The Final Countdown: ce399 vs. fujacko

by **fujacko** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:19 am

Oooh the Fire Pit! '...as my ass sisses softly on a slim slab of sizzling brimstone...' fujacko, 2006 Anyway ce399, I can see you're not going to change your mind yet, so I'll just tickle your pickle one more time with a few nuanced, yet biting low punches. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Is [deceptive politics and flawed rhetoric] your bag?<hr></blockquote> I'm not at liberty to say, as this is an ongoing investigation. We should allow justice and freedom to run their natural course. me: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>are you suggesting that a possible reason for the Dutch 'NO' is because of our supposed feelings towards Germany?<hr></blockquote> you:<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Yes, of course. That should have been obvious as well.<hr></blockquote> It should have been, yes. But it wasn't obvious; I even told you so in my 2nd response (remember, "I'm not quite sure how the above is related to the rest of your post"). Anyway, if that's what you were suggesting, aren't you almost spouting the same kind of "fucking Schwarzenegger ‘fuhrer princip’ bullshit Fox News/Minuteman Project talking points"? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In concert with the additional information I provided re: German Corporate Control of American Media.<hr></blockquote> Yeah I don't understand that bit; are you saying Dutch voters are aware of German Corporate Control of American Media? Fat chance. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Is "the only reason we voted no against the constitution is that most Dutch people are ignorant and afraid." the same as "the majority of Dutch folks voted NO because they are mostly stupid and fear-ridden."?<hr></blockquote> When you take into account the fact that I immediately withdrew my generalizations--thereby striking out the one real difference between those two statements, the word 'only'--then the answer is an inescapable, deafening yes! <blockquote>Quote:<hr>What the hell does that have to do with anything?<hr></blockquote> It means I don't appreciate people insinuating I'm a Nazi sympathiser. If I were American I'd sue yer ass for defamation of character. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Are you lying about your background ? That remains to be seen. [ed.: how will you find out?] How do we know your opinion is better informed?<hr></blockquote> These are all issues relating to trust. You find it hard to believe I am who I say I am. Why is that? Because I think of my college ethics course when you mention Willis Carto et. al.? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I have offered the collective opinion of four separate people and a whole slew of examples from online sources. Yet, you have failed to address any of the examples I offered<hr></blockquote> Firstly, your "whole slew of examples from online sources" wasn't very extensive; and did you actually expect me to go digging for facts? It's up to you to convince me. Furthermore, this is not a conflict of facts but of opinions, so I addressed 'your' examples the only way I could; with my own opinions. And, as you have decided to ignoreject my experience, not much more can be said. Happy, Holy, Daze In Deed plug: you wanna learn how to deconstruct and demolish like I just did to mr. 'Magic Bullet'? Please visit <a href="http://www.highintelligence.com">www.highintelligence.com</a> for an upgrade! Everyone needs to download the brains newest operating system, OS012, right now. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fujacko>fujacko</A> at: 12/16/05 9:35 pm

by **ce399** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:35 am

I'll keep this simple and to the heart of the matter, because obviously the tactic of my 'opponent' is to blather away forever without making any substantive points or addressing the main questions that have been asked of him. Plus, I've whipped myself up into a considerably foul mood just for this occasion. 1. Let us take a look at a previous 'fujacko' interaction and see how that went: [link=http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Whxm8lzox7kJ:p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showPrevMessage%3FtopicID%3D336.topic+fujacko&hl=en]Google cache of a previous 'fujacko' thread [/link] 2. You find it hard to believe I am who I say I am. Why is that? Because I think of my college ethics course when you mention Willis Carto et. al.? Huh ? Did that make a shred of sense ? What specific kind of Ethics did you study in that course ? It means I don't appreciate people insinuating I'm a Nazi sympathiser. Good. Great to hear it. You're not a Nazi sympathizer. In that case, you'll have no fucking problem answering two specific questions I have for you. Just answer the following questions (third request). Don't mince words: What is your opinion of the Southern Poverty Law Center ? What is your opinion of Willis Carto ? 3. Answer the above simple questions or consider this thread closed and the discussion over.

by **ce399** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:17 am

What kind of pathetic racial stereotypes exist at this link provided by 'fujakco' ? IF = me. AD = Arab Dude IF: Whats up, what are you sellin'? AD: Nothing for you IF: Why? AD: I don't sell to Yahudee (the arab equal to dirty jew) IF: who said I am a jew? AD: you speak Hebrew very well IF: true, but I have nothing against arabs, and I'm pretty sure you want this *flashes 100 NIS bill* AD: aahh *nods smiling* in that case I believe we can reach some agreement, I sell these *getting one cube outta his pocket* this toy is not for everyone  <a href="http://www.highintelligence.com/OS%20012story.html">www.highintelligence.com/...story.html</a> Dirty Jew ? Greedy Arab ? Jew with Money ? There is also a major reference to Buckminster Fuller here: <a href="http://www.highintelligence.com/aboutOS%20012.htm">www.highintelligence.com/...%20012.htm</a>  ... Buckminster Fuller and Foster Bailey (Alice's husband) confirmed that religious freedom must end in the New Age, to be replaced by a world-state religion. <a href="http://www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/exposeofthenewage.html">www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/expo...ewage.html</a>  ...the article provides a wealth of information about the New Age/NWO and the genocidal plan which has been determined for the Jews.   National governments also threaten globalism. If the goal is to unite all peoples under one international banner, any nationalism or patriotism blocks the progress of that vision. Globalist and architect, Buckminster Fuller once said that, "Nationalism is the blood clot in the world's circulatory system." Among nations, the United States stands as one of the greatest obstacles to globalism. The European community has already acquiesced to regional and international plans, and other emerging nations willingly join the international community.  <a href="http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/global.html">www.leaderu.com/orgs/prob...lobal.html</a>  Zen fascists will control you Hundred percent natural You will jog for the master race And always wear the happy face Close your eyes, can't happen here Big Bro' on white horse is near The hippies won't come back you say Mellow out or you will pay That's all you need to really know.

by **fujacko** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:39 am

content deleted for being useless and irrelevant You may have had a chance to read the original posts, ce399. There were some harsh critiques and a few rash judgements. If you were a friend I would have apologized, but for now erasing the posts will suffice. I assume we can lay this to rest now. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fujacko>fujacko</A> at: 12/17/05 2:33 pm

by **fujacko** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:12 am

content deleted for being useless and irrelevant Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fujacko>fujacko</A> at: 12/17/05 2:28 pm

by **fujacko** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:26 am

Here is the full story. As anyone with a quarterounce of a hypothalamus can see, this story has nothing to do with being Jewish or Arab. Plus, it was written by an Israeli, who might only be repeating stereotypes that are generally common in that part of the world. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>DVENTURES OF OS-012, AND THE CUBE CALLED BRAIN a Short true Story. Written and Posted by OS 012 user; In Finity, real name unknown (location; Israel) at anomalies.net on March 03, 2003, 15:30: I went to the local black market to buy me some cheap parts for a little project I'm working on... when I just arrived I encountered an old arab dude that sold Hungaric cubes, those little toys where you turn the little cubes in order to make all cubes with same color match on each side of the bigger cube... anyway, here's our conversation: IF = me. AD = Arab Dude IF: Whats up, what are you sellin'? AD: Nothing for you IF: Why? AD: I don't sell to Yahudee (the arab equal to dirty jew) IF: who said I am a jew? AD: you speak Hebrew very well IF: true, but I have nothing against arabs, and I'm pretty sure you want this *flashes 100 NIS bill* AD: aahh *nods smiling* in that case I believe we can reach some agreement, I sell these *getting one cube outta his pocket* this toy is not for everyone IF: how come? AD: you have to use your brain to play it IF: can you show me how to use it? AD: *explaining while playing with the cube* get together all the little cubes with the same color, that is your objective IF: that looks easy, let me try... At that point I found myself standing there for half hour trying to get the pieces together, he laughed at me all this time... IF: *sad and frustrated* I guess that toy is not for me... AD: that's because you don't know what you're doing, all you do is trying to reach your objective without knowing how, I can see you are afraid to ask for my help IF: can you help me? AD: listen! you will never reach your objective if you blindly try to combine the cubes! IF: you have a better idea? AD: if you want to win you have to use logic and put your feelings aside, then, instead of frustration all you see is the will to succeed in your mission! IF: sounds good AD: *very angry* don't speak! use your feelings to control yourself! (look who's talkin'... ) you must forget your urge to throw away the cube, instead try to work harder and you will get to the solution! do you understand?! IF: yeah sure, can I buy it now? AD: Yahudee! All they see is money! IF: *gulp* umm... sure... here's your cash, c'ya now! When I returned home I opened up my computer and entered my favourite site, memes.org! There, I saw a link with the title "a master-meme to stop the war". sounds good to me, a few clicks after that I'm in a page called OS-012... The next few days went by very slowly... all I did was to sit in my room, read OS-012 again and again, play my toy (without success), and sleep... I had thoughts, about every event in my life, everything I ever said, everything I ever did in those 19 years since I was born... The day I decided I can see see the rest of the world again was the day I succeeded in playing the toy as the arab suggested, his words were getting a new meaning, between the day I got the toy and the day I managed to 'get it', I learned about two types of humans, those who give up and throw away the 'big cube' and those who are willing to continue and rearrange the 'little cubes' over and over until they finally 'get it' right... As far as I'm concerned I used OS-012 to get those 'little cubes' working together, I can finally look at the big cube and smile, and I love it, I love it very VERY much<hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fujacko>fujacko</A> at: 12/17/05 7:44 am

by **ce399** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:49 pm

Here is the full story. As anyone with a quarterounce of a hypothalamus can see, this story has nothing to do with being Jewish or Arab. Plus, it was written by an Israeli, who might only be repeating stereotypes that are generally common in that part of the world. I can't fucking believe this. We're having a simple 'discussion' and I ask you two simple questions, yet you have repeatedly refused to answer. This isn't exactly the House Un-American Activities Committee I've been conducting here. You have a discussion with someone, it's perfectly legitimate to gauge what the other person's opinion is on 'extremist' viewpoints. These viewpoints are not wholly without their merits and I don't entirely disagree with the people who adhere to them, to be perfectly honest. But, you refuse to answer these questions. What are we to conclude from that ? There were some harsh critiques and a few rash judgements. I don't give a fuck man. Should have let her rip. This ain't the time for mincing words or self-censorship. As for the "Cube" as possible metaphor for the Palestinian State question...or whatever it's suppose to be, sorry but this is all so much unadulterated and freaky rubbish. Perhaps the methods have an ounce of validity to them, but the presentation sucks, to put it mildly. Not worth going into any further. And a man/woman of your intelligence should know better and is worthy of more. Have the last word, I don't care. fin. telos. das Ende.