Circumcision ban a step closer to the ballot

[barracuda]

Seems as I get older the foreskin starts to come back a bit on its own.


that's an illusion. in reality your dick is just getting smaller.

http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/_sea ... shwagandha


Time tested by yours truly. Two teaspoons a day 'will' put some pep back in your step. I bought ten pounds while the getting is still good and put it in Mason Jars.

You put it into Mason Jars?? Damn, that shit must really work.

[Stephen Morgan]

Circumcision came in the provide work for doctors and to discourage masturbation.

I never knew that. Wonder how circumcision is supposed to discourage it? Never hindered me as a young lad, guess I didn't get the memo.

I believe Americans are generally thought to masturbate using artificial lubrication instead. Obviously not all medical procedures are entirely successful. Best laid plans of mice and men.

[eyeno]

Seems as I get older the foreskin starts to come back a bit on its own.


that's an illusion. in reality your dick is just getting smaller.

http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/_sea ... shwagandha


Time tested by yours truly. Two teaspoons a day 'will' put some pep back in your step. I bought ten pounds while the getting is still good and put it in Mason Jars.

You put it into Mason Jars?? Damn, that shit must really work.

Put it in Mason Jars to keep it fresh. Stored in Mason Jars it should keep for many many years. And yes it does work. You will notice that your sperm count may double or triple. Also if you mix it with some sort of fat and a little black pepper it increases absorption. Clarified butter is recommended by people in India. I mix it with virgin coconut oil sometimes to increase the absorption.

[brainpanhandler]

That's the same thing that keeps female circumcision going in east Africa. The girls want to be like the other girls, the mothers want their children to be like them, the women who do the deed want to keep the tradition going, the local boys think that's how their wives ought to be and pretty much everyone thinks it's good for the girls themselves too. Health, hygiene, the same sort of ideas put forward to defend the practice of male circumcision today.

It is my understanding that one of the main reasons female circumcision is performed is to either partially or completely remove the clitoris so as to reduce the pleasure of sex and increase the chances of girls staying chaste for their future husbands. Fundie islamists distort the Koran to justify the procedure, which is still widespread despite being made largely illegal.

[WakeUpAndLive]

Put it in Mason Jars to keep it fresh. Stored in Mason Jars it should keep for many many years. And yes it does work. You will notice that your sperm count may double or triple. Also if you mix it with some sort of fat and a little black pepper it increases absorption. Clarified butter is recommended by people in India. I mix it with virgin coconut oil sometimes to increase the absorption.

Have you considered using Miron Violet Glass Jars??

http://www.luminanti.com/mironvioletglass.html

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Storage-test-with-chives

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Storage-test-with-tomatoes

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Functionality

[Stephen Morgan]

That's the same thing that keeps female circumcision going in east Africa. The girls want to be like the other girls, the mothers want their children to be like them, the women who do the deed want to keep the tradition going, the local boys think that's how their wives ought to be and pretty much everyone thinks it's good for the girls themselves too. Health, hygiene, the same sort of ideas put forward to defend the practice of male circumcision today.

It is my understanding that one of the main reasons female circumcision is performed is to either partially or completely remove the clitoris so as to reduce the pleasure of sex and increase the chances of girls staying chaste for their future husbands. Fundie islamists distort the Koran to justify the procedure, which is still widespread despite being made largely illegal.

Well that won't work. I mean, how is the woman meant to know whether sex is less pleasurable or not if she doesn't have it? A wholly impractical course of action.

'FGM is associated with cultural ideals of femininity and modesty, which include the notion that girls are “clean” and "beautiful" after removal of body parts that are considered "male" or "unclean"'

The hatred of the masculine rears its ugly head again. Sigh. Of course misandry can negatively effect women too, as we see here.

[eyeno]

Put it in Mason Jars to keep it fresh. Stored in Mason Jars it should keep for many many years. And yes it does work. You will notice that your sperm count may double or triple. Also if you mix it with some sort of fat and a little black pepper it increases absorption. Clarified butter is recommended by people in India. I mix it with virgin coconut oil sometimes to increase the absorption.

Have you considered using Miron Violet Glass Jars??

http://www.luminanti.com/mironvioletglass.html

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Storage-test-with-chives

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Storage-test-with-tomatoes

http://www.miron-glas.com/en/Functionality

I am familiar with the concept of colored jars to keep things fresh but I did not know about the benefits of Miron Violet, so thank you very much for conveying that information to me. I have been storing it in a dark cabinet to keep the light away from it, and storing it at room temperature.

[Burnt Hill]

Very interesting eyeno. I have never heard of Ashwaghanda before.
From Aryuvedic Healing-
"confers immune system protection
combats the effects of stress
improves learning, memory, and reaction time
reduces anxiety and depression without causing drowsiness
stabilizes blood sugar
lowers cholesterol
reduces brain-cell degeneration
contains anti-malarial properties
offers anti-inflammatory benefits".

Considered an "adaptogen", as is Ginseng, though not related.
Something that "cures what ails you".
Might give this a try.

[eyeno]

Very interesting eyeno. I have never heard of Ashwaghanda before.
From Aryuvedic Healing-
"confers immune system protection
combats the effects of stress
improves learning, memory, and reaction time
reduces anxiety and depression without causing drowsiness
stabilizes blood sugar
lowers cholesterol
reduces brain-cell degeneration
contains anti-malarial properties
offers anti-inflammatory benefits".

Considered an "adaptogen", as is Ginseng, though not related.
Something that "cures what ails you".
Might give this a try.

Yeppers good stuff. I have been taking it for a long time. I did not notice any sudden miraculous benefits from it, but it is not supposed to be that sort of medicine. The main short term quick benefit that I did notice was in the libido sperm count area.

[Nordic]

fennel. a fresh bulb of fennel. cook it up, mix it in with a dish or whatever. look out. or maybe warn your s.o. to look out.

[AlicetheKurious]

I gave birth here in Egypt via caesarean section under full anesthesia. Afterward, back in the hospital room, still groggy, I managed to croak out to the doctors, my husband and the nurses standing around my bed that I don't want any circumcision. They all got these puzzled smiles on their faces, before one of the doctors said, "Um, it's already done." He patiently explained to me that it was best for hygienic and health reasons and that they do it at the same time they cut the umbilical cord because that way it's over quickly and the baby doesn't feel any pain. I looked at them, and they looked at me, and that was that.

Frankly, I'm not sure why I didn't want my boys to be circumcised, I don't think it's made any difference either way -- maybe it IS more hygienic, etc. I doubt it was any more traumatic than having the umbilical cord cut, then or afterward. My boys talk to me about EVERYTHING and they've never mentioned this, it hasn't been an issue in any way.

Female circumcision is a totally different issue: it's an ancient African custom and most cultures that practice it claim that it guarantees chastity before (and after) marriage. It's a bloody, traumatic and painful assault against female children, and it has a major impact on them for the rest of their lives. Even if it doesn't kill them or leave them with life-long health problems and pain.

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new tradition of surgically removing the hymen of female children at birth (fat chance!). This is something I have thought about, and wondered why God would even put it there, like the "safety seal" they put on medicine bottles to guarantee they haven't been tampered with. It just doesn't fit my concept of God, but objectively speaking, if one were to accept is as evidence, it does corroborate the view of most traditional religions that the Creator is very patriarchal indeed. That is, unless that little barrier has some other purpose or significance that I can't figure out.

[Stephen Morgan]

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new tradition of surgically removing the hymen of female children at birth (fat chance!). This is something I have thought about, and wondered why God would even put it there, like the "safety seal" they put on medicine bottles to guarantee they haven't been tampered with. It just doesn't fit my concept of God, but objectively speaking, if one were to accept is as evidence, it does corroborate the view of most traditional religions that the Creator is very patriarchal indeed. That is, unless that little barrier has some other purpose or significance that I can't figure out.

It causes bloodshed, which is a necessary part of solemnising a covenant, such as marriage, in many ritual-based legal systems. So I've heard.

Of course they aren't just found in humans. Females of many other species, some whales for example, have them. Exact function, I don't know.

[Burnt Hill]

Wait a minute here Alice -

I doubt it was any more traumatic than having the umbilical cord cut, then or afterward.

Comparing the umbilical cord to the foreskin?
The umbilical cord has no pain nerve endings, if left alone it will wither and fall off, it is not a part of your body.
The foreskin is extremely dense in nerve endings, and cutting it off has been shown to cause extreme pain in newborns.
Would you make the same analogy with a womans labia?

[Burnt Hill]

And from personal experience, mine has been left alone for great lengths of time,
neither withered nor fallen off.

[Canadian_watcher]

I doubt it was any more traumatic than having the umbilical cord cut, then or afterward. My boys talk to me about EVERYTHING and they've never mentioned this, it hasn't been an issue in any way.

-- I agree with Burnt Hill on the umbilical cord vs foreskin issue.
-- you boys don't consciously remember the cut, but that doesn't mean it isn't buried in their psyches as a brutal 'welcome' into the world. I'm not trying to guilt-trip or anything but we just don't know what psychological damage it does to an infant to be made to suffer excruciating pain within hours or days of being born.

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new tradition of surgically removing the hymen of female children at birth (fat chance!). This is something I have thought about, and wondered why God would even put it there, like the "safety seal" they put on medicine bottles to guarantee they haven't been tampered with. It just doesn't fit my concept of God, but objectively speaking, if one were to accept is as evidence, it does corroborate the view of most traditional religions that the Creator is very patriarchal indeed. That is, unless that little barrier has some other purpose or significance that I can't figure out.

It must have been 'put there' for a reason - nature is perfect. Barrier to infection? Either way, why do any surgery on children if you don't have to??