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Cosmic Cowbell wrote: Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.
Wow. Just wow. Not only are you constructing a strawman, it's a racist one to boot.

You just showed YOUR true colors, and they're disgusting.

This is one of the most offensive things I've ever read on this site.

Nice going.

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Nordic, and everyone, I think CC was being glib. I am not sticking up for him, but I am weighing in that I can see a turn of phrase when I see one.

This is the point of all this. To get us all jumping at shadows. At RI we tend to take a whole multitude of things that wouldn't even pass the notice of someone in their "street clothes" as serious. We take it seriously and then we all come here and commiserate. Cool, here we are.

Let's just let it go.
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82_28 wrote: At RI we tend to take a whole multitude of things that wouldn't even pass the notice of someone in their "street clothes" as serious. We take it seriously and then we all come here and commiserate.
Ain't it the truth.
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Follow the money, the zealotry, the bigotry, the anti-intellectualism, the puritanical oversimplification of life, the anti-science, the overtly racist, overtly war mongering, self loathing homosexual homophobes, follow the glitzy hairdoos, the highly organized meaningless fluff, follow the zombie conformists and messiahs of personal riches and the saviors of what America once was and could be again no matter that it never was, follow the sewers running with blood to the largest mounds of bodies stacked up in "3rd world" pissholes as if they were on another planet, follow the reactionary reality of a sentient investor crowd whose patriotic passion ends at the compound gates, follow the consciousness of shareholder protection, follow the bones, the dead babies; follow the dead mata haris who's corpses flicker from one place to another, follow the footprints of Jesus inside those fresh laid by stupidosaurs; follow Mickey and Minnie to the megachurch where they are told to vote their values and send their sons to kill, maim, imolulate, poison, rape and torture satanic muslims; follow the flags lowering to half mast; follow the endless blogshit into a void of hopeless collapse; follow the enshrined ideology and vacant promise of a dream that was a euphemism for mind control; follow the beast, martini glass in hand to the photo op; polish your shovels, say your prayers, and ask if you will dig your own grave as they bid 8 cents a head four our souls; follow...follow these instructions that are written in no language any person can understand...and start digging...and perhaps, somewhere down there in the dark, as you follow, as you dig, as you sweat through your own tears, and perhaps you will realize it does not have to be your grave.
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Obama open to discussing ‘broad’ tax cut extension for rich

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/whit ... cuts-rich/

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama is open to the idea of discussing an extension of Bush-era tax cuts for all income levels, the White House said on Thursday.

Two days after congressional elections, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs signaled that Obama might consider a compromise with Republicans that would keep tax breaks not only for the middle-class but for wealthier Americans as well.

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CC seems to have internalized quite well every talking point contained in the memo circulated to useful idiots.

Somebody somewhere is proud of your untiring efforts CC, good job. :jumping: :jumping: :eeyaa :eeyaa :twisted: :twisted: :arrow:
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82_28 wrote:Nordic, and everyone, I think CC was being glib. I am not sticking up for him, but I am weighing in that I can see a turn of phrase when I see one.
Thanks 28. For the most part, that's exactly what I was trying to be. Your rigor is noted. And with that said, I'd like to personally apologize to all the people who self identify as African Americans here at RI (if there are any), especially those who have contributed their own perspective to this particular thread, that found my comment offensive. I truly don't think there are any (what does that say?), but if there are and they found themselves offended, they have my sincerest apology. I intended no true slight.

As for the fake outrage proffered by usernames "Simulist" (go figure) and the self identified "Nordic" (Oh, the irony), I'd simply point out that I think you're both quite transparent.

Bruce, I'd also like to extend a minor apology to you. I don't doubt your heart is in the right place. Continue to be "dazzling", please.
Sounder wrote:Somebody somewhere is proud of your untiring efforts CC, good job.
Your welcome Sounder. Without idiots like me, your intellectual brilliance (which I understand about a quarter of, the rest is just BS to me) would't be able to shine quite as brightly. At least I'm useful to somebody. Better that than useless (see fake people).

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82_28 wrote:Nordic, and everyone, I think CC was being glib. I am not sticking up for him, but I am weighing in that I can see a turn of phrase when I see one...
Not really:
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
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Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.
Your opinions are one thing, but your language is offensive and intolerable.

(Even in a thread entitled "Fuck Obama.")
I'm just saying what you all are implying with the "corporatist tool" label but are simply too chickenshit to say. Or didn't you realize that (which, granted, is certainly a distinct possibility amongst some of the more "challenged" here)?
he actually is conflating criticism of obama with "unconscious" and probably unknown to the "racist" racism.

no wait, he's not conflating anything. why?

well, he's claiming a spidey-sense ability to see through people it seems.

which of course proves he's right in everything he claims about others, right?

CC knows.

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CC, you've humiliated yourself here to the point where I honestly don't understand how you could ever show your (virtual) face here ever again.
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Nordic wrote:CC, you've humiliated yourself here to the point where I honestly don't understand how you could ever show your (virtual) face here ever again.
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Cosmic Cowbell wrote:As for the fake outrage proffered by usernames "Simulist" (go figure) and the self identified "Nordic" (Oh, the irony), I'd simply point out that I think you're both quite transparent.
You're entitled to think whatever you please. It's almost certain that the same amount of penetrating discernment you've consistently displayed in the past is fully operative in your assessments today.
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I can understand how someone would try and defend a politician for particular things s/he is trying to do and argue the benefits of success and the consequences of failure. Defending any politician in general can only lead to a vanity and vexation of the spirit and internecine squalor. If you follow the money it goes through all their hands; maybe more goes through one side's hands than the others, maybe one stack of benjamins has a little less blood on it than the next.
Parties are in the business of crackpot apotheosis of their ideas and, if they have someone with an ounce of charisma, their candidates. Politicians, like pundits, are not compelled to tell the truth or even to have their facts straight.
Unveilling someone's irrationality because of their support for or condemnation of a particular bill or movement....is a shit happens every day kind of thing, but back and forthing over the character and judgement of a person who by nature and by virtue of the very position is compromised and corrupt...one might as well say "you can't say that about Bush, you can't say that about Obama because...because....I like his tie....what's all the fuss?
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Obama Administration Claims Unchecked Authority to Kill Americans Outside Combat Zones

ACLU and CCR Statement

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration today argued before a federal court that it should have unreviewable authority to kill Americans the executive branch has unilaterally determined to pose a threat. Government lawyers made that claim in response to a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) charging that the administration's asserted targeted killing authority violates the Constitution and international law. The U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia heard arguments from both sides today.

"Not only does the administration claim to have sweeping power to target and kill U.S. citizens anywhere in the world, but it makes the extraordinary claim that the court has no role in reviewing that power or the legal standards that apply," said CCR Staff Attorney Pardiss Kebriaei, who presented arguments in the case. "The Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected the government's claim to an unchecked system of global detention, and the district court should similarly reject the administration's claim here to an unchecked system of global targeted killing."

The ACLU and CCR were retained by Nasser Al-Aulaqi to bring a lawsuit in connection with the government's decision to authorize the targeted killing of his son, U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Aulaqi. The lawsuit asks the court to rule that, outside the context of armed conflict, the government can carry out the targeted killing of an American citizen only as a last resort to address an imminent threat to life or physical safety. The lawsuit also asks the court to order the government to disclose the legal standard it uses to place U.S. citizens on government kill lists.

"If the Constitution means anything, it surely means that the president does not have unreviewable authority to summarily execute any American whom he concludes is an enemy of the state," said Jameel Jaffer, Deputy Legal Director of the ACLU, who presented arguments in the case. "It's the government's responsibility to protect the nation from terrorist attacks, but the courts have a crucial role to play in ensuring that counterterrorism policies are consistent with the Constitution."

The government filed a brief in the case in September, claiming that the executive's targeted killing authority is a "political question" that should not be subject to judicial review. The government also asserted the "state secrets" privilege, contending that the case should be dismissed to avoid the disclosure of sensitive information.

The lawsuit was filed against CIA Director Leon Panetta, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and President Barrack Obama in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Attorneys on the case are Jaffer, Ben Wizner, Jonathan Manes and Jennifer Turner of the ACLU; Kebriaei, Maria LaHood and Bill Quigley of CCR; and Arthur B. Spitzer of the ACLU of the Nation's Capital. Co-counsel in Yemen is Mohammed Allawo of the Allawo Law Firm and the National Organization for Defending Human Rights (HOOD).

For more information on the case, including fact sheets and legal papers, visit: www.aclu.org/targetedkillings and www.ccrjustice.org/targetedkillings
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Of the many criticisms/disappointments one could levy against this administration there is none more deserving than the behavior (and lack thereof) of the Justice Department and Eric Holder (somewhat rare in that although he is a political animal he is really not a politician and is almost invisible). One of the fellahs brought in to make sure none of the hopechange got out of hand and lead to any subpoenas of the previous footmen or any revearsals of policy that would open up the pandora's box of murder, torture, and massacre that this bunch has fallen in love with as much as the last.

It strangles the imagination to realize that if he so chose, he himself could walk up behing you as you read these words, put a pill through your skull, and walk away without a worry; as long as you are declared an enemy combatant. But why bother getting your own hands dirty when you got the Stryker brigade, the CIA and Blackwater?
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The Consul wrote:Of the many criticisms/disappointments one could levy against this administration there is none more deserving than the behavior (and lack thereof) of the Justice Department and Eric Holder (somewhat rare in that although he is a political animal he is really not a politician and is almost invisible). One of the fellahs brought in to make sure none of the hopechange got out of hand and lead to any subpoenas of the previous footmen or any revearsals of policy that would open up the pandora's box of murder, torture, and massacre that this bunch has fallen in love with as much as the last.

It strangles the imagination to realize that if he so chose, he himself could walk up behing you as you read these words, put a pill through your skull, and walk away without a worry; as long as you are declared an enemy combatant. But why bother getting your own hands dirty when you got the Stryker brigade, the CIA and Blackwater?
the radio station i listen to refers to him as "dick holder"
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