solace » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:01 pm wrote:Seems to me that the only way to defend Counterpunch is to prove that regular antisemitism and support for people such as Shamir, Zundel, Atzmon etc (all of whom support for is verboten by RI rules) is NOT vile. I have slad and searcher on ignore so I can't see if their posts have done that. Would be a neat trick if they or anyone else did. Not holding my breath. Likely all you'll get is attacked; no real substance to refute the charge.
Rigorous, and intuitive.
To what do you attribute your ability to see so deeply into things?
The title of the OP is beneath stupidity.....grey area...where's the grey area there Why is Counterpunch vile?....it's not why is Counterpunch vile that needs debating ..it's why would anyone post such a ridicules OP.... it's a joke...who debates a joke
To what do you attribute your ability to see deeply into things?
LULZ
From AD's "50 Variations on a Theme of "Are You Still Beating Your Wife?"
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:30 am
by seemslikeadream
Dave Lindorff.....Robert Fisk....Uri Avnery....Joe Bageant....Bob Fitrakis...... Harvey Wasserman.....Pam Martens.....David Swanson....Chris Floyd ......Jonathan Cook .....Andy Worthington.. Russ Fine.... Gary Leupp....SEN. Russell Feingold...Medea Benjamin.....VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY
these people are not vile people...get over it ...it's a stupid OP
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:39 am
by Searcher08
Sounder » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:40 pm wrote:Living with split psyches makes collaboration and reconciliation quite a challenge. Both ‘sides’ have shortcomings because they (collectively) tend to see one half of reality as being the whole of reality. Still my greater fear is the continuation of this debt based monetary system. With this system the general population has no control over their own lives.
When exposing myself to worldly verbiage, the first thing that will shut me down is advocacy for war and killing. George Soros says the EU needs to pony up and confront the wanna-be Russian Empire. So does AD, but not through cogent argument of his own words, no that would be too much trouble when there is such a wealth of material available.
I’m also not too keen on the use of negative associations to absolve oneself from considering possible substance in the ‘opponents’ arguments or position.
The killing of nuance is offensive.
AD, you talk about nuance with no examples thereof, and that is an empty form and the antithesis of nuance.
I find it very mechanical, one-directional and exceptionalist.
There is actually very little direct dialogue - it is all mediated through Copy Pasta, much of which seems to relate to very old events, and which is generally provided without any form of context or framing.
The one-directionalism in this case means -
"One set of rules for you, another set for me"
a policy which is apparent in relation to Soros shills, which are posted in their multiple dozens without stating why they are perceived as important, what their provenance is, how this viewpoint was arrived at etc and for whom these issues are smoked over, derailed, etc etc.
People and organisations on the AD shit list are connected to each other as much as possible, while AD pointedly ignores actual real world funding / governance connections of his own execrable fascist-friendly sources.
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:43 am
by seemslikeadream
when he is losing an argument AD changes the subject.....Ukraine anyone??? anyone???? U.S. support for fascist in Ukraine.... anyone???
these are all VILE people AD?
Dave Lindorff.....Robert Fisk....Uri Avnery....Joe Bageant....Bob Fitrakis...... Harvey Wasserman.....Pam Martens.....David Swanson....Chris Floyd ......Jonathan Cook .....Andy Worthington.. Russ Fine.... Gary Leupp....SEN. Russell Feingold...Medea Benjamin.....VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:51 am
by American Dream
I do sometimes share Counterpunch articles, although quite hesitantly, because all the articles from there- most especially Palestine/Israel articles- are discredited through association with thoroughly loathsome characters such as Israel Shamir, Gilad Atzmon, Ernst Zündel, as well as the thoroughly loathsome ideas described previously on this thread.
I wish we were all in basic agreement on such things here, but sadly, we are not.
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:54 am
by seemslikeadream
there you go again...you've been told OVER AND OVER AGAIN not to mention that name but you just can't help yourself can you AD?
these are all VILE people AD?
Dave Lindorff.....Robert Fisk....Uri Avnery....Joe Bageant....Bob Fitrakis...... Harvey Wasserman.....Pam Martens.....David Swanson....Chris Floyd ......Jonathan Cook .....Andy Worthington..... Gary Leupp....SEN. Russell Feingold...Medea Benjamin.....VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY
CounterPunch is NOT VILE...this is a stupid OP
one idiot calls CounterPunch vile on the internet and AD runs with it
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:59 am
by American Dream
Jeff's rule, as cited by WR here, concerns advocacy for Gilad Atzmon. You saw that here recently.
Is it that you can't imagine speaking critically about Atzmon?
Isn't he saying similar things to Shamir and Zündel, too?
Re: Why is Counterpunch vile?
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:01 am
by seemslikeadream
We are not supposed to mention his name here quit breaking the rules or continue breaking the rules your choice
now I am going to take my dog for a walk
thanks for all the laughs ...you're so entertaining sometimes
Is it that you can't imagine speaking critically about Atzmon?
Isn't he saying similar things to Shamir and Zündel, too?
There were MANY posters who defended Atzmon last time out. That's because they believe the same VILE, SICK, TWISTED Shit he does. It's why they support him and the VILE Counterpunch. They'll never change. Hate never does.
