Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
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conniption
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Testing...1..2..3...
I seem to be blocked from posting on the Ukraine thread.
On Edit: hmmmm, seems to work okay here.
Try try try again.
Edit #2: tried to post it here, but was blocked again.
So it goes...
Happy New Year.
I seem to be blocked from posting on the Ukraine thread.
On Edit: hmmmm, seems to work okay here.
Try try try again.
Edit #2: tried to post it here, but was blocked again.
So it goes...
Happy New Year.
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Which Ukraine thread? Can you post the link please?conniption » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:45 pm wrote:Testing...1..2..3...
I seem to be blocked from posting on the Ukraine thread.
On Edit: hmmmm, seems to work okay here.
Try try try again.
Edit #2: tried to post it here, but was blocked again.
So it goes...
Or wait, is it the content that is somehow blocked? An "illegal link" perhaps?
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Here, Jack. http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... &start=795
It was a reply to Jerky.
Edit: tried to send you the post via pm, Jack. Blocked again.
Thanks for your concern.
It was a reply to Jerky.
Edit: tried to send you the post via pm, Jack. Blocked again.
Edit 2: I'll try to repost in pieces to see which youtube video it doesn't like.General Error
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Thanks for your concern.
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
I don't know but what is the text or image that's being blocked? Can you describe it? Does it have code in it? Perhaps it's a link that you can show us in the format site-name DOT org?
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Oh Jesus h christ you have a character in you reply that is not accepted here.....that simple
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Sure, that's the answer. I'm just curious what it is.
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fixed it. thanks.
I was sure it was aliens..
I was sure it was aliens..
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Glad to hear you figured it out before our resident conspiracy guy got involved and started a thread about how fairies were running this place now again

Yours truly
And goodwill towards others
Yours truly
And goodwill towards others
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
Oh happy year ahead.
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Greetings. Long time no post. Just stopped by to drop off a holiday card of sorts and some annoying year end unsolicited advice treats.
Hope all is well with all and thought the year end chirpings of a previously frequent poster who is now gone silent and so is mostly agenda/rancor/faction free in regards to the current (albeit eternal return) r.i. sturm und drang might be timely.
Ultimately, and not surprisingly perhaps to most, but bears repeating: none of this matters but how you treat each other. Being able look at all of this with new eyes has helped me realize that the zealous quest for truth leaves too many casualties and since I imagine the great majority of you are doing this on your free time- you might want to consider why you are spending so much time, voluntarily role playing the roles of grand inquisitor, martyr, advocate for the defense, political prisoner, secret police, rabble rouser, etc. while engaging with such depressingly dark subject matter.
Personally, I found I was because I needed to create (recreate) an arena that provided the fear, stress, intrigue, paranoia, uncertainty, drama and mystery that I was already familiar with and assumed would at some point even more so be. Granted all boards suffer from communication issues but usually the topic matter is benign enough to off set that. Here, I found the zealously raving, railing, politicking, "debating" and analyzing about the daily dispatch of crypto-apocalyptic doom and gloom was (surprise!) not healthy for me.. So, just something to consider from a rigint ghost of xmas past about how you are spending your (and others) time here and the possible effects after.
Ok, time to go, the orderly is letting me know it's snack time (jello with whip!) and then monopoly in the game room after. I hope I get to be the top hat this time. And you get to be what you want this time.
Hope all is well with all and thought the year end chirpings of a previously frequent poster who is now gone silent and so is mostly agenda/rancor/faction free in regards to the current (albeit eternal return) r.i. sturm und drang might be timely.
Ultimately, and not surprisingly perhaps to most, but bears repeating: none of this matters but how you treat each other. Being able look at all of this with new eyes has helped me realize that the zealous quest for truth leaves too many casualties and since I imagine the great majority of you are doing this on your free time- you might want to consider why you are spending so much time, voluntarily role playing the roles of grand inquisitor, martyr, advocate for the defense, political prisoner, secret police, rabble rouser, etc. while engaging with such depressingly dark subject matter.
Personally, I found I was because I needed to create (recreate) an arena that provided the fear, stress, intrigue, paranoia, uncertainty, drama and mystery that I was already familiar with and assumed would at some point even more so be. Granted all boards suffer from communication issues but usually the topic matter is benign enough to off set that. Here, I found the zealously raving, railing, politicking, "debating" and analyzing about the daily dispatch of crypto-apocalyptic doom and gloom was (surprise!) not healthy for me.. So, just something to consider from a rigint ghost of xmas past about how you are spending your (and others) time here and the possible effects after.
Ok, time to go, the orderly is letting me know it's snack time (jello with whip!) and then monopoly in the game room after. I hope I get to be the top hat this time. And you get to be what you want this time.
If I knew all mysteries and all knowledge, and have not charity, I am nothing. St. Paul
I hang onto my prejudices, they are the testicles of my mind. Eric Hoffer
I hang onto my prejudices, they are the testicles of my mind. Eric Hoffer
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^^^ You've really been missed Brekin, witty as usual; it's good to hear from you, even if it's a brief advisory capacity.
It's human nature of course to connect in whatever form connecting takes and some are more conflict oriented than others, I guess. Nothing new here and everybody probably already knows, but I found snip from below a useful reminder (generally speaking; not related to 'dating', whatever that is)...
It's human nature of course to connect in whatever form connecting takes and some are more conflict oriented than others, I guess. Nothing new here and everybody probably already knows, but I found snip from below a useful reminder (generally speaking; not related to 'dating', whatever that is)...
(I hope I can stick with my 'plan' to, after typing a post, breathe and do something else to re-boot my brain before hitting the Submit button.)The Role of Perception in Online Relationships
What's Missing Online? Sensory Information and Body Language
So clearly most of our perceptual equipment cannot be utilized in our online relationships. Consequently, we miss out on huge chunks of information about other people that we would normally have. Various studies have been carried out to explore how much of our communication is verbal as opposed to non verbal. The percentage splits have been different, but what is not disputed is that non verbal communication is a very important aspect of communication and the development of human relationships.
The major disadvantage of online relationships and communication is that there is no body language to read. One study shows that 93% of communication is through non verbal means (including body language) and only 7% down to verbal communication. So online, we're stuck with having to try to do all of our communicating (both listening and speaking) with 7% of the tools we would normally use. This is a bit like trying to fix a car with only a hammer and one socket wrench! How effective can our online relationships really be with such a limited amount of tools at our disposal?
https://pairedlife.com/dating/online-relationships
The greatest sin is to be unconscious. ~ Carl Jung
We may not choose the parameters of our destiny. But we give it its content. ~ Dag Hammarskjold 'Waymarks'
We may not choose the parameters of our destiny. But we give it its content. ~ Dag Hammarskjold 'Waymarks'
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Re: Rhetoric and the art of Collaborative Discussion
I'm resuming my role as moderator, thanks for all the supportive comments. I quit only because I incorrectly assumed that Jeff had overruled me and reversed AD's suspension, but that turned out not to be what happened. It was probably the result of a software glitch.Elvis » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:40 am wrote:I am done being a moderator, effective immediately.
There's a tradition at hangings (maybe only in the movies) that if the rope breaks, you must let the condemned man go free. It's New Year's Day so I'm not doing any work today anyway.
Happy New Year
“The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.” ― Joan Robinson
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First: great to hear you're back on that captain's chair, Elvis.
A reprieve for the 'condemned man', then. It is a new year, after all. Perhaps it may lead to a measure of self-reflection and/or re-calibration, not only for AD: a few of us can benefit from a 'reset' of sorts. Let's aim to focus discussion on the issues out there (rather than whatever squabbles we may conjure up in here), and encourage, rather than dissuade, open and critical discourse among/between members.
(I give it about a week before someone triggers a return to pre-2019 shenanigans)
First: great to hear you're back on that captain's chair, Elvis.
A reprieve for the 'condemned man', then. It is a new year, after all. Perhaps it may lead to a measure of self-reflection and/or re-calibration, not only for AD: a few of us can benefit from a 'reset' of sorts. Let's aim to focus discussion on the issues out there (rather than whatever squabbles we may conjure up in here), and encourage, rather than dissuade, open and critical discourse among/between members.
(I give it about a week before someone triggers a return to pre-2019 shenanigans)
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Welcome back Elvis, this is fantastic news.
Maybe there’s hope after all for what I believe is a unique and valuable site.
Maybe there’s hope after all for what I believe is a unique and valuable site.
Elvis » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:08 pm wrote:I'm resuming my role as moderator, thanks for all the supportive comments. I quit only because I incorrectly assumed that Jeff had overruled me and reversed AD's suspension, but that turned out not to be what happened. It was probably the result of a software glitch.Elvis » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:40 am wrote:I am done being a moderator, effective immediately.
There's a tradition at hangings (maybe only in the movies) that if the rope breaks, you must let the condemned man go free. It's New Year's Day so I'm not doing any work today anyway.
Happy New Year
"When IT reigns, I’m poor.” Mario