Johnny Gosch update

Rigorous Intuition · Post by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:11 pm

Just posted <a href="http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-are-they-doing-this.html">here</a>.  DES MOINES, Iowa - The mother of a boy abducted 24 years ago said she is bewildered by two photographs left at her front door, apparently showing her son and two other children bound and gagged. The old photos appear to show 12-year-old Johnny Gosch with his mouth gagged and his hands and feet tied. The boy is wearing the same sweatpants Johnny was wearing when he disappeared while delivering newspapers on the morning of Sept. 5, 1982, his mother said. "It's like reliving it," Noreen Gosch told The Associated Press on Thursday night. "But the bigger picture is, 'Why are they doing this?'

Sarutama · Post by **Sarutama** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:24 pm

I just read that. Wow. Seems like the Ramsey show got cancelled early, so they are bringing back another old favorite.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:37 pm

I'm not sure what the angle is here. Did a concerned person in the know drop those photos, capitalizing on the recent arrests of the Israeli and the pResidential consultant in order to send a message, or is this some kind of distraction? What other angles could there be? Anyone? I find it hard to believe that two barely seen blips on the media radar are being used as a distraction by the PTB-blips that can be used to locate them. As for JMK debacle, I'm convinced that was the result of a hopelessly naive and incompetent DA trying her best to exonerate the Ramsey's; a move I am now certain was wholly unwelcomed by both John Ramsey and a host of other perps, who would rather the terms "pedophile ring" and "satanic ritual abuse" never be uttered in public.

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:39 pm

I wonder if the other kids are identifiable..

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:43 pm

Ah. The first comment at the blog- <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Anonymous said... Blackmailers are tweeking at the strings of politicians. They want something--a war, a nuke on Iran--more concessions to poisoning every living being etc etc--so they are giving the ropes a little jerk. Ya better come through for us or YOU'RE NEXT...<hr></blockquote> Sounds about right for the two perps who were arrested, but does not fully explain the photos.

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:51 pm

All this--Gosch, JBR--and there was a special on last night about the little Russian girl, now 13, who was adopted by a pedophile who sexually abused her and made her pose for porn that was sent all over the internet for years. Maybe they're getting ready to do a push for the right to snoop on the internet without limits.

FourthBase · Post by **FourthBase** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:50 pm

Holy fucking shit.

Rigorous Intuition · Post by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:33 pm

One of the pictures has been posted by WPXI <a href="http://www.wpxi.com/2006/0901/9778099_480X360.jpg">here</a>. (Caution, disturbing image.) I've had the other emailed to me, with the request that I not post it now. It shows a branded "X" on Gosch's upper arm, which I think Bonacci testified to.

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:34 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Maybe they're getting ready to do a push for the right to snoop on the internet without limits<hr></blockquote>. Whatever is going on is MUCH deeper than that. Gosch has become a symbol for the few paying attention. ESPECIALLY if Bonnaci was telling the truth and was involved in the kidnapping, this goes very, very high. Given to his mother for the drama, I imagine. Released at all to say, "we can do whatever we want and even take pictures." Another theory, however, could be a whistleblower...after all, maybe the other two boys can be identified. Unfortunately, the FBI doesn't keep (despite the law) very good records on child disappearances (though they are pretty good on car thefts) but maybe those will be two boys who actually made it into the system. If so, it might provide a real break.

FourthBase · Post by **FourthBase** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:38 pm

I would tend to believe that this is the work of a whistleblower. But you never know. I just wonder if this will provide any leads. It certainly backs up Bonacci. Which I can't imagine being good for the perps. Just a stunning development. Unbelievable.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:45 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The boy is wearing the same sweatpants Johnny was wearing when he disappeared<hr></blockquote> Wait. Not doubting the importance or the veracity of the story, but all the boys are wearing jeans, unless I'm losing my eyesight. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o">

chiggerbit · Post by **chiggerbit** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:47 pm

The boy is wearing the same sweatpants Johnny was wearing when he disappeared while delivering newspapers on the morning of Sept. 5, 1982, his mother said. Must be the other picture, because these three are wearing jeans, it looks like. On edit: Nevermind, sunny already said it. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/1/06 6:55 pm

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:48 pm

The other two boys should be easily identifiable. I hate to say it, but they are white...their abductions likely "counted" and therefore identifying information should come out soon. I would love a link to the Bonnaci testimony that Gosch was "branded". I don't remember it. Franklin Case Admin is probably busy...he hasn't put this on his site yet. Somewhere on the net is the full testimony of Bonacci in his lawsuit against King. I thought I'd saved the link but now I can't find it.

Rigorous Intuition · Post by **Rigorous Intuition** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:51 pm

Wait. Not doubting the importance or the veracity of the story, but all the boys are wearing jeans, unless I'm losing my eyesight. I just took a look again at the second photo which I don't think has been published yet. It shows Gosch shirtless in what appears to be black sweatpants.

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:54 pm

One thing that has me a little disturbed is that a few months ago a man in a white van was observed on a few occasions photographing children in this area and approached a couple of girls. Since Bonnaci said it was standard procedure to photograph before a kidnapping, I got nervous but luckily nothing else happened.

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