This obsession with Nazism is a Red Herring...

[eric144]

"what does it tell you when they launch a smear campaign against 'neo nazism', and instead preach the ideals of one worldism, diversity, homosexuality, interfaithism, and tolerance instead?"<br><br>It tells me that fixed ideologies (for example political correctness, New Ageism) are very easily manipulated for dark purposes.<br><br>Even human rights and drug legalisation can be tools of evil in the hands of a major league player like George Soros (to enhance his credibility).<br> <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

Rigorous intuition, smiths. That, and paying sustained attention.<br><br>More T or T, chock-full of details about one of the world's most important historic International Banking Conspiracies <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.animalfarm.org/mb/8.shtml">www.animalfarm.org/mb/8.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/31/05 9:50 pm<br></i>

[glubglubglub]

it's worth pointing out that it took the extermination of ~ 100million native americans to make north america safe for capitalism, so it's just a question of which century's deaths you find more shocking...forcing abrupt top-down changes in an economic system is always bloody work regardless of the system's ideology.<br><br>As a practical matter, eric gets it: focusing on words and ideologies only leads to your getting the runaround as the meaning of words are spun in circles and you quibble over trivialia; if you instead focus on results you may accomplish something. <p></p><i></i>

[eric144]

Whenever someone trots out the communist death rate it's almost certainly outrageous propaganda.<br><br>Let's not forget that the so called great dissident Aleksandr Solzhenitzyn was sponsored by the Soviet government to discredit Stalin and those still connected with him. He was also lionised in the west. It may all be lies or extreme exaggeration. <p></p><i></i>

[thumperton]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>it's worth pointing out that it took the extermination of ~ 100million native americans to make north america safe for capitalism, so it's just a question of which century's deaths you find more shocking...forcing abrupt top-down changes in an economic system is always bloody work regardless of the system's ideology.<br><br>As a practical matter, eric gets it: focusing on words and ideologies only leads to your getting the runaround as the meaning of words are spun in circles and you quibble over trivialia; if you instead focus on results you may accomplish something.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> most of those people died of disease, I believe it was over 90 percent of the cases. <p></p><i></i>

[thumperton]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"what does it tell you when they launch a smear campaign against 'neo nazism', and instead preach the ideals of one worldism, diversity, homosexuality, interfaithism, and tolerance instead?"<br><br>It tells me that fixed ideologies (for example political correctness, New Ageism) are very easily manipulated for dark purposes.<br><br>Even human rights and drug legalisation can be tools of evil in the hands of a major league player like George Soros (to enhance his credibility).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->The idea is that forcing all people to be tolerant of all things is untenable. Socialism begets socialism.<br><br>This the pretext for one world government. <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

once whitey figured out that indians weren't immune to smallpox, it became common to offer uninfected tribes infected blankets. Take my word for it -- instituting a foreign economic system from the top down basically requires genocide of those opposed; the specifics of the system don't matter so much. <p></p><i></i>

[aghast]

"most of those people died of disease"<br><br>why are we still recognizing this most insensitive individual? hey, no worries that 90 million people died. they died of disease. YOU MAKE ME SICK! <br><br>go away you most foul beast of uninformed tripe. you may hide behind the mask of curiosity, but your purpose is plain. your ilk serve none but to poison the well. cast no dispersion hence, and leave us to the work at hand... <p></p><i></i>

[banned]

...to the Firepit?<br><br>Do we take a vote or what? <p></p><i></i>

[OnoI812]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>because of people obsessing about the side that LOST THE WAR</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>the only people that won were the bankers who made a killing funding both sides of the equation.<br><br>and besides the Nazi's never lost the war, and for that matter neither did the Japanese fascists.<br>Oh they were destroyed militarily all right. But Economically ... not a chance...quite the contrary ...They were coddled and nurtured like a fine grapevine. Until now , they own us and are all too ready to reinstitute the slave labor they so adore.<br><br>Ever hear of BMG?...well they're bigboys in our media in the US...and they aint ...Russian<br><br>and if you want to argue...quick, name the top Chinese and Russian multinationals that are household names.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[thumperton]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>the only people that won were the bankers who made a killing funding both sides of the equation.<br><br>and besides the Nazi's never lost the war, and for that matter neither did the Japanese fascists.<br>Oh they were destroyed militarily all right. But Economically ... not a chance...quite the contrary ...They were coddled and nurtured like a fine grapevine. Until now , they own us and are all too ready to reinstitute the slave labor they so adore.<br><br>Ever hear of BMG?...well they're bigboys in our media in the US...and they aint ...Russian<br><br>and if you want to argue...quick, name the top Chinese and Russian multinationals that are household names.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->this is a bit confusing to bandy about these terms that mean different things to different people.<br><br>Could you define Nazism?<br><br>At least with Communism we had a clear manifesto, and Marx' writings pretty much explain all the machinations happening today. <p></p><i></i>

[thumperton]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>why are we still recognizing this most insensitive individual? hey, no worries that 90 million people died. they died of disease. YOU MAKE ME SICK! <br><br>go away you most foul beast of uninformed tripe. you may hide behind the mask of curiosity, but your purpose is plain. your ilk serve none but to poison the well. cast no dispersion hence, and leave us to the work at hand...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> i was just sayin<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/raichu4u/wiggle.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Seventhson]

The fact is that there is nothing "red herring" about Naziism in the USA today. The "branding" has changed from the swastika to the "W" -- it is all about fascist Nationalism based on the theory of "racial supremacy" by the WASP elites run by the Bush crowd of Brownshirts.<br><br>I urge you to read the Bush biography at Tarpley.net and pass it along to your conspiracy forum friends.<br><br>Both Stalin and Hitler were backed by the same banks and financial institutions and corporations, predominated by WASP elites, and so your point is an entirely irrational one and misses the point entirely.<br><br>Cerainly totalitarianism and fascism are evils of the past century and of today. But to imply that Naziism is somehow NOT at play today is completely without merit.<br><br>Because the Bushes were backers of the idealogy of Naziism (and have been of Islamo-fascism and Israeli fascism) by virtue of their financing Hitler and his brutal murderers throughout the 1930's and 1940's and beyond - the historical importance of their factual connections is critical in understandng their ideology today.<br><br>Nothing has changed except the logo for the nazis: brutal terror in support of a global corporate fascist Reich run by the WASP elites planned to run for two thousand years at a minimum.<br><br>When the Bushes and Rockefellers, Dulles, Morgans et al were NOT prosecuted for backing Hitler during the second world war - the foundation was laid for the reemergence of the new Naziism: a maniacal and necrophilic world order based on crimes and thorough bloodlust and violence.<br><br>Red Herring?<br><br>Not in your wildest fabrications. <p></p><i></i>

[banned]

To me anyone who tells you not to worry about Nazis is most definitely a Nazi.<br><br>Res ipsa loquitur. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

I've been on another message board where it is political arguing, mainly the democrats vs. the republicans.<br><br>I made the mistake of mentioning that the Bush's had financed Hitler and that I felt they were still pushing that same ideology today. <br><br>Not only was the right outraged at me, even the left called me a conspiracy theorist. They were in total denial and even though I offered proof in the form of the Federal Register documents and other documents that showed clearly that this was true, I was beaten up verbally and would have been castrated if I hadn't been a female. <br><br>The denial runs deep here in this country. I don't understand why it is so hard for some to believe this is the crux of why a lot of things are the way they are. <br><br>You can take a duck and put lipstick and a dress on it, but the fucker still quacks. <p></p><i></i>