etc, etc<br><br>everybody has put their faith in grabbing all they can - i can grab all i can, great! - 'the landlords oppress the peasants, may i be a landlord' - and then people find that the downside of grab-all-you-can is other people grabbing off you - and instead of changing to fairshares, they change to more vigorous and angry grabbing - the truth is that 99% are worse off financially with grab-all-you-can - 90% are 10 to a 1000 [!!!] times worse off with grab-all-you-can - 100% are 100 times worse off where it counts, in safety, peace and happiness - because of the violence, the endless escalating back-and-forth of revenge, which has grown war and weaponry for 1000s of years, and brought us to this eve of extinction, with bombs enough to kill the planet 60 times over, in our backyards - only 1% benefit financially from grab-all-you-can - and, since fairpay satisfies all needs and millions of desires, and insecurity is proportional to the amount of overpay, this financial benefit is very happiness-negative - there are few desires left for overpay to satisfy and the danger increases with the money - the costs of trying to hold on to overpay are endless, and so sooner or later, the overpay is exhausted people plunder, and then consequently attract plunderers - every empire plundered and then got plundered - the roman, the spanish, the british, the american<br><br>fairshares has all the advantages - but the faith is still with grab-all-you-can<br><br>if people grasped just one simple thing: that no one can work more than twice as hard as the average bear, so no income should be more than twice the average income - the average work 50 hours a week, no one can work more than 100 hours a week - the average pay is US$75,000, so no one should be paid more than US$150,000 a year - this point alone would limit overpay and underpay and the consequent violence so extremely, that the world would be transformed<br><br>even if the present superhyperextreme injustice was just, it would be sane and necessary to spread fortunes to prevent extreme inequality of power, which translates to tyranny, cruelty and mayhem for all - power corrupts - it corrupted even the churches - [in which, unaccountably, the people still have faith, although jesus wouldnt] - so power must be spread - <br><br>education is the only alternative to force - force hasnt worked, and it has brought us to hell and extinction - the arguments are very in favour of fairpay as a happiness strategy for everyone - goodness, sanity, dignity, nobility, intelligence, peacemaking are in spreading the points<br><br>who knows? - this truth has been drilling into human mind from reality for 1000s of years - maybe this year is the year it gets through - i dont observe that any economist is making these points, has ever had this perspective - although some have made very good points very well - henry george, frederick bastiat - significantly, both journalist-economists - lester thurow, galbraith, tawney, adam smith sometimes<br><br>if you have doubts about anything here, talk to me - if you have no doubts about anything here, talk to your acquaintance<br><br>this plan makes sense for everyone from the 100% selfish to the 100% unselfish<br><br>as far as i know, it is the only practical plan<br><br>even if it takes a 1000 years to get the message through, it is good [happiness-making] to work at spreading it - it is sane, and sanity-doing is happiness-making<br><br>if you think the plan is no good, remember, it may be because of a misunderstanding - words are deceivers ever <br></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br><br> <br><br><br><br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
by sceneshifter » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:35 am