Desmond Tutu calling for genocide against the Jews...

[slimmouse]

Now maybe you can elaborate, on whether you thought the question about this mythical book which so effortlessly 'proves' the supposedly "set in stone" 6 million, was a reasonable and non-loaded one? And if so do you have an answer?

Heres my opinion , which has actually been stated endlessly upon this board, and not hidden from anyone,

Was there a holocaust ? Yes there was.

Was it 6 million Jews ? Most likely not.

Is the above number important or relevant ? Not at all, unless youre dumb enough to get involved in the debate.

Therefore Is this whole "holocaust denial" ruse the work of clever manipulative fucks , who play with our emotions in order to further "the plan" ? Absolutely.

So, how does this whole thing play out.

Well, as usual this disguises the REAL criminals, who have NO RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION whatsoever , at least as common people might understand the term, and who have , in what is a macabre stroke of genius, used the aforementioned murder of bovi/useless eaters/ goyim to further an agenda that is older (IMHO) than anyone can imagine.

And yes, even "the jews" are Goyim to these fucks. Expendable "useless eaters"

The State of Israel is more misery for the said useless eaters. Gotta hand it to the Global Oligarchs. They create a "safe haven" for the victims of their own handywork, in order to further line their own pockets.

Paid for in taxes by you and I, and in the deprivation of the gift of an enjoyable physical existence ( life ) for all the people of the M.E.

[yesferatu]

<<whether you thought the question about this mythical book which so effortlessly 'proves' the supposedly "set in stone" 6 million, was a reasonable and non-loaded one>>

I did not call such a book mythical. You assumed I believe there is no such book. A 700 page book could tie all the facts together to conclusively substantiate a figure of 6 million give or take a few hundred thousand. I would think it should have been written by now.

I mentioned in earlier threads that Mr. A's comments about Israel being wiped out is pure BS, since he said "just like the Soviet Union". Which gives ANY journalist the OBVIOUS clue as to how this should be reported. But it is not reported as such because why? Because he doubts the 6 million figure. So he is evil. And it occured to me that these eff'n zionists should be able to point to one goddamned book that has a clear 6 million figure as the insurmountable verdict of history from all facts being brought together in one book.
Too complicated? Bull. Tie it all together. In one book...if it goes over 500 pages, what is that? I have read books with well over 1000 pages. About subjects less important.
I ask: Is there such a book?
Is that too loaded for ya???? Too bad.
Btw, you point to the book, I will read it. I am not close minded.
Why do zionist NEED SIX million??? One million or two million ain't good enough to cover for their bloodthirsty evil which they commit in excess of a past holocaust? Jews believe an eye for an eye. So I guess it is a holocaust for a holocaust.
Interesting about the documents they released last week..."Hitler's very own holocaust records". Why NOW? But the curious thing: the super-detailed records of the victims: recording the number of lice in the hair of a prisoner, and recording it. If these people ALL were to be killed, why are the Germans making these documents about the effing number of lice on the head of some poor schmuck who will soon be gassed?
"Oh, well that is just typical German anal retentiveness."
Oh please.
Slave labor was NEEDED.

[Mad Onion]

One million or two million ain't good enough to cover for their bloodthirsty evil which they commit in excess of a past holocaust? Jews believe an eye for an eye. So I guess it is a holocaust for a holocaust

The Onion wonders if this board is moderated. And if so, one wonders if such filth is typically allowed here. The Onion was led here by the discussion of David Duke, and the defense offered of him. There was no comment from Mr. Wells or any sort of moderator. The Onion is not a fan of Mr. Duke and takes pains to point this out when appropriate. Is Mr. Wells a fan, or should one read his silence differently?

And now this Yesferatu post is one of the single most offensive posts this onion has ever laid eyes upon, outside of the overt websites such as Stormfront. Is this allowed to stand? Are such comments reflective of the Jeff Wells blog to which it is attached?

The Onion is a kosher vegetable, you see. And he is not amused.

Just in case Yesferatu was actually serious....here are two works on the specifics of the Holocaust. Happy Reading, Mr. Yesferatu.

Destruction of the European Jews by Raul Hilberg (Sigh in relief, Mr. Yes, Hilberg finds the number of murdered Jews closer to 5 million.)

http://www.amazon.com/Destruction-European-Jews-Raul-Hilberg/dp/0841909105
(The Onion apologizes for the long link...there seems no way to link text to a URL without listing the entire URL. Most annoying.)

The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War by Martin Gilbert
http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-History-Europe-During-Second/dp/0805003487

Battling Holocaust revisionists is a vocation of the Onion. As such, this site is helpful:

http://www.nizkor.org/

And since many of the non-thinkers who spout this filth sing from the same choirbook...namely, 66 Questions about the Holocaust by the Institute for Historical Review...Nizkor has a specific set of responses that those of you interested in doing battle with these vermin (Onions do hate vermin...it's a known fact), can utilize here:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/pamphlet.html

May I again plea for a moderator to give some guidance on whether Holocaust denial is an acceptable topic on this forum? Must this site be added to the list of Onion's places of battle?

Mr. Yes...the Onion suggests you go back to playing Vampire. One imagines you are quite good at it.

[yesferatu]

<<One million or two million ain't good enough to cover for their bloodthirsty evil which they commit in excess of a past holocaust? Jews believe an eye for an eye. So I guess it is a holocaust for a holocaust[/quote]

The Onion wonders if this board is moderated. And if so, one wonders if such filth is typically allowed here. The Onion was led here by the discussion of David Duke, and the defense offered of him.>>

Why don't you read my posts about David Duke...see how offended you stay. Just a few threads back. Go on...click on user and look up my posts. Then come back and tell me what filth I am.

<<And now this Yesferatu post is one of the single most offensive posts this onion has ever laid eyes upon, outside of the overt websites such as Stormfront. Is this allowed to stand? Are such comments reflective of the Jeff Wells blog to which it is attached?>>

You are easily offended...no?
Go ahead....look at my particular post about Duke and Stormfront.

<<The Onion is a kosher vegetable, you see. And he is not amused.

Just in case Yesferatu was actually serious....here are two works on the specifics of the Holocaust. Happy Reading, Mr. Yesferatu.>>

Thank you. I will be glad to read it.

<<Destruction of the European Jews by Raul Hilberg (Sigh in relief, Mr. Yes, Hilberg finds the number of murdered Jews closer to 5 million.)>>

So if I admit to less, that disturbs you. Why? I said nothing anti-semitic.

<<http://www.amazon.com/Destruction-European-Jews-Raul-Hilberg/dp/0841909105
(The Onion apologizes for the long link...there seems no way to link text to a URL without listing the entire URL. Most annoying.)>>

Hope this tool helps, Onion: http://tinyurl.com/

<<The Holocaust: A History of the Jews of Europe During the Second World War by Martin Gilbert
http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-History-Europe-During-Second/dp/0805003487

Battling Holocaust revisionists is a vocation of the Onion. As such, this site is helpful:

http://www.nizkor.org/>>

Thanks. "Battling" huh?

<<And since many of the non-thinkers who spout this filth sing from the same choirbook...namely, 66 Questions about the Holocaust by the Institute for Historical Review...>>

Never heard of it. Sorry.

<<Nizkor has a specific set of responses that those of you interested in doing battle with these vermin (Onions do hate vermin...it's a known fact), can utilize here:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/pamphlet.html>>

Himmler used the word "vermin" as well.

<<May I again plea for a moderator to give some guidance on whether Holocaust denial is an acceptable topic on this forum? Must this site be added to the list of Onion's places of battle?>>

How strange. In a democratic forum that allows questions, it attracted you to come here to point to some books that I might read. Which was my initial request. So thanks for the recommendations. In response to my request, you are bringing to my attention something which may prove to me what you want proven to everyone. Yet you are upset that I asked. Which means you would rather I stay in ignorance and not ask questions you feel you can answer. Instead you call for censorship...so with your style of free-speech censorship in place, I would never be allowed to ask, and thus you are denied the opportunity to teach. How absurd this censorship you seek. How self defeating. How undemocratic.

<<Mr. Yes...the Onion suggests you go back to playing Vampire. One imagines you are quite good at it.[/quote]>>

Olmert is a real life vampire. You good with that? How is that Palestinian holocaust going? Working out well?
Numbers are funny. Some say close to 700,000 Iraqis are dead due to the vampire Bush. Vampires will say "30,000 more or less".
What is your revisionism of Palestinian dead?
You actually are offended and call me filth and call for censorship if I am of the opinion the figure was 2-3 million instead of 6 million? One Jew slaughtered for being a Jew is one too many. Do you feel the same way about Palestinians?

Onions make me cry.

[Nordic]

This whole thread needs to be deleted.

The title alone is disgusting and slanderous.

And where the fuck is "Alice the Curious Cunt" who posted it in the first place?

Seriously, this is just filth, this whole thing.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

This whole thread needs to be deleted.

The title alone is disgusting and slanderous.

And where the fuck is "Alice the Curious Cunt" who posted it in the first place?

Seriously, this is just filth, this whole thing.

The usual posts by Alice the Curious who had to reregister as Alice the Kurious are quite humane and insightful. It is unusual for her to pull a pin on a grenade in this manner and I'm sure she will be back with clarifications satisfactory to all.

As I advised upthread, posting in ironic, double-edged, or ambiguous ways only leads to misunderstanding and trouble.

Still, all the data in this loaded topic CAN be discussed with out flaming each other and giving evil joy to COINTELPRO wannabees.

I think I read that the documents on the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty are going to be released next year. Can you imagine both the psy-ops prep for this and the flaming that will commence then?....Oy.

(Mr. Onion, do you know anyone named Veritas? Interesting chap...)

[Mad Onion]

The Onion was responding to this post, Mr. Yes.

One million or two million ain't good enough to cover for their bloodthirsty evil which they commit in excess of a past holocaust? Jews believe an eye for an eye. So I guess it is a holocaust for a holocaust

I said nothing anti-semitic

The Onion's head has exploded so that will be all for this evening.

[judasdisney]

Can anyone refer me to THE one book to read that will convince my mind that the "6 million non-Jews" figure is indeed, irrefutable, written in stone, and undebatable?

Because, of course, Jews were only half of the 12 million total murdered in the Holocaust.

Are the Gypsies, homos, Jehovah's Witnesses, retards, trade unionists, communists & others also part of the Zionist Conspiracy? Clever of them to set things up like that.

When this next Holocaust happens (ironically at the hands of the Zionists like Wolfowitz & Perle & others), which sets us up for the Third Holocaust (in which the Muslims get their revenge on the Fundamentalist Christians who took part this time around), I suggest we preserve all of the corpses in a 40-square-mile display, because every 70 years (the length of Generational Memory) the kids are gonna say "I don't care about the evidence, it never happened, it's not written in stone & undeniable unless I smell the bones firsthand."

They say there's only 2 ways to stop a runaway train: if you can't slow it down, you gotta jump it off the tracks. That's why I'm joining the "It Never Happened" crowd.

I suggest we all sing it together: The Holocaust Never Happened.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

When this next Holocaust happens...

Ex-CIA John Stockwell said back in 1987 that CIA wars have killed over 6 million people.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm

Americas Third World War. How 6 million People Were killed in CIA secret wars against third world countries.

“Trying to summarize this Third World War that the CIA, the U.S. National Security Complex with the military all interwoven in it in many different ways, has been waging, let me just put it this way, the best heads that I coordinate with studying this thing, we count at least minimum figure six million people who’ve been killed in this long 40-year war that we have waged against the people of the Third World.”

“These are not Soviets, we have not been parachuting teams into the Soviet Union to kill and hurt and maim people, especially not since 1954 when they developed actually the capability of dropping atomic weapons on the United States. They aren’t British, French, Swedes, Swiss, Belgians, we don’t do bloody gory operations in the countries of Europe. These are all people of the Third World. They are people of countries like the Congo, Vietnam, Kampuchea, Indonesia, Nicaragua, where conspicuously, they nor their governments, do not have the capability of doing any physical hurt to the United States. They don’t have ICBM’s, they don’t have armies or navies. They could not hurt us if they wanted to. There has rarely been any evidence that they really wanted to. And that, in fact is perhaps the whole point. If they had had ICBMs we probably wouldn’t have done the things to them for fear of retaliation.”

“Cheap shots, if you will, killing people of other countries of the world who cannot defend themselves under the guise of secrecy and under the rubric of national security.”

(John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence gathering post in Vietnam, was the Task-force commander of the CIA’s secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell’s book ‘In Search of Enemies’ is an international best-seller.)

[anotherdrew]

Can anyone refer me to THE one book to read that will convince my mind that the "6 million Jews" figure is indeed, irrefutable, written in stone, and undebatable?

so what if it is six? twenty million Russians died in ww2. Does it matter less because Hitler didn't say out loud he wanted to exterminate Russians? (hell maybe he did). roughly fifty million died world-wide as a result of ww2. Around three million Vietnamese died during our war to "save" them from communism. There is no algebra of slaughter, it's ALL bad.

[slimmouse]

There is no algebra of slaughter, it's ALL bad.

Amen to that.

OK, so Ive just this minute read the alleged Christmas message of Ahminejead on another thread. Besides perpetuating the lie that is the Jesus myth ( and my guess is that he knows it too), I found this little nugget.

If Jesus Christ (peace be upon Him) was present today, he would order an encounter against those who would propagate corruption, obscenity and perversion, and try to nullify and exterminate the merits and the rights of women and diminish their position – a position that virgin Mary (peace be upon Her) – is their role model and sample

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... php?t=9982

If Ahmenijihad did send this message, then Im afraid that as far as humanity is concerned, hes almost as big a part of our problem, as Bush, and all the rest of these atonist fools.

[orz]

I did not call such a book mythical. You assumed I believe there is no such book. A 700 page book could tie all the facts together to conclusively substantiate a figure of 6 million give or take a few hundred thousand. I would think it should have been written by now.

No, I called it mythical... ie that it's a rhetorical device to demand it... reminds me of moon hoax people demanding a hubble photo of the moon lander because somehow all the decades of scientific evidence for the moon landings don't count... It smacks of laziness, they've already made up their mind and can't be bothered to do real research or understand the real history and science, so they just demand a simple 'proof' that can't be delivered and has no real-world reason to be delivered.

[Seamus OBlimey]

Cont...

[orz]

The Onion wonders if this board is moderated.

Jeff usually eventually steps in when we go down the holocaust-denial route...

Oh and anyone who seriously doesnt 'get' the title of this thread needs an irony transplant.

[erosoplier]

Nordic, your post is the only completely filthy thing about this thread, and the only thing that should be deleted.

I don't see what the controversy is - Tutu and Ahmadinejad said what amounts to the same thing, yet Tutu is left alone by the people who accuse Ahmedinejad of having genocidal intentions for saying the very thing in question.

If you don't think Alice is justified in going to the rhetorical extreme of framing Tutu as a man with genocidal intentions, then I don't think you fully appreciate the size of the stakes that are being gambled. Alice is just using words - the plans of the people who want to see Iran "dealt with" involve the killing of many people, and the fucking over of many lives.

This isn't about cognitive dissonance, it's about hypocrisy and contradiction. Anyone who thinks AlicetheKurious is a "filth peddler" is only a step or two away from seeing the truth of the matter - Olmert, Netanyahu, and a plethora of warmongering US and Israeli officials are the "filth peddlers."