Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[Grizzly]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qb0FGAjpksU1/
Dr. Jennifer Daniels & Dr. Andrew Kaufman: There Is No Deadly Virus | It's All a Numbers Game

Fuck youtube.

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[Belligerent Savant]

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Re: the above video --

https://www.acep.org/corona/COVID-19/co ... formation/

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation

The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.

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The video, initially broadcast on a local television station in California, went viral on youtube garnering over 4.3 million views…before YouTube took the video down, without explanation.

The two doctors, who own and run a clinic in Bakersfield, report that – according to their results – a higher than expected percentage of people are infected with the coronavirus, but that the vast majority show no symptoms. This is in line with other studies done at Stanford University and by Japanese scientists in China.

If true, the danger of the virus may have been greatly exaggerated by the media, and shelter in place orders/lockdown policies could – through poverty, suicide and stress – potentially cause more damage than they prevent.

Apart from the video being taken down, the American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) released a joint statement which accused them of attention-seeking to further their careers, but didn’t actually refute their arguments.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/29/wat ... y-youtube/

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As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

...and what does that imply about people who work for university research labs? The entire landscape of medical expertise is actors with "personal financial interests." And we're months into forming public policy on the basis of in-house model projections and pre-print research.

That's pretty hollow stuff, as a "debunking" goes.

[JackRiddler]

1. As of 29 April 2020, can ACEP or AAEM point me to any body of data or a medical or biological research work on any matter related to Covid-19 that qualifies as peer-reviewed?

2. How does the financial incentive suggested in this case work? ACEP and AAEM appear to be indicating a scenario in which the doctors' public statements and recommendations regarding lockdown policy might contribute to a situation in which they will, as owners of a testing center, benefit financially. But ACEP and AAEM do not specify how that will work. Can they clarify?

[liminalOyster]

Thsi is worth a glance:

Exclusive: Internal Memo Circulated by LA GOP’s Sharon Hewitt Outlines Effort to Undermine Emergency Covid-19 Orders
Memo advises GOP legislators to buck Trump White House guidelines and ignore the advice and recommendations of public health experts.



edit: I'm sleep deprived and thus loopy but somehow it's cracking me up that they felt they needed to expound on what "good" and "bad" words mean.....

[stickdog99]

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Re: the above video --

https://www.acep.org/corona/COVID-19/co ... formation/

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation

As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

Never trust a press release with a modifier this misplaced.

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i urge everyone who cares about health, healthcare, the most vulnerable, the elderly, saving lives or more generally anyone who wants to get depressed to read this: https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/29/lokin-20-the-lockdown-regime-causes-increasing-health-concerns/

[annie aronburg]

here at my end of the Gangster's Paradise that is Britain's Columbia, they are re-opening the golf courses so that the wine country executive alcoholics don't beat their wives to death in lockdown. Not gonna let the poors access the provincial or national parks though. Those are someone else's property.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/o ... r-BB133uLx

[Elvis]

(From another thread)

Institut Pasteur

Coronavirus outbreak in France did not come directly from China, gene-tracing scientists say
Researchers conclude that the virus was circulating undetected in France in February

I'm thinking I may have caught the virus in February; a friend's wife had returned from an international conference where she'd met, worked and shook hands with people from all over the world. When she returned home to the US, she immediately became ill. My friend caught it from her, then he came to visit me, and within two days I was very sick too, for ten days or so (as I've mentioned earlier somewhere here).

Of course no way to know without an antibody test?

Going to a pawn shop today to look at their music stuff (got my 1200!!).

[Elvis]

Long article by Vanessa Beeley, with charts & data etc. (I haven't read it all):

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-co ... 9-part-one


Who controls the British Government response to Covid–19?
Part One

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By the same token, a good piece on the US government response:

https://neftimiades.wordpress.com/2020/ ... -covid-19/

Donald Trump just told reporters in press conference he's seen evidence to indicate SARS2 came from a lab in Wuhan but cannot disclose that information yet.

Both of his bases are going to go completely apeshit for the next 24 hours.

[undead]

This looks a lot like a social credit system for the USA, doesn't it?

Former NYC Mayor Bloomberg is developing mobile apps to help New York state trace coronavirus cases

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is developing three smartphone apps to help New York state trace every person who comes into contact with someone infected with Covid-19 to help control the spread of the virus.

Contact tracing requires scores of people to interview coronavirus patients and track down all of their contacts over the past 14 days so those people can be notified, tested and quarantined.

The team, led by Bloomberg, is partnering with the health-care nonprofit Vital Strategies to develop the three new smartphone apps. The first app will help the contact tracers find information and data quickly, the second will allow the public to send data directly to local health departments and the third will provide guidance to people in quarantine and allow them to report any symptoms, Bloomberg said.

“When social distancing is relaxed, contact tracing is our best hope for isolating the virus when it appears and keeping it isolated,” Bloomberg said during Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s press conference.

He added that Vital Strategies is working with the state to develop a “comprehensive playbook” that outlines for contact tracers how to do the job effectively.

The team has hired a staffing company to build a “small army of New Yorkers” to conduct the contact tracing and has teamed up with the City University of New York and the State University of New York to identify applicants, Bloomberg said.

Johns Hopkins University has developed a remote training class for tracers, Bloomberg said, adding that it will cover the basics of epidemics, contact tracing and privacy. He said applicants must pass a test at the end of the class to be hired.

Cuomo said on Tuesday that the state would need to hire thousands of contact tracers to help mitigate the spread of Covid-19 and allow officials to ease strict social distancing guidelines. He said the state would need at least 30 contact tracers per 100,000 people.

The state also needs to broaden access to testing, which will be prioritized for people who are symptomatic, people who came into contact with a symptomatic person and frequent tests of frontline, essential workers, he said. Officials are working toward constructing enough testing sites across the state.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said the city is currently working to hire 1,000 contact tracers with health-care backgrounds.

“Contact tracing, the test and trace approach, is going to change everything,” de Blasio said at the governor’s press conference Thursday. “I think we are going to be able to show this country a model that’s going to be extraordinarily effective in beating back this disease.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/former- ... cases.html

[stickdog99]

Just tell us everything about everything and we just might let some of you leave your houses to go to your jobs!

Who is scarier? The guy who tells you to feel free to risk your health and others' health or the guy who demands to know everything about you at all times so he can tell you whether you are or are not allowed to leave your house in order to "save lives"?

[Grizzly]

In 2015, American researchers and Chinese Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers collaborated to transform an animal coronavirus into one that can attack humans. Scientists from prestigious American universities and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) worked directly with the two coauthor researchers from Wuhan Institute of Virology, Xing-Yi Ge and Zhengli-Li Shi. Funding was provided by the Chinese and US governments. The team succeeded in modifying a bat coronavirus to make it capable of infecting humans.

The research was published in December 2015 in the prestigious British journal, Nature Medicine (volume 21, pages1508–1513). The paper by Vineet D. Menachery et al., “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence” is available here

https://breggin.com/us-chinese-scientis ... ronavirus/


But they’ll game us and squeeze us for all they can; push the Saber-rattling to the brink of madness knowing full well, BOTH America and China are at fault, so both sides get to play their subsequent populations like fiddles.

WELCOME to what American sociologist Erving Goffman coined as a 'total institution'. A total institution is a place where a group of people is cut off from the wider community and their needs are under complete bureaucratic or social control. Goffman establishes key points and terms that should become apparent, especially after the break away from the traditional norms, and the deep impact of the re-socialization aspect of the "new normal".

Key Points

Resocialization is defined as radically changing an inmate’s personality by carefully controlling his or her environment.
Resocialization is a two-part process. First, the staff of the institution tries to erode the residents’ identities and independence. Second, the resocialization process involves the systematic attempt to build a different personality or self.


Resocialization: Resocialization is defined as radically changing an inmate’s personality by carefully controlling the environment.
Erving Goffman: Erving Goffman (June 11, 1922 – November 19, 1982) was a Canadian-born sociologist and writer. The 73rd president of American Sociological Association, Goffman’s greatest contribution to social theory was his study of symbolic interaction in the form of dramaturgical analysis. This began with his 1959 book, The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life.
total institution: It is an institution that controls almost all aspects of its members’ lives. Boarding schools, orphanages, military branches, juvenile detention, and prisons are examples of total institutions.

Goffman divided total institutions into five different types:

Institutions established to care for harmless or incapable people, including orphanages, poor houses and nursing homes
Institutions established to care for people that are incapable of looking after themselves and are also a threat to the community, including leprosarium, mental hospitals, and tuberculosis sanitariums
Institutions organized to protect the community against perceived intentional dangers, with the welfare of the sequestered people not the immediate issue, including concentration camps, prisoner of war camps, penitentiaries and jails
Institutions purportedly established to pursue some task, including colonial compounds, work camps, boarding schools, and ships
Institutions designed as retreats from the world while also often serving as training stations for the religious, including convents, abbeys, and monasteries

The goal of total institutions is resocialization, the radical alteration of residents’ personalities by deliberately manipulating their environment. Key examples include the process of resocializing new recruits into the military so that they can operate as soldiers. Resocialization is a two-part process. First, the staff of the institution tries to erode the residents’ identities and independence. Second, resocialization involves the systematic attempt to build a different personality or self. This is generally done through a system of reward and punishment. The privilege of reading a book, watching television, or making a phone call can be a powerful motivator to conform. Conformity occurs when individuals change their behavior to fit in with the expectations of an authority figure or the expectations of a larger group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_institution

Etymology

The term is sometimes credited as having been coined and defined by Canadian sociologist Erving Goffman in his paper "On the Characteristics of Total Institutions", presented in April 1957 at the Walter Reed Institute's Symposium on Preventive and Social Psychiatry.[4]:1 An expanded version appeared in Donald Cressey's collection, The Prison,[5] and was reprinted in Goffman's 1961 collection, Asylums.[1][3][4]:1 Fine and Manning, however, note that Goffman heard the term in lectures by Everett Hughes (likely during the late-1940s seminar, "Work and Occupations").[6] Regardless of whether Goffman coined the term, he can be credited with popularizing it.[7]
A total institution is a place of work and residence where a great number of similarly situated people, cut off from the wider community for a considerable time, together lead an enclosed, formally administered round of life.[1]:44[2]:855[3]

Typology

Total institutions are divided by Goffman into five different types:[3][8]

institutions established to care for people felt to be both harmless and incapable: orphanages, poor houses and nursing homes.
places established to care for people felt to be incapable of looking after themselves and a threat to the community, albeit an unintended one: leprosariums, mental hospitals, and tuberculosis sanitariums.
institutions organised to protect the community against what are felt to be intentional dangers to it, with the welfare of the people thus sequestered not the immediate issue: concentration camps, P.O.W. camps, penitentiaries, and jails.
institutions purportedly established to better pursue some worklike tasks and justifying themselves only on these instrumental grounds: colonial compounds, work camps, boarding schools, ships, army barracks, and large mansions from the point of view of those who live in the servants' quarters.
establishments designed as retreats from the world even while often serving also as training stations for the religious; examples are convents, abbeys, monasteries, and other cloisters.

David Rothman states that "historians have confirmed the validity of Goffman's concept of 'total institutions' which minimizes the differences in formal mission to establish a unity of design and structure."[9]:xxix[10]:101

In Discipline and Punish, Michel Foucault discussed total institutions in the language of complete and austere institutions.[11]:231

]Nursing homes

According to S. Lammers and A. Verhey, some 80 percent of Americans will ultimately die not in their home, but in a total institution.[2]:853

In recent decade the nursing home industry has quickly extended, and particular regions of the country have become huge territorial nursing homes where we hide the aged and they hide from us.[2]:853 Long before their death, they are buried in the folds of the total institution, hidden, out of sight and out of mind.[2]:853 In the United States, dying in a total institution has become a common experience.[12]:495

Tourism

Sociologists have pointed out that tourist venues such as cruise ships are acquiring many of the characteristics of total institutions. Tourists may not be aware that they are being controlled, even constrained, but the environment has been designed to subtly manipulate the behavior of patrons. These examples differ from the traditional examples in that the influence is short term.[13][14]:106
See also

Concentration camp
Disciplinary institution
Mental asylum
Psych ward
Workhouse
Psychiatric institution
Erving Goffman
Totalitarianism
Transinstitutionalisation

We are being herding into the 'mental plantation'. It's methodical, systemic, and god-damned clinical what they are doing.