"Are You Afraid Of The Truth"........

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Postby Sweejak » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:43 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> slimmouse said this:<br><br> Quote:Im questioning why you, me or anyone else for that matter happens to equate Bankers with one particular race ?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>after he said this:<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> <br> Its a pity that here is a proffession traditionally associated and dominated by one particular ethnic group though,<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Uh, well yes isn't that true, I mean the existence of the stereotype? It's a pity he said.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Hey...I'm stifling his free speech by quoting him. LOL.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well this should be relatively easy to determine. Surely someone has stats on who owns what. What difference it would make, after centuries of intermarriage, I don't know and don't especially care. How about it DE, who owns the major banks... I know, the stockholders..... is it really so? if so.... I suggest a STRIKE!! LOL. <br><br>And I'm off of here, this thread, for a while. Been there done that. Plus it'll all come back next time someone posts an item about Jews or Israel. Unless... we all take a less combative tack a more conversational style, not keeping my fingers crossed though. <p></p><i></i>
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Are You Afraid Of The Truth"........

Postby antiaristo » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:55 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Come on, now. Where are all the "DE is a gatekeeper" posts?....The line starts here. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Yeah, DE, I think you're a gatekeeper.<br>I think you are a gatekeeper for Zionists.<br>But NOT Jews. I mean the Zionists that follow the Masonic religion, and serve the purposes of the British Crown.<br><br>The "posh" websites have been getting excited these last few days about the connection between Judith Miller and David Kelly.<br>This is what was on Rigorous Intuition back in August.<br><br><br>antiaristoRegistered MemberPosts: 442(8/31/05 7:04 am)Reply | Edit         <br>Judith Miller and David Kelly <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>A new wrinkle in the Plame affair?Published: August 30 2005 03:00 | Last updated: August 30 2005 03:00Financial Times<br><br>An intriguing new theory has emerged in the case of Valerie Plame, the outed CIA operative.The mainstream media has focused on Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political guru, as the source of the original story identifying Plame. The alleged motive was revenge against former ambassador Joseph Wilson, Plame's husband, an outspoken critic of the Iraq war.Observer now hears a new angle on the story is circulating inside the Justice Department.It involves Judith Miller, the veteran New York Times reporter currently languishing in a Virginia jail for refusing to reveal her source(s) in the Plame affair.Many have assumed that Miller - who never actually wrote a story identifying Plame as an operative - is protecting Rove and/or other administration officials. But the missing link is that Miller is not a political reporter, but rather an investigative journalist who co-wrote a book on America's secret war against biological weapons and later published controversial articles on Iraq's effort to acquire weapons of mass destruction.Now here's the twist: Plame herself is a CIA operative who also specialised in weapons of mass destruction and bio-terrorism. So did Miller get to know Plame while she was writing her book or even use her as a source for other WMD stories? Despite 56 days' imprisonment and a vociferous campaign to release her - Miller is staying mum.But at some point, surely, the truth will come out.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>news.ft.com/cms/s/0494cc7...511c8.html<br><br>Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't doubt it!), but Miller's infamous meeting was on or about 8 July 2003.<br>I always say, it's in the timing.What else was going on at the time?<br>Have we all forgotten Dr David Kelly so soon?The poor man was "done" (Operation Mason in the TVP logbook) on 17 July 2003, having dominated the news for most of that month.<br>Any connections between Miller and Kelly? Too bloody right. It was to Miller that Kelly sent one of his last e-mails. In it was the quote about "Dark actors playing games". Kelly was the primary source for Miller's book.<br>Any other connections?<br><br>Does anybody remember what Wilson's op-ed was about? It was about challenging "those sixteen words" in the SOTU.<br>Does anybody remember what those sixteen words were?<br><br>"The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>BRITISH GOVERNMENT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa"<br><br>The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>BRITISH GOVERNMENT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>It's pretty clear why she's keeping her mouth shut. I've been warning you Americans for years about what the British Crown is doing to your government and your country. About how they are using the Treason Felony Act to take you over. About how Cheney, the top Freemason, is Her top agent.But it's much more important to talk about "antisemitism", isn't it? <br>..................................<br><br>Dreams EndUnregistered User(8/31/05 7:14 am)Reply         <br>interesting, but... <br>Yeah, that's an interesting theory, but besides the "anti-Semitism" angle, I simply think theories that need some country outside of the US to blame for what's going on IN the US is unneeded. One of the tricks after Kennedy was shot was setting up all kinds of "hints" so people would look elsewhere for the villains: mafia, cuba, ussr etc. Diversion. <br>..................................<br><br>antiaristoRegistered MemberPosts: 446(8/31/05 4:08 pm)Reply | Edit         Re: interesting, but <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Yeah, that's an interesting theory, but besides the "anti-Semitism" angle, I simply think theories that need some country outside of the US to blame for what's going on IN the US is unneeded.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>DreamsEnd,<br>Thanks for the instantaneous faint praise.I've been wondering for a while whether your blind spot is of the Nelsonian variety. I really cannot let this pass.<br><br>Did you READ your President's words? Again:"The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>BRITISH GOVERNMENT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa"<br><br>See those words <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>BRITISH GOVERNMENT</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->?That's "some country outside of the US".<br>What the hell are you talking about? <br>....................................<br><br>Dreams EndRegistered MemberPosts: 212(8/31/05 5:00 pm)Reply         Re: Judith Miller and David Kelly <br> <br>Quote: "The BRITISH GOVERNMENT has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" <br><br>This proves the British started the war? Colin Powell got in front of the UN and said a LOT more blatantly false stuff.<br><br>The forgery was traced to Italy. (P-2?)<br>The Pakistani's brought in the money for 9-11.<br>The Saudi's were involved.<br>Mossad probably involved.<br>.................................................<br><br>antiaristoRegistered MemberPosts: 448(8/31/05 5:14 pm)Reply | Edit         Re: Judith Miller and David Kelly <br><br>DreamsEnd,<br>Thanks. Now I know it's Nelsonian. <br>..................................................<br><br>Dreams EndRegistered MemberPosts: 213(8/31/05 5:21 pm)Reply         Re: Judith Miller and David Kelly <br><br>I can't wait till your lawsuit is done and you can explain what you are talking about. <br>...................................................<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm13.showMessage?topicID=56.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...D=56.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The first thing that strikes me in this interaction was how quickly you replied. My originating post was 7:04 and your reply was up at 7:14.<br>Was it enthusiasm that spurred this reply? Hardly, it's "interesting, but...". No facts, but it's a diversion. Most edifying.<br><br>The second thing that strikes me is your wilfull blindness when it comes to recognizing that Bush specified the British Government in those sixteen words. And that this whole Plame thing is about those sixteen words.<br><br>It seems to me that what YOU quote is the diversion.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The forgery was traced to Italy. (P-2?)<br>The Pakistani's brought in the money for 9-11.<br>The Saudi's were involved.<br>Mossad probably involved</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>So yeah, I think you ARE gatekeeping for the Zionists.<br><br>(My apologies to third parties for the length of this post.)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: whats in a name

Postby mourningdove » Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:58 pm

I was planning on posting this <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1808627812&intl=us">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> before zundel's last thread was locked, but didn't get to it in time. From Yahoo! Movies-Coming Soon<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Production Photos: View Production Photos from Protocols of Zion (2005)<br>Protocols of Zion (2005) Poster<br>        <br>Despite all the evidence, millions around the world continue to blame the Jews for 9/11. This belief is a modern-day incarnation of the infamous "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the century-old forgery that some people claimed to be the Jews' master plan to rule the world. Filmmaker Marc Levin sets out to understand why "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" has been revived, and to challenge one of the most persistent, insidious conspiracy theories of all time. In the course of his explosive journey, Levin finds himself delving into the heart of hate, facing those who would traffic in bigotry, all in the name of God.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I hadn't heard of the Protocols until that thread, so I wasn't sure what all the fuss was about with just the mention of the name. <br>Maybe I'll be able to see the movie and learn all about at least one set of opinions.<br>I do know there are many questions about Israel and 9/11 that have never been answered, and probably never will be.<br>Carl Cameron's segment on the spy ring trailing the supposed hijackers, people celebrating when the towers were coming down, Idigo warnings, etc.. <br>When does it ever become a legitimate subject, able to be discussed openly, without all the accusations of being in condemnation of, or feeling the need to defend, Jews and/or Israel?<br> <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Answers for Mourningdove

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:03 pm

1. Fox is a right-wing fascist media organ. You've heard of them, right? You'd be naive to think that evrything they release isn't for a purpose. PLUS, Carl Cameron just happens to be know as a mouthpiece for "retired" CIA agents and State Dept. hands, like the glad-handler diplomats that enable the existence of dictatorships like, say, Saudi Arabia or Indonesia, that murder literally <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>millions</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of Muslims. <br><br>2. Did it occur to you that they might not have been the ONLY -- or even the KEY -- players in the game. Um, like, just because they were filming and celebrating the attacks does not mean they committed them. <br><br>MANY different types of people had foreknowledge, were acting suspicious, and celebrated both before and after the attacks. <br><br>Hey, I distinctly remember some leftists practically gloating, talking about stuff like "what comes around goes around" a la "little Eichmanns" etc. I have a picture of Rachel Corrie wearing a black burka, jumping up and down, and burning a souvenier American flag among a gorup of Palestinian youth. Not on 9/11, but still, don't tell me fanatics weren't jumping up and down. <br><br>Don't tell me that it was just right-wing Israelis. Cause thats BS. <br><br>If you want to try to make the argument that your case, as you have intimated, goes beyond suspicion and implication, and actually links those specific Israelis to 9/11 - in any better or more numerous ways than any of the evidence linking AQ operatives - be my guest. That's different, but the idea that just by somehow celebrating, acting suspicious, or having foreknowledge implicates someone would mean that 1/2 the leftist and middle Eastern communities in the US are implicated as well. Like these folks:<br><br>Egyptian Cabbies Said To Return To Egypt <br>Village Voice 9/25/02<br><br>Middle Eastern Security Guard Warns Friends<br>Seattle P-I 10.12.01<br><br>New York Mosque Warnings: Stay Out Of Lower Manhattan<br>NYDN 10/12/01<br><br>Rumor's In NYC Arab Community About Attacks<br>AP 10.2.01, SF Chronicle 10.3.01<br><br>NY Pakistani Student Forecasts Destruction<br>Insight 9.10.02<br><br>Alsaha.com Internet Forum Threats<br>Newsweek 5.23.03<br><br>Palestinian Activist Warned Colleagues, Returned Home<br>Hartford Courant 2.19.04 <br><br>Dallas (Pakistani) 5th Grader Forecasts WW3<br>Houston Chronicle 9.19.01, 10.1.01<br><br>NJ (Middle-Eastern) 6th Grader Warns Teacher<br>Insight 9.10.02<br><br>Tampa (Middle Eastern) Student Predicts Bloodshed<br>AP 9.14.01<br><br>etc. etc.<br><br><br>3. Odigo Warnings? Contrasted with:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Israel warns the US attack immenent<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Fox 5/17/02<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Israeli ambassador warns US<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Reuters 10.03.01 NYT 10.12.01<br> <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>high-ranking mossad come to Washington to warn about 50-200 terrorists planning major assault on US in August <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Daily Telegraph 9/16/01 LA Times 9/20/01 Ottawa Citizen 9/17/01<br><br>The LA Times later retracts its story after the CIA says "there was no warnings. allegations such as that are complete and utter nonsense" 99/21/01). The other newspapers decide not to retract their stories. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mossad gives CIA list w/ 4 9/11 hijackers names on Aug 23 01<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->German papers Deir Zeit, Deir Speigel, BBC 10.1.02-10.2.02<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mossad warns again on Sept 4 01<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Sunday Mail 9.16.01 Der Speigel 10.1.02<br><br>etc. etc.<br><br>OK?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Proldic's answers

Postby rapt » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:16 pm

You are sounding so like a plant tonight proldic. Feels like I've been smothered with a pile of dirty laundry, and nary a sound argument. Denial is what I am hearing.<br><br>Do you have a point with this deluge of drivel? <p></p><i></i>
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follow the thread

Postby proldic » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:35 pm

you fucking fascist scumbag <p></p><i></i>
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RE:F F Scumbag

Postby rapt » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:46 pm

Sensitive too I see.<br><br>I don't like fighting online proldic, so I'll concede that I was hasty and quick on the draw with that last dig. Just that it is irritating to read a (long) list of distractions when a legitimate question was asked. Not asked by me either, but it is still irritating.<br><br>Really your nasty comeback is uncalled for, as you have no idea whether I am a fascist or a scumbag. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: RE:F F Scumbag

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:18 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Really your nasty comeback is uncalled for, as you have no idea whether I am a fascist or a scumbag.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>True...care to tell us which one it is?<br><br>you may not agree with his post...but there was a long chain of reasoning there..I mean the answer to mourningdove...not the last one. <br><br>He said...he doesn't trust FOX (I thought that was standard around here...but I guess there are always exceptions) and one of the guys was CIA. He then suggested, through a line of reasoning I guess you couldn't follow that if celbration = causation then so many people would have to be considered conspirators that the word loses any meaning. It was a clear argument. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Answers for Mourningdove

Postby mourningdove » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:41 am

proldic,<br>WTF? <br>I have a slew of questions re: 9/11...most of them having to do with our own government. Yes, there were many warnings, from other countries and domestically, yet they went unheeded. Pakistan played their part, and I am sure others did too. <br>I did not say that I thought Israel was behind anything. I merely stated that I had questions. <br>The point I was trying to make is that there are things that need to be discussed, without bringing prejudice, one way or the other, into the equation. I am neither pro- nor anti- Israel, but I want to know why it seems that many in our government have unconditional support for a country that seems to follow few of the conditions set for it's existance.<br>I just want to understand...and was trying to avoid adding fuel to any fires. Guess that the "taboo" subject stays that way. <br>I definitely feel that you gone a bit overboard in your reply though, and I feel you owe rapt an apology. <br>Peace. <br><br>...and regardless of what Cameron is, are you suggesting he made up the stories of the "art students", Amdocs, etc.?<br>Why a false flag implicating our "closest allies"? <br>Is the Franklin/AIPAC investigation to be ignored too? <br>Don't answer...I'm done trying to have a reasonable approach to this.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Answers for Mourningdove

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:58 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Yeah, DE, I think you're a gatekeeper.<br>I think you are a gatekeeper for Zionists.<br>But NOT Jews. I mean the Zionists that follow the Masonic religion, and serve the purposes of the British Crown.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Oh. Glad we cleared that up.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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the 'I' word

Postby michael meiring » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:26 am

I suppose its hilarious in its own way.<br><br>Whenever we see a thread or news about the british, or americans, such as, 2 british undercover 'intelligence/dunce' operatives driving round dressed as arabs in a booby trapped car rigged with explosives, certain posters on this board just ignore the threads. <br><br> But mention the 'I' word and these self same 'gatekeepers' as sure as night follows day, are ready frothing at the mouth hysterically, with all manner of diversions and sleight of hand.<br><br> Anti aristo, you have highlighted this to the max with your excellent post with refrences.<br><br> Diversions to the max. And within minutes of posting, the same people seem to have an alarm going off and the replies are then sometimes within seconds.<br><br> Its so blatant, When someone cannot distinguish that 'the british government' is a country outside the usa...well...maybe its better you dont waste time replying to such ridiculous and obvious debunking merchants lurking in wait on these boards.<br><br> Someone else was waffling about a news item, throwing in the tried and tested debunking methods.<br><br> regarding the news item that was pulled, notice no mention of the content, just an outright dismissal of the material? no mention to the ' The evidence linking the 5 israelis to 9/11 is now classified' ? i guess more drivel will be posted and another 27 diversions used.<br><br> Its pretty obvious to all the neutrals on these boards just who are gatekeepers on here. Anyone in doubt of this, just mention the 'I' word and stand back and wait 20 seconds.<br><br> So the israelis were involved, so what? many countries were involved in my opinion? matters not the nationalities to me, most governments are in bed together, mere puppets to their real masters. I just find it hilarious when the same people 'come out' for all to see as false flag deniers. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: the 'I' word

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:31 am

mm,<br><br>this thread is about a guy who named himself Zundel. Google is your friend...why don't you ask your friend Google about Zundel. <br><br>This poster continually recommends the protocols as a nice read with our morning coffee. Google can help you there, too. But then again, I imagine you're actually pretty familiar with both Zundel and the protocols. He's probably signed your copy.<br><br>The poster linked to an article that proves allegations of Mossad involvement by counting Jews in South America...or people married to "jewesses." <br><br>The poster linked to an article what uses as proof an article which explicitly states that Jews have controlled the entire world's drug trade since the 1700's. By the way, "Jew" starts with a "J".<br><br>Now, let's see a show of hands for those who think that goes beyond "mentioning the I word". But you already know that, don't you Michael Meiring. Maybe folks should google "Michael Meiring" while they are at it. <br><br><br>By the way, as to antiaristo's post...Britain is indeed "another country" but it does not begin with I. Your spelling must be a bit rusty. However, the country actually responsible for making the forgery begins with an I. It's called Italy. Google can help you with that one, too.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I have a problem with your logic

Postby hmm » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:53 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Don't tell me that it was just right-wing Israelis. Cause thats BS.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No it wasnt "just" right-wing Israelis BUT that doesnt mean we cant examine the role of Israeli fascists in relation to world events.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have a picture of Rachel Corrie wearing a black burka, jumping up and down, and burning a souvenier American flag among a gorup of Palestinian youth. Not on 9/11, but still<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>its this kind of BS that i object to most,tarred and feathered yet in the same sentence you admit <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Not on 9/11, but still<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> so what does rachel corrie or burka's or the palestinians have to do with any of this..absolutely nothing<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Are You Afraid Of The Truth"........

Postby Qutb » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:54 am

Antiaristo<br><br>I usually enjoy your posts, I think you (and Peachtree Pam) have done a great job in the Plame outing and Menezes threads, which I'd like to thank you both for by the way, and I think you bring a refreshing and often illuminating perspective to Anglo-American politics. You evidently have something of a hobby-horse in the British royal family, and some - in my opinion - slightly absurd ideas about their power and importance, but we all have our pet ideas and theories.<br><br>But when I read your characterization of DE as a "gatekeeper for the Zionists", I almost spilled my coffee laughing. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>You have to correct me if I'm wrong now, because this gets a little convoluted, but this is your theory as far as I understand it: the Zionists we need to be concerned about aren't really Jews, but Masons, and they are under the control of Her most gracious lady the Queen of England. The same queen has, due to the Treason Felony Act of 1848, dictatorial powers in the United Kingdom. So the British government could perhaps best be described as a Zionist Occupation Government? Zionist meaning Masonic, of course. But the Queen's influence extends far beyond the British Isles, in fact she controls the United States as well, through her viceroy Dick Cheney. Who must then also be considered a tool for the Zionists, meaning Masons. In short, something akin to Lyndon Larouche's Grand Unified Theory of Everything. <br><br>What I don't get is how exactly the Masons are to be considered Zionists, and what their relation is to Jewish Zionists. Is there any overlap here? Are the Jewish Zionists tools for the Masonic Zionists? Are they led or controlled by them? And what's Israel's role in all this?<br><br>-----------<br><br>This is an interesting thread. It's becoming evident that there are conflicting views about what this board should represent and what purpose it should serve. In the view of some, a guy calling himself "Zundel" and recommending that we read the Protocols in one of his first posts (so we can find out "who controls.......?????") should be welcomed and appreciated and judgment should be "reserved". To others, that is indicative of values and views that are antithetical to those we hold ourselves, and of at best a distorted, delusional view of the world, at worst of a poisonous agenda. To some, an article which states that "some say" the Mossad killed Gary Webb, and then proceeds to prove that "some" are probably right about this because a few prominent South Americans are married to Jewish women or have Jewish ancestors (reptilian DNA?), is "fair and balanced", just like Fox News which was pushing the "Mossad did 9/11" theory (shades of Iran-Contras, but that's for another post).<br><br>To others, it reeks of bullshit a mile away.<br><br>Can these two sides even be reconciled? Is there even any point in trying? How much good are arguments going to do, when we're dealing with a difference in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>weltanschauung</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (to use my favorite posh word). Proldic, I believe you were asking a similar question in a recent thread, about what the purpose of the RI board should be. I don't think any consensus can be reached among the posters on this forum about that.<br><br>Dreams End, you're doing as good a job as anyone could do using reason and logic, and you get called a "gatekeeper for the Zionists" etc. I have to respect your tenacity and perseverance, of course you are now even suspected of being the same person as "Zundel" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Good detective work, by the way. I'm looking forward to that post you promised on the blame-the-Jews-sites network. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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Re: Are You Afraid Of The Truth"........

Postby Dreams End » Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:13 am

Qutb, as I drink my morning coffee, sans Protocols, I'll have you know, I have two responses to your post.<br><br>One, Thank You, for your analysis (and summation of anti's views, which do lead me a bit baffled...and if you'll just tell me what a "nelsonian is". But two, this is really NOT a good thread for you to get into if you have grown fatigued of irrational elements on this board. Irrational is the wrong word...Jeff is showing us very clearly that rationality alone is probably not gonna give us the whole picture...and I know I oversimplify your reasons for having taken a breather.<br><br>Now you are on their list, however...you, too, are now an agent and gatekeeper. You posted soon after I did, which proves you and I are the same person. as am I and proldic. <br><br>I don't really mind being attacked. In fact, I don't mind it at all. On the list of things I care about, MM's and the others' opinions of me are somewhere below static cling and who'll get voted off Survivor. However, I do now think that my own efforts here may be feeding the flames, so to speak. One way I'd hoped to limit that was to use this thread to put it all in one place, as I figured anyone who defends this "Zundel", no matter how they parse it, is making their position pretty clear.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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