No Country for Old Men

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:07 pm

I watched the new Coen brothers film last night, No Country for Old Men.

To me it seemed like a commentary on the secular world's victory and the nightmare that follows when man no longer fears God.

any thoughts?

nomo · Post by **nomo** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:17 pm

any thoughts?

Yeah, bullsh!t.

It was just an entertaining little movie about a stash of money and a crazed killer. "God" had nothing to do with it.

theeKultleeder · Post by **theeKultleeder** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:22 pm

"The secular world's victory" is code-language (Christian brainwash) for "things we don't like."

nomo · Post by **nomo** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:33 pm

Hah! Not to mention that "commentary on the secular world's victory and the nightmare that follows when man no longer fears God" says just about nothing and could be applied to pretty much every work of art that doesn't mention "God". So yeah, thanks for a brilliant "review."

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:21 pm

theeKultleeder wrote:"The secular world's victory" is code-language (Christian brainwash) for "things we don't like."

I am not a Christian and God doesn't belong to Christianity.

IanEye · Post by **IanEye** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:23 pm

To me it seemed like a commentary on the secular world's victory and the nightmare that follows when man no longer fears God.

Have you read the book?

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:26 pm

nomo wrote:Hah! Not to mention that "commentary on the secular world's victory and the nightmare that follows when man no longer fears God" says just about nothing and could be applied to pretty much every work of art that doesn't mention "God". So yeah, thanks for a brilliant "review."

You obviously have not watched the movie. Tommy Lee's character has the last lines of the movie and he talks about having a dream about his father when they were out on the range together and how he would go out ahead into the darkness to set up camp, and when he reached camp his father was always there. He was talking about Heaven and being reunited with his father. Tommy's character is at a lost and in his words "overmatched' by the psycho killer in the movie, who seems less like a man and is described as a "ghost" by one of the main characters.

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:27 pm

IanEye wrote:
To me it seemed like a commentary on the secular world's victory and the nightmare that follows when man no longer fears God.
Have you read the book?

no I haven't, but I'd like to.

sunny · Post by **sunny** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:38 pm

I think the movie, which is very faithful to the book, is saying that this modern world has become brutal, and is devoid of honor, decency, and goodness and is no place for old men who cherish and live by these values. They are "overmatched" in a world with no rules.

Simplicity itself.

nomo · Post by **nomo** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:39 pm

overcoming hope wrote:You obviously have not watched the movie.

Dude, I have watched the movie, and your hairbrained analysis sucks the fun right out of it.

I thought the movie was about coins.

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:58 pm

nomo wrote:
overcoming hope wrote:You obviously have not watched the movie.
Dude, I have watched the movie, and your hairbrained analysis sucks the fun right out of it.

I thought the movie was about coins.

coins victory over Destiny?

overcoming hope · Post by **overcoming hope** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:00 pm

nomo wrote:
overcoming hope wrote:You obviously have not watched the movie.
Dude, I have watched the movie, and your hairbrained analysis sucks the fun right out of it.

you thought that movie was fun?

theeKultleeder · Post by **theeKultleeder** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:09 pm

sunny wrote:I think the movie, which is very faithful to the book, is saying that this modern world has become brutal, and is devoid of honor, decency, and goodness and is no place for old men who cherish and live by these values. They are "overmatched" in a world with no rules.

Simplicity itself.

Okay. How does that have anything to do with o-hope's "secularism" analysis?

Like, sunny, please point me to a Golden Age in history that was not "brutal, and... devoid of honor, decency, and goodness and is no place for old men."

The Dark Ages? The Middle Ages? The era of militant Muslim expansion and subjugation? Cave-man times?

We are still growing as a human species. The mythological Golden Age never was. It has always been in the future. Now days, we call it "utopianism."

theeKultleeder · Post by **theeKultleeder** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:10 pm

overcoming hope wrote:
theeKultleeder wrote:"The secular world's victory" is code-language (Christian brainwash) for "things we don't like."
I am not a Christian and God doesn't belong to Christianity.

Sorry, but I never said you were.

And my interpretation of the phrase "secular world" still holds true.

nomo · Post by **nomo** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:23 pm

overcoming hope wrote:you thought that movie was fun?

It was okay. It's a movie. It's supposed to be entertaining. It worked for me.

Can't wait to see Sweeney Todd. It's gonna be terrific.

(A movie about proper male grooming practices, BTW)