Slouching Toward Kristallnacht

dugoboy · Post by **dugoboy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:48 pm

just read the whole thing: <a href="http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4728">www.myleftwing.com/showDi...aryId=4728</a> a taste: "Nazism gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about - we were decent people - and kept us so busy with continuous changes and "crises" and so fascinated, yes, fascinated, by the machinations of the "national enemies", without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us." and "Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for the one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don't want to act, or even to talk, alone; you don't want to "go out of your way to make trouble." Why not? - Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty." i'm off for a week vacation. bye all. good luck. ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George OrwellEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/17/06 3:49 pm

Dreams End · Post by **Dreams End** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:53 pm

This all comes from the same book, Milton Mayer's They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933 - 1945 which I highly recommend. Thanks for the post. Good blog.

dugoboy · Post by **dugoboy** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:56 pm

1945 - 1933 = 12 years 1933 - reichstag fire 12 years. 2001 - 9/11. 2012. ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George OrwellEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/17/06 4:01 pm

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:30 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>2012<hr></blockquote> ouch. Enjoy your break, man.

existentialist · Post by **existentialist** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:53 pm

isn't 2001 + 12 = 2013? Or am I being stupid?

bvonahsen · Post by **bvonahsen** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:04 pm

existentialist: Depends on how you count it. Is 2001 the first or the second year of the new millenium? Back to Nazis I seem to remember a quote, don't know by whom, that went "We should have known by the trail of slime they left behind." And if you read Bertand Russel's history of the west he claims that the holocost was made possible by hundreds of years of anti-semetic hate spewed from the pulpits of europe. Priests would even lead their congregants on murderous campains to burn down local synogoges. The pulpit was essentially the media information hub of the day. It was their mass media. Think about that and then think about radio today and what it is preparing people for. People wonder why our society is so coarse these days. They have only to look to right wing hate radio to find the answer.

slimmouse · Post by **slimmouse** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:09 pm

French Empire, British Empire, German Empire, American Empire. That only covers less than 250 years. And of course, that is merely on the face of things. I guess the temple of the lord is truly within. Take that to mean what you will.

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:11 pm

God is in his Holy Tem-pulll... <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~mlpaul/polt/kane4.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

slimmouse · Post by **slimmouse** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:15 pm

Assuming ( As I now do ) that for "God" we must read infinite consciousness.....that of which we are all therefore made.....I guess that embraces the naughty ones too. If you wish to see the father, then look within. I believe that is a quote from a famous gnostic <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

NewKid · Post by **NewKid** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:31 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>God is in his Holy Tem-pulll...<hr></blockquote> Outstanding. Not too many Poltergeist 2 fans in my parts. That guy is a nominee for creepiest individual of all time (but wasn't he too taken down by the Poltergeist "curse" . . .).

jingofever · Post by **jingofever** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:50 pm

You might be interested in this book: "War and Peace and War: The Life Cycles of Imperial Nations" by Peter Turchin. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131499963/sr=1-1/qid=1150653102/ref=sr_1_1/102-1155108-3744903?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books">www.amazon.com/gp/product...F8&s=books</a> A review from Publishers Weekly on Amazon.com: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Ranging freely from the founding of Rome to 17th-century North America, this provocative essay in "cliodynamics" ("the study of processes that change with time") searches for scientific regularities that underlie history. Ecologist and mathematician Turchin grounds his theory of preindustrial empires in the Arabic concept of asabiya, meaning a society's capacity for collective action. Empires germinate, he contends, along "meta-ethnic frontiers" where conflict between starkly alien peoples—Roman farmers vs. Celtic tribesmen in the fifth and sixth centuries B.C., say—fosters the social solidarity and discipline that empire building requires. Success, he continues, leads inexorably to decline: stability and prosperity produce overpopulation and a Malthusian crisis in which the struggle for scarce resources undermines social solidarity and triggers imperial collapse. Turchin's straining for scientific exactitude occasionally overreaches, yielding a proliferation of historical "cycles" of fuzzy periodicity, riddled with fudge factors like "mathematical chaos." Still, Turchin's focus on social cooperation as the key to history is a fruitful one, and his ideas generate many fascinating discussions of a wide variety of historical episodes, rendered in lucid, vigorous prose. The result, much in the vein of Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel, is a stimulating revisionist overview of world history. Maps. (Oct.)<hr></blockquote> I have not picked it up yet but hear it is good. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jingofever>jingofever</A> at: 6/18/06 12:52 pm

Et in Arcadia ego · Post by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:06 pm

The Lucifer Principle described it in idiot-proof terms: Tennis Time and Beach Time. Simply put, cultures/societies on the rise operate on an aggressive Tennis Time while cultures/societies that achieved a certain threshold of dominance slide into an apathetic Beach Time. Success itself in a society appears to be a large determining factor of it's own inevitable collapse.

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Taking "God" as infinite consciousness....

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