TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[Iamwhomiam]

Then why the fuck did you mention that it was interesting? You can't even politely explain yourself!

I wrote I wasn't interested in arguing with you, and I'm not. But you have not once answered any question I have politely asked you. Why?

It is impossible to engage in a meaningful discussion with you, though I try my best.

Why any would any adult posting here say they were interested in something they posted, but refuse to say what it was they found interesting?

That's fucking bizarre! On a discussion board, no less!

[seemslikeadream]

here's what a vote for Trump gets ya

Republican platform labels pornography 'a public health crisis'

GOP Platform Proposes To Get Rid Of National Parks And National Forests

Draft platform includes language that disavows the rights of women, same-sex couples, trans people, Palestinians, immigrants, and more.

The Porn Crisis, Gay Conversion Therapy, and Other Notable Elements of the GOP Platform


1. Pornography is a “public health crisis”
2. Marriage should still be between a man and woman
3. Children raised in “traditional” homes are “healthier”
4. Parents can force their LGBT children to undergo “conversion therapy”
5. Education includes “a good understanding of the Bible”
6. Coal is a “clean” form of energy

[backtoiam]

here's what a vote for Trump gets ya

Republican platform labels pornography 'a public health crisis'

GOP Platform Proposes To Get Rid Of National Parks And National Forests

Draft platform includes language that disavows the rights of women, same-sex couples, trans people, Palestinians, immigrants, and more.

The Porn Crisis, Gay Conversion Therapy, and Other Notable Elements of the GOP Platform


1. Pornography is a “public health crisis”
2. Marriage should still be between a man and woman
3. Children raised in “traditional” homes are “healthier”
4. Parents can force their LGBT children to undergo “conversion therapy”
5. Education includes “a good understanding of the Bible”
6. Coal is a “clean” form of energy

Trump will be as big a disaster as Hillary. It does not matter what comes out of his mouth he will not be allowed to do it anyway. He will do as he is told like every other president. All he is doing is adding to the racial tension.

[82_28]

Watch this. I just saw it on 60 Minutes. It's a little long.



Pence is like a whipped dog and good god I can't wait for at least Trump to lose to someone anyone -- I won't be voting for Clinton -- I'm going Stein. If you watch it, see if you can find any answer to any question at all. Thank god Colbert and Stewart are teaming up to cover this shit all week.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Why any would any adult posting here say they were interested in something they posted, but refuse to say what it was they found interesting?

That's fucking bizarre! On a discussion board, no less!

If this was Yahoo Answers, I'd be more inclined to agree.

Here, though, willful obscurity and flagrant gamification have a long-standing tradition. Let's all dial it back about 20%.

[SonicG]

Then why the fuck did you mention that it was interesting? You can't even politely explain yourself!

I wrote I wasn't interested in arguing with you, and I'm not. But you have not once answered any question I have politely asked you. Why?

It is impossible to engage in a meaningful discussion with you, though I try my best.

Why any would any adult posting here say they were interested in something they posted, but refuse to say what it was they found interesting?

That's fucking bizarre! On a discussion board, no less!

He's a kind of concern troll. I'd highly suggest putting him (BTIA) on ignore to not bog threads down with his Breitbart bs. Glad to know a mod here thinks popups are the worst thing about that site...

[slimmouse]

Do you question the biases of any anti-Trump posters on the board? How about when slimmouse posts criticism of Trump's son-in-law's statement about him not being racist, but doesn't post the statement itself?

Im getting old, and forget what I post quite a lot. Can you show me where I did that ?

[Freitag]

Do you question the biases of any anti-Trump posters on the board? How about when slimmouse posts criticism of Trump's son-in-law's statement about him not being racist, but doesn't post the statement itself?

Im getting old, and forget what I post quite a lot. Can you show me where I did that ?

I think I confused you with SLAD - sorry about that. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, SLAD has great taste in esoteric topics.) Anyway it's not a big deal, that's my whole point. I didn't realize anyone was trying to hide their biases around here. The angles each person takes are fairly obvious. I didn't realize I was obligated to be fair and balanced.

[backtoiam]

Iamwhomiam

"Then why the fuck did you mention that it was interesting? You can't even politely explain yourself!

I wrote I wasn't interested in arguing with you, and I'm not, But you have not once answered any question I have politely asked you. Why?

It is impossible to engage in a meaningful discussion with you, though I try my best.

Why any would any adult posting here say they were interested in something they posted, but refuse to say what it was they found interesting?

That's fucking bizarre! On a discussion board, no less!

I just didn't want to talk to to you.

Sonicg
He's a kind of concern troll. I'd highly suggest putting him (BTIA) on ignore to not bog threads down with his Breitbart bs. Glad to know a mod here thinks popups are the worst thing about that site...

I just associated Trump with one of the most successful serial killers of all time, I didn't do him any favors with that.

backtoiam
Trump will be as big a disaster as Hillary. It does not matter what comes out of his mouth he will not be allowed to do it anyway. He will do as he is told like every other president. All he is doing is adding to the racial tension.

Did you miss the above?

[seemslikeadream]

Do you question the biases of any anti-Trump posters on the board? How about when slimmouse posts criticism of Trump's son-in-law's statement about him not being racist, but doesn't post the statement itself?

Im getting old, and forget what I post quite a lot. Can you show me where I did that ?

I think I confused you with SLAD - sorry about that. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, SLAD has great taste in esoteric topics.) Anyway it's not a big deal, that's my whole point. I didn't realize anyone was trying to hide their biases around here. The angles each person takes are fairly obvious. I didn't realize I was obligated to be fair and balanced.

it's not really bias ...it's control over my body I'm concerned with

men having control of my body is like soooooooo........ 1960's

I think I confused you with SLAD

maybe you did...if someone is voting for Trump...they are also voting for this guy...I'm not down with people who want poor women to go back to using wire hangers

esoteric's fine but real life is ...well real life and my daughters and granddaughter live in it...and I am so very old fashioned ...love having control of my own body and I think my daughters should too

Mike Pence Has Led a Crusade Against Abortion Access and LGBT Rights

and if you don't understand this read the War on Women thread

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... r+on+women


did I mention Trump and Pence are pieces of shit?

A Rude Review of Mike Pence
Over the years, the Rude Pundit has made no bones about what a dickish, Jesus-fellating piece of shit Indiana governor and now vice-presidential nominee Mike Pence has been in his career. See, he was this blogger's Congress member for a brief, horrible period when the Rude Pundit was slowly watching his life seep away in that hellhole of flat land, cold winds, and backwards ass people, Indiana. So he has met Pence, spoken briefly to him, looked into those beady, sleepy eyes and realized, "Holy fuckass, this guy is so fuckin' dumb that he could hammer a nail in with his head and it wouldn't do any damage." No wonder Donald Trump chose him (although, hilariously, it looks like Trump was trying to back out of it at the last minute, possibly realizing that touring the nation with an tight-assed evangelical Christian with the personality of a corn-speckled turd wouldn't be a nonstop party).

So let's look at some of the things this here blog has said about Pence, as well as some of the dumb shit that dumbshit has said:

Back in 2009, while in Congress (where he squatted and dumped until 2013), Pence was ahead of the curve in trying to defund Planned Parenthood, as he wrote in a mighty opinion piece for nutzoid conservative port-a-potty, Townhall. Scribbled the Rude Pundit: "By Pence's 'logic' (if by 'logic,' you mean, 'a strange amalgam of religious paranoia and dubious fiscal reasoning by a man who shoves corncobs up his own ass because he's the one Republican desperately trying to avoid fucking another man or woman'), as he writes, his amendment to an appropriations bill 'would close the loophole that has forced millions of pro-life Americans to subsidize the nation's leading abortion provider, sustaining and underwriting the destruction of innocent human life that has been carried out on a massive scale by Planned Parenthood.'

"You got that, right? We wouldn't want to offend the pro-life Americans by providing money to an organization that does more to actually prevent abortions than every bullshit abstinence program everywhere. No, no, we wouldn't want Planned Parenthood to be there to mop up for the utter failure of conservative sex education plans to actually educate about sex."

And who can forget Pence's weird-ass sexualizing of his faith, enthusing about his love of Jesus and young men in rapey-stalker language at the Value Voters Summit:

"In his speech, Representative Mike Pence of Indiana was more or less describing how much he wanted to blow Christ: '[N]othing can compare to the inexpressible joy I felt on a night in April in 1978 when I gave my life to Jesus Christ.' And that Jesus is a demanding Master to his little submissives: 'Well, like millions of Americans, I've been spending some time on my knees lately.'

"Most creepy was Pence's fetishization of America's youth, a masturbatory need so great that he had to rush back home to indulge it: 'I got on the plane and flew home to Indiana, went out to the Henry Country Fairgrounds for a Boy Scout Jamboree on a cold Saturday morning just about a year ago, and I'll never forget it. You know the Boy Scout Jamboree situation. A bunch of little boys with their hair tousled, ties pulled to the side, one shirt tail out, standing in a row.' The Rude Pundit doesn't know about you, but he probably couldn't describe a row of scouts in such...loving detail."

Or maybe we can look fondly back to when he declared that the Affordable Care Act was antithetical to the ideals of the American Revolution, that it would essentially make Thomas Jefferson puke? Pence even offered up his cancer-ridden cousin as a sacrificial lamb: "Pence told a story about his cousin who has cancer. 'He's awaiting insurance approval for an experimental treatment because his system can no longer tolerate the long regimen of chemo,' Pence said. But Cuz, who, you know, has insurance, ain't a poster child for reform. Oh, no. In fact, he's against reform. He wrote to Pence, 'f this was a government bureaucracy, I have no faith that it would be processed in a timely manner and even then, if it would be approved. The idea of a public health care option, as a chronic cancer patient, scares the living hell out of me.'"

Of course, as governor, Pence ended up taking the Medicaid expansion money for his state, but only by being a complete conservative cockknob about it.

And, in 2010, in a preview of the kind of leadership we could expect from Veep Pence, he set the tone for the House of Representatives in telling President Obama and his agenda to go fuck itself: "Here's Indiana's Mike Pence (Campaign slogan: 'I'm a motherfucker, but at least I'm honest about being a motherfucker') on what will happen if his party wins the House: 'Look, the time to go along and get along is over...Look, there will be no compromise on stopping runaway spending, deficits and debt. There will be no compromise on repealing Obamacare. There will be no compromise on stopping Democrats from growing government and raising taxes. And if I haven’t been clear enough yet, let me say again: No compromise.'"

Yes, yes, yes, Mike Pence, who, at the time, was harboring illusions that he might be president hisself one day, was one of the people responsible for the congressional fuckery that stalled virtually any legislation in the House.

As governor, he has been responsible for the idiotic and unconstitutional religious freedom bill (aka "That Thing For Homophobic Bakers") and the savagely anti-woman anti-choice laws that have left at least one woman who had a miscarriage imprisoned. A hateful, myopic, self-righteous asshole, this Pence.

In other words, unlike Trump, he's what we now refer to as a "traditional Republican."

[Belligerent Savant]

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The same can be said of any carbon-based talking blob put forth as a representative of either major party (that they are pieces of shit).
It's a given. It's inherent in their nature as candidates/politicians for either major party.
They are vile lying creatures. They are also fully beholden disciples of greed and power, willing and eager absorbers of the Will of the non-majority.

We can dedicate time and energy offering repeated examples of their filthy track record and/or soundbites, but -- in my view at least -- it's a futile exercise.
The pieces are already set. This is what has been laid out TO us. We don't need to accept it, of course. Fight the good fight.

But the value here, in my view, would be in observing and attempting to glean the potential gameplan in place so we can prepare accordingly for the amped up psycho-surreal circus performances to follow in the near/mid-term.


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[seemslikeadream]

yea but one does not vote actually for it

I lived through wire hangers and the only way that changed was through voting.....it is a long long long long road to freedom

if you are a white man it's hard to really understand slavery ....from the slave's point of view...... that is

how many of your friends/relatives died in the Vietnam War....how many of your relatives are suffering from Agent Orange today?

how many women do you know that died from an illegal abortion?

my memory is nudged very day because I live in RL reality

[Belligerent Savant]

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All good points -- no disputing your sentiment.

BUT: how will a vote in this coming National Election change any of that?

One can reply and say they'll be voting for Stein (If I vote, I'll be doing the same). The reality, however, is that such a vote will not affect change in this election.
MILLIONS are prepared to vote for either Hillary OR Trump -- a subset of which will vote for either candidate willingly and with fervor.
Whatever these millions of votes can't achieve, vote rigging/manipulation/(voter) disenfranchisement will correct accordingly.

Is that to say we just shrug our shoulders? Of course not.

My point is simple: we're well past the position that "voting" in a national election will do a fucking thing to affect change.

Localized change can happen. But national change..... will require a mass shift in zeitgeist mentality. We're not there yet. We have to "climax" first as a society/culture.

We're getting there, if the upswing in staged and/or genuine events over the last couple of years is to be referenced as a barometer. The momentum seems to be swinging towards a societal nadir/'singularity' event (or series of events) that may open a hole, or temporary pause, in our collective spacetime continuum, a moment in time where we may be positioned to arrange the chessboard in our favor...

Lofty as that sounds, the cynic in me says we'll invariably end up recycling the same patterns of power/greed among the few, fallible as the human condition is known to be.

There is hope for the human race, however. Eventually we'll circle back to Satya Yuga.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Yuga

[seemslikeadream]

BUT: how will a vote in this coming National Election change any of that?

it stays off Mussolini


one has to play the hand their dealt

it's always baby steps Bob

[tapitsbo]

I'm still holding out for the DIA guy. Pence is just another lizard

not that the DIA guy isn't, necessarily, but maybe a different species?

Flynn co-wrote a book with Ledeen. Perhaps we should celebrate his rejection by the Trump campaign, unappetizing as Pence surely may be.