THE MEN WHO KILLED PRESIDENT KENNEDY

[chump]

Oh! Now I'm insulting "the research community". I don't think so. Come on man! I didn't mean to insult anybody. Not even you! Really!

How old were you when that avatar picture was taken? Was it recently? That picture cracks me up. It reminds me of a high school party I went to back in the seventies, on the 40th floor of a high rise. There was a kid there, pounding beers, wearing an oversized helmut just like that, doing pullups on the outside of the balcony rail, smoking a cigarette. I'll never forget it.

Like I said before, my view is not set in stone. At this time, I personally have more reason to believe the Party story is true than not. Can you blame me? At the very least, it's a well established myth. MDB is not the only source! If you had so much as watched the video you would have known that. There was also a maid, and a driver who said Hoover didn't tip.

Maybe you, or someone, could throw in just a wee bit more so I'll know what you're talking about.

Thanks.

[fruhmenschen]

Retired FBI agent speaking about JFK’s assassination

COPLEY — Copley High School (CHS), the CHS Key Club and Copley-Fairlawn Kiwanis Club will sponsor a program titled “Investigating the John F. Kennedy Assassination.”

The program will take place Nov. 22 in the CHS auditorium. Refreshments will be available at 6 p.m., and the presentation will begin at 6:30 p.m. Nov. 22 is the 47th anniversary of Kennedy’s assassination.Retired FBI Special Agent Don Adams will be the speaker. Adams contends Lee Harvey Oswald is not the man who shot Kennedy in Dallas in 1963.


For more information, call 330-664-4823. see link for full story
http://www.akron.com/akron-ohio-educati ... ?aID=10808

No offense to you fruh, but I can't let this pass.... Don Adams? You've got to be kidding.


are you referencing the actor Don Adams from the TV show GET SMART?


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[seemslikeadream]

Jesse Venture'a JFK show is on tonight Tru-TV

[fruhmenschen]

FOIA RESOURCE

http://thefoiablog.typepad.com/the_foia_blog/

[streeb]

Chump wrote:

Oh! Now I'm insulting "the research community". I don't think so. Come on man! I didn't mean to insult anybody. Not even you! Really! Like I said before, my view is not set in stone. At this time, I personally have more reason to believe the Party story is true than not. Can you blame me? At the very least, it's a well established myth. MDB is not the only source! If you had so much as watched the video you would have known that. There was also a maid, and a driver who said Hoover didn't tip.

Maybe you, or someone, could throw in just a wee bit more so I'll know what you're talking about.

As you say, Chump, it’s myth. It’s not taken seriously in state-of-the-art assassination research. You won’t find it in the painstakingly detailed and indispensible work of a John Newman or a Jim Douglass. And since the best researchers are uniformly ignored in the mainstream, I think it aids nobody’s cause to further drown out their sober work with fantastical tales of comic book super-evil that aren’t traceable beyond the word of (okay, three) suspect witnesses and the disreputable blowhards who pimp their story. That’s what I mean by “insulting”. Sorry if I sounded hysterical. But I mean, if your interest is sincere, then you owe it to yourself to dig deeper. And if you want my personal opinion on the Men Who Killed Kennedy, rather than Nigel Turner's, I'd offer James Angleton as at least one of the guilty men, per Newman's Oswald and the CIA.

How old were you when that avatar picture was taken? Was it recently? That picture cracks me up. It reminds me of a high school party I went to back in the seventies, on the 40th floor of a high rise. There was a kid there, pounding beers, wearing an oversized helmut just like that, doing pullups on the outside of the balcony rail, smoking a cigarette. I'll never forget it.

I think I was probably still learning to walk when that pic was taken. Sounds like a great party, but I'm afraid I'm going to need more than one or two anecdotal sources before I believe you were really there

[82_28]

Will everybody please get along? We already know who killed Kennedy. It doesn't matter who did it, but that it happened. That's what killed Kennedy. That it even happened at all is what killed him. This is the message. There is no point in arguing over the errata and chaff. We know how it went down because it has become a MEME and not something occasionally chatted about or brought up in Hollywood blockbusters back before the popular use of the Internet arose.

We know how it went down -- it's already there in front of us and has been since the day it happened. Yet so many are searching for the culprit, fixating on the obvious lies and using Latin terms like "Qui Bono". The assassinations of the Kennedys is happening every single day with each and every death and injustice.

See, and I'm just going HYPOTHETICALLY "deep" here, some of us don't even know that Kennedy even existed. He came before my time.

If Penrose is now postulating a new theory as to the origin of the universe, which may soon be taken seriously by the technocratic elite, then it is not out of the question that anything that came before us ever happened at all. I wasn't alive for the Kennedy shit, nor was I alive for any of the moon landings. I've always been fascinated with both, but can I really fucking sure that all of it wasn't a psyop? Fuck no! But I can say this for sure, here I am.

We don't even fucking know if the people we communicate with here and elsewhere aren't just fucking simulacras. But this much we know, we know what we know at any given moment. We recognize the needs of others, ourselves, plants, animals, karmic fluid etc. This recognition outside of the Empirically sanctioned language is our clue. When you commune with nature, you see this.

In some ways this is why I smoke tobacco. It bothers EVERYBODY anymore. But it used to not. Here is a hint as to how we are manipulated. Our manipulators are being manipulated to such degrees in exponential proportions than probably any of us now having this online conversation. Perhaps there is some entity that is attempting to protect us.

And indeed it is. It is humanity free of ego. It is the homoplasmate.

Sure, retarded. 82_28 brings up PKD again, sweet bros and sisses.

But, I'm telling you.

One time I got real stoned and all I saw were Ichtuses in the reflections of any light on glass as I was walking around the city. There is something there. It is there. And it is in all of us. We have been occluded from our true nature and that is is that it is shared. But nobody "shares" it. It is perception and it comes from nonverbal language. Perception can be used for or against us. Our language fucks it all up -- yet it is "all we have". The doublebind.

The only reason I have chosen to be so expressive of shit ain't motherfucking because I wanted to use language. But it's because I am attempting to interface with feelings in the best tool I have at my disposal.

So, basically, getting back on topic -- think of the motherfucking language that assassinated JFK, RFK, MLK, X. The language used was the occluded nature of the plots which are based within the language used. We mistake language as feelings. This is why poetry is important -- even though it bores me. Say or write the word "motherfuckin'" and I perk right the fuck up. Add any kind of word to music and it also effects me.

Anyways, I'm going off on tangets now and I would love to fuck around with them further. But

The Empire Never Ended

[82_28]

Will everybody please get along? We already know who killed Kennedy. It doesn't matter who did it, but that it happened. That's what killed Kennedy. That it even happened at all is what killed him. This is the message. There is no point in arguing over the errata and chaff. We know how it went down because it has become a MEME and not something occasionally chatted about or brought up in Hollywood blockbusters back before the popular use of the Internet arose.

We know how it went down -- it's already there in front of us and has been since the day it happened. Yet so many are searching for the culprit, fixating on the obvious lies and using Latin terms like "Qui Bono". The assassinations of the Kennedys is happening every single day with each and every death and injustice.

See, and I'm just going HYPOTHETICALLY "deep" here, some of us don't even know that Kennedy even existed. He came before my time.

If Penrose is now postulating a new theory as to the origin of the universe, which may soon be taken seriously by the technocratic elite, then it is not out of the question that anything that came before us ever happened at all. I wasn't alive for the Kennedy shit, nor was I alive for any of the moon landings. I've always been fascinated with both, but can I really fucking sure that all of it wasn't a psyop? Fuck no! But I can say this for sure, here I am.

We don't even fucking know if the people we communicate with here and elsewhere aren't just fucking simulacras. But this much we know, we know what we know at any given moment. We recognize the needs of others, ourselves, plants, animals, karmic fluid etc. This recognition outside of the Empirically sanctioned language is our clue. When you commune with nature, you see this.

In some ways this is why I smoke tobacco. It bothers EVERYBODY anymore. But it used to not. Here is a hint as to how we are manipulated. Our manipulators are being manipulated to such degrees in exponential proportions than probably any of us now having this online conversation. Perhaps there is some entity that is attempting to protect us.

And indeed it is. It is humanity free of ego. It is the homoplasmate.

Sure, retarded. 82_28 brings up PKD again, sweet bros and sisses.

But, I'm telling you.

One time I got real stoned and all I saw were Ichtuses in the reflections of any light on glass as I was walking around the city. There is something there. It is there. And it is in all of us. We have been occluded from our true nature and that is is that it is shared. But nobody "shares" it. It is perception and it comes from nonverbal language. Perception can be used for or against us. Our language fucks it all up -- yet it is "all we have". The doublebind.

The only reason I have chosen to be so expressive of shit ain't motherfucking because I wanted to use language. But it's because I am attempting to interface with feelings in the best tool I have at my disposal. And really, truly honestly it comes from concern for all motherfucking souls

So, basically, getting back on topic -- think of the motherfucking language that assassinated JFK, RFK, MLK, X. The language used was the occluded nature of the plots which are based within the language used used to temporarily describe it. We mistake language as feelings. This is why poetry is important -- even though it bores me. Say or write the word "motherfuckin'" and I perk right the fuck up. Add any kind of word to music and it also effects me.

Anyways, I'm going off on tangets now and I would love to fuck around with them further. But

The Empire Never Ended

[82_28]

Sorry for the double post. I can't delete the first one, but the second one is the one I meant to post.

But anyhow, good people, good souls only simulate their egos in order to subsist. I got a lot of motherfuckers paid today, 50 or 60 people, by simulating an ego. This isn't "progress" until all souls go on to take their Earthly lives "seriously". I had to simulate an ego. People are calling my ass a hero. My heroicness is but a simulation. Also, Twitter helped.

No. I may be bragging about it, but the fucking larger "lesson" was that people are still reachable. We must reach one another in kind.

[MinM]

even the limo driver turning around with a silenced pistol

I am embarrassed to admit that I believed this for a while. I truly thought I could see it on the Z film.

20 minutes into this clip...

Jim DiEugenio explains how Bill Cooper purposely used a poor quality, grainy copy of the Zapruder film to fool people into believing that it was a gun in the drivers hand.

Here's a look at that crappy piece of video Cooper used as evidence of a gun...

To be fair to Cooper he does produce, as promised and primed for a few hours, a better quality video in part 4. Although even in that it seems to have a subliminal cut of what appears to be Cyril Wecht in it.

More interesting to me are the circumstances surrounding William Cooper's death:

[justdrew]

<...> a 9 part series called THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
The GUILTY MEN was pulled off the air even though it experienced record sales and the History Channel refuses to sell any more copies.

well, I just pulled all nine parts (3 of which apparently are considered to have been censored, not just #9 'the guilty men') from our mini version of the akashic records and will check it out.

.

has anyone ever asked Bill Moyers about the Katzenbach Memo?

[fruhmenschen]

<...> a 9 part series called THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
The GUILTY MEN was pulled off the air even though it experienced record sales and the History Channel refuses to sell any more copies.

well, I just pulled all nine parts (3 of which apparently are considered to have been censored, not just #9 'the guilty men') from our mini version of the akashic records and will check it out.

.

has anyone ever asked Bill Moyers about the Katzenbach Memo?

On several occasions when talking with Ed Tatro he says Bill Moyers is one of them.

[fruhmenschen]

The American Oligarchy, Civil Rights and the Murder of Martin Luther King
The ‘Foundations’ of Social Control

by Andrew Gavin Marshall


Global Research, November 30, 2010

see link for full story
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22168

Civil Rights and Social Control



As the American civil rights movement emerged in the 1950s, the established American oligarchy, in all its various forms and avenues of influence, set in motion simultaneous attempts to control the evolution of the movement, in order to both divide the movement and its leaders against each other, and also to control its direction. The Civil Rights Movement arose as an independent and people-driven movement in a struggle for black rights in America. In this, the movement presented a great threat to the establishment oligarchy, as historically the subjugation of black people within western society was not merely a result of western policies, but lies at the very foundations and bedrock of western ‘civilization’, politically, socially, and economically. Thus, challenging the segregation of race inevitably challenges the entire political, economic and social system.



The National Security State and its various apparatus, such as the CIA, FBI, police and military structures, saw the Civil Rights Movement as a threat to the status quo (as it was), and treated it as an ‘enemy of the state’. The apparatus of the National Security State were spying, infiltrating and disrupting the civil rights movement, and were ultimately planning for its elimination. Simultaneously, the major philanthropic foundations of America’s richest families and billionaire elites (whose imperial interests are served through the National Security State), moved in to actively fund the Civil Rights Movement, so as to control its progress and make it ‘safe for Capitalism.’ The idea was to prevent the Civil Rights Movement from remaining an organic people-driven movement and taking its natural course, which falls outside the false boundary of the social construct of race, and would seek to unite all oppressed and impoverished people of the world in one struggle against the system, itself. The role of the billionaire philanthropies was to ensure that the ‘Civil Rights Movement’ remained race-based, and that it became about black people being absorbed into and rising within the system, instead of fighting against it. It was about financially co-opting the movement to suit the interests of the ruling oligarchy.

[fruhmenschen]

http://politicalassassinations.com/

[fruhmenschen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px-7IRJp ... r_embedded

JFK and his Secret Service Detail: Preview of Mark Lane's new film featuring Abraham Bolden

[justdrew]

I wonder what people think of the theory/allegations about there being a pro-Kennedy team operating in Dallas that day? (a team other than LHO that is, if one accepted the idea that he was a mole into the right-wing plot who got framed)